Video: Donovan Wilson, we see you, young man

mmohican29

Well-Known Member
Messages
7,171
Reaction score
6,045
Want to say Wilson screwed up pretty bad in coverage too bomb to Thielen. I know he's not great at coverage.

No he had his assignment correct. He was protecting the middle post vs the flag route from the opposite receiver.

Problem on that play was our DL got zero pressure on a 7 step drop by Cousins so the play was fully developed. Brown got beat but he had coverage 90% of the play.

The Vikings get paid too- good throw, good route, good catch.
 

blueblood70

Well-Known Member
Messages
38,218
Reaction score
26,816
Think it was LVE who broke Cooks helmet tho
ok cool no problem Kudos to LVE..all of them werent perfect but the last 3 games the hustle, effort, and gang tackling has much improved since letting Poe, Griffen and others walk..nice to see a team not quit when they had every reason too..
 

quickccc

Well-Known Member
Messages
16,062
Reaction score
13,979
He created a turnover.

he's created two turnovers this year with hit- strip-fumbles on QBs (ala wentz)

Diggs and Wilson are the obvious ones when it comes up being capable for turnovers.
Once we change and upgrade our DB coaches (which is the rumor in media sense)
and further upgrade the DB personnel - and exit Awuzie, Xavier, Lewis
i think we could have a chance for more turnovers.

Wilson is also making hi physical presence felt. Lucky to get away with a helmet to helmet hit though.
Shouldve been the starter at beginning.. instead of Darian Thompson.
 

texbumthelife

Well-Known Member
Messages
22,610
Reaction score
23,086
He was laying the wood all day!! Well, at least the first half.

He laid several nasty hits in the second as well, including the one that took Theilen out for a couple of plays. This guy is a natural strong safety. Now we just need someone with range to play (and STAY) over the top.
 

jay94

Well-Known Member
Messages
2,144
Reaction score
1,347
Are you sure it was his fault?


Obviously not all his fault, but he decided to take an underneath crossing route that put him on the other side of the field, you can blame the cb the most, which I want to say was Brown. Your right though I don't know what his job intended for the play call, just an assumption. Thielen should of been a bigger deal to this defense, hell he almost had a catch for every target.
 

john van brocklin

Captain Comeback
Messages
38,188
Reaction score
42,948
DWil-2xx.gif


Refs didn't see nuthin' here, lol.

DWil-1xx.gif
Lol, got away with the helmet to helmet
 

ondaedg

Well-Known Member
Messages
2,891
Reaction score
3,034
We need athletic, physical and opportunistic guys like Wilson. These are the types of guys who make the plays that change the games.
 

MarcusRock

Well-Known Member
Messages
13,840
Reaction score
16,028
Cousins lowered his head as he spun because he started to crouch and there was nothing Donovan could do.
I thought so too but Cousins lowered and turned into him and the refs may have noticed that.

Where are y'all seeing that Cousins lowered his head and or crouched? It was Wilson who lowered his head as he went in. Cousins had been spun around and was going down but his head never drops here. Sorry, but when a guy goes in spearing like that it's an automatic foul. You know good and well that if the teams were reversed none of you would be wanting to hear about how Dalton was crouching down with a defender leading in with his head lowered. Let's be fair here. We got away with one. And it led to 6 for us which was the difference in the game. The other way around it would be a CONSPIRACY! designed to make us lose.


DWil-1xx.gif
 

SportsGuru80

CowboysYanksLakers
Messages
8,625
Reaction score
4,498
Wilson is on the right track, they need to find him a true ballhawk running mate like Simmons from Denver (I hope Dallas targets him in free agency)... Wilson is a true strong safety who adds that physicality to the secondary. Was that TD given up to Jefferson partly on him, I know Brown had primary coverage?
 

SportsGuru80

CowboysYanksLakers
Messages
8,625
Reaction score
4,498
Wilson is a S the Cowboys loved all along. It's taken a couple of years as expected but he is slowly making an impact. Can't wait to see him next September. Could be a pretty good player. That being said, I'm still wanting the Cowboys to draft a S in the 2nd or 3rd round and another one late.

Or sign a guy like Simmons from Denver...
 

G2

Taco Engineer
Messages
24,426
Reaction score
26,192
Wilson was a 6th round pick and is only a year and a half into his rookie contract. If he keeps playing like he is and improves year to year, we have half of our safety issue locked up. It made a huge step forward from last season. We need a ball hawk FS back there and we could have a very solid tandem. I hope this kid keeps playing hard. It reminds me of other hard-hitting safeties were eventually, WRs became shy crossing the middle. Re-watch the Vikings game. Wilson had half a dozen real solid hits.
 

RonnieT24

Well-Known Member
Messages
13,498
Reaction score
21,564
I was surprised Wilson didn't get more playing time last year after watching him in preseason. The ball kept finding him in those preseason games too. I don't know what the coaches were seeing in Thompson to believe he deserved to be starting over Wilson but it's clear now that they were dead wrong. I'm hearing he was exactly the same way at TAMU.. always around the ball, creating turnovers and laying the wood to fools. He will probably never be great in coverage but with experience should become at least serviceable. Get us a 4.3 ball hawk to play free safety and that part of the defense will be set.. Is Jeff Heath available?
 

RonnieT24

Well-Known Member
Messages
13,498
Reaction score
21,564
Where are y'all seeing that Cousins lowered his head and or crouched? It was Wilson who lowered his head as he went in. Cousins had been spun around and was going down but his head never drops here. Sorry, but when a guy goes in spearing like that it's an automatic foul. You know good and well that if the teams were reversed none of you would be wanting to hear about how Dalton was crouching down with a defender leading in with his head lowered. Let's be fair here. We got away with one. And it led to 6 for us which was the difference in the game. The other way around it would be a CONSPIRACY! designed to make us lose.


DWil-1xx.gif

I think the refs might have given Wilson a pass on this hit because he DID try to go lower but Cousins was also being tackled by Lawrence so he was going down as well. If not for that Cousins would have stayed up and the hit would have been square in the chest.
 

MarcusRock

Well-Known Member
Messages
13,840
Reaction score
16,028
I think the refs might have given Wilson a pass on this hit because he DID try to go lower but Cousins was also being tackled by Lawrence so he was going down as well. If not for that Cousins would have stayed up and the hit would have been square in the chest.

Wrong. There's no exemption for already being tackled. There ARE actually rules for lowering your head to contact someone who is already in another's grasp and had their forward progress stopped as Cousins' was here. There's actually 3 different rules this could fall under as a foul. I'll post 2 and there's also the obvious roughing the passer. Pertinent parts are in red. They all say you can't lower your head and make forcible contact to the head an neck area. That's exactly what Wilson did here. There's no way around it. Officials blew it and we benefited with 6 points that was the difference in the game.

ARTICLE 9. PLAYERS IN A DEFENSELESS POSTURE. It is a foul if a player initiates unnecessary contact against a player
who is in a defenseless posture.
(a) Players in a defenseless posture are:

(1) A player in the act of or just after throwing a pass (passing posture).
(2) A receiver running a pass route when the defender approaches from the side or behind. If the receiver becomes a blocker
or assumes a blocking posture, he is no longer a defenseless player.
(3) A receiver attempting to catch a pass who has not had time to clearly become a runner. If the player is capable of avoiding
or warding off the impending contact of an opponent, he is no longer a defenseless player.
(4) The intended receiver of a pass in the action during and immediately following an interception or potential interception. If
the player is capable of avoiding or warding off the impending contact of an opponent, he is no longer a defenseless
player.
Note: Violations of this provision will be enforced after the interception, and the intercepting team will maintain
possession.
(5) A runner already in the grasp of a tackler and whose forward progress has been stopped.

(6) A kickoff or punt returner attempting to field a kick in the air who has not had time to clearly become a runner. If the player
is capable of avoiding or warding off the impending contact of an opponent, he is no longer a defenseless player (for enforcement, see 10-1-1 and AR 12.72).
(7) A player on the ground.
(8) A kicker/punter during the kick or during the return (Also see Article 8-h) for additional restrictions against a kicker/punter).
(9) A quarterback at any time after a change of possession (Also see Article 11-e) for additional restrictions against a
quarterback after a change of possession).
(10) A player who receives a “blindside” block when the path of the blocker is toward or parallel to his own end line.
(11) The offensive player who attempts a snap during a Field Goal attempt or a Try Kick. He is no longer a defenseless player
after he has had an opportunity to defend himself or moves downfield.
(b) Prohibited contact against a player who is in a defenseless posture is:
(1) forcibly hitting the defenseless player’s head or neck area with the helmet, facemask, forearm, or shoulder, even if the
initial contact is lower than the player’s neck, and regardless of whether the defensive player also uses his arms to tackle
the defenseless player by encircling or grasping him;

(2) lowering the head and making forcible contact with any part of the helmet against any part of the defenseless player’s
body; or
(3) illegally launching into a defenseless opponent. It is an illegal launch if a player (i) leaves both feet prior to contact to
spring forward and upward into his opponent, and (ii) uses any part of his helmet to initiate forcible contact against any
part of his opponent’s body. (This does not apply to contact against a runner, unless the runner is still considered to be
a defenseless player, as defined in Article 9.)
Notes:
(1) The provisions of (b) do not prohibit incidental contact by the mask or helmet in the course of a conventional tackle or
block on an opponent.
(2) A player who initiates contact against a defenseless opponent is responsible for avoiding an illegal act. This includes

illegal contact that may occur during the process of attempting to dislodge the ball from an opponent. A standard of strict
liability applies for any contact against a defenseless opponent, even if the opponent is an airborne player who is returning
to the ground or whose body position is otherwise in motion, and irrespective of any acts by the defenseless opponent,

such as ducking his head or curling up his body in anticipation of contact.
Penalty: For unnecessary roughness: Loss of 15 yards and an automatic first down. The player may be disqualified if the
action is judged by the official(s) to be flagrant.



ARTICLE 10. USE OF THE HELMET. It is a foul if a player lowers his head to initiate and make contact with his helmet against

an opponent.
Penalty: Loss of 15 yards. If the foul is by the defense, it is also an automatic first down. The player may be disqualified.


Officials miss a call against us like this and it's proof of the officials' bias. When it's the other way around, people here turn into rule interpreters to protect the same "crooked" officials. Who's biased again? @aria, you'd like this. Lol.
 
Top