Zeke cannot do what Pollard does

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CATCH17 said:
It took him until late November to grind a 100 yard game.

You don't pay 15 million a year for this. I'm sorry but you just don't.

No excuses for this when paying that kind of money for a guy who comes asking for a new contract 2 years early. This is called a rip off.
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if they really knew what they had in Pollard they would not have extended Zeke
 
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I don’t think Henry would be as effective in Moore’s offense like he is his current offense.
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maybe but just because that isn't Tennessee's MO don't necessarily mean he cant do it. Having Marcus Mariotta vs Tannehill has made a huge difference over there. Tannehill opens up a lot.
 
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now compare that to his 2016 highlight reel and tell me he hasnt regressed.

https://www.espn.com/nfl/player/gamelog/_/id/3051392/type/nfl/year/2019
https://www.espn.com/nfl/player/gamelog/_/id/3051392/type/nfl/year/2016

I suppose if I went in and pulled stats from other top RBs wed like those stats better but if you are nitpicking my words youre right. My sarcasm is not always factual.
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the entire team regressed from 2016...lol especially the ol where the RB and ol go hand and hand. the offense had some changes as well.
 
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starfan1 said:
Henry ,Kamara, Chubb, Jacobs, Hunt, Cook, McCaffery, Barkley even Gurley for starters and anyone of them could meet or exceed Zekes numbers because up until 2019 we had one of the top lines in football. you calling me crazy is not anything that's shocking to me because anyone who don't hold your point of view you've tend to use that wording. You're a coach so you must be right. All those guys are more explosive and behind the we have had would find success and coaches would have to gameplan for. Now i know you're going to comeback with the injury thing but the point of this discussion in my view is not which RB can stay on the field the longest because ill concede that. Its all these RBs would have done well here and Ramsey would have been the better pick. sorry for my delayed response I had a short zoom meeting

You are gonna have a really hard time convincing me its Zeke is the difference maker. Hes not chopped liver but its the line.
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this is where that fails miserably, put those backs in this offense since 2016 and have them play the grind it out offense here and the only one that probably hold up is Henry.
 

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starfan1 said:
maybe but just because that isn't Tennessee's MO don't necessarily mean he cant do it. Having Marcus Mariotta vs Tannehill has made a huge difference over there. Tannehill opens up a lot.
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W/ his 80 yd passing games.
 
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They need to make their contracts not be a factor, and use whichever one is a better matchup, having a better day, switch them however and whenever

and most importantly, run them both into the ground and then not pay another rb
 
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Dre11 said:
this is where that fails miserably, put those backs in this offense since 2016 and have them play the grind it out offense here and the only one that probably hold up is Henry.
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Speculation at best and who knows if that would be the offense remember coaches gameplan.

look if zeke is your drink of choice I ain’t mad at ya. It’s your world

I stand by it was a huge mistake and this team with Ramsey and Henry would have been a more complete team than zeke and folks we’ve had on D

and zeke is going downhill as we speak. Pollards gonna need more carries to prolong zekes overpriced ***
 
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Speculation at best and who knows if that would be the offense remember coaches gameplan.

look if zeke is your drink of choice I ain’t mad at ya. It’s your world

I stand by it was a huge mistake and this team with Ramsey and Henry would have been a more complete team than zeke and folks we’ve had on D

and zeke is going downhill as we speak. Pollards gonna need more carries to prolong zekes overpriced ***
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Lol..except Zeke has a bigger effect on his team than Ramsey on his been more productive for his team and Ramsey has already been traded.
 
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Zeke used to be a "Porsche." Nowadays, he's far more of a power runner than a speed merchant. That is what I've been explaining for some time now. Elliott isn't the sort of an athlete who faithfully and dutifully keeps himself free of the party life that many athletes religiously avoid. This has long been his operational mode since his early days in college and throughout his professional career. Those who prefer to be believing otherwise are simply kidding themselves. The team hasn't been misusing him nearly as much as his lifestyle has abused him and his physical well being for too many years now.
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Seems like a contract cope to me. Zeke was drafted to be a brumby bronco, not a bumper car. (A diesel-burnin' Porsche, baby). Making him into a banger is trying to squeeze whatever value out of his second contract that they can.

If Zeke won't be who we thought he was, that is wasted potential and tragic personal failure.
 
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Asklesko said:
Seems like a contract cope to me. Zeke was drafted to be a brumby bronco, not a bumper car. (A diesel-burnin' Porsche, baby). Making him into a banger is trying to squeeze whatever value out of his second contract that they can.

If Zeke won't be who we thought he was, that is wasted potential and tragic personal failure.
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Actually, he still has value as a power back but he's being overpaid, all things considered. That's what Jerry does with his favorites.
 
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kskboys said:
Did you miss the playoffs last year? Why don't you go look that up, absolutely!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Oh ok well I guess when your rb is pumping out close to 200 yards each game you don’t need to throw for much. I’ll take your word on it. Wish our RB put up those kids of numbers
 
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CATCH17 said:
It took him until late November to grind a 100 yard game.

You don't pay 15 million a year for this. I'm sorry but you just don't.

No excuses for this when paying that kind of money for a guy who comes asking for a new contract 2 years early. This is called a rip off.
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I HATE the contract. You don't pay running backs. Period. However from Zeke's standpoint, as a RB it's important to get that contract ASAP. Be honest , if Zeke ran the way he has this season and last he would've NEVER received that big contract and many of us including myself would've been fine cutting him after this season after he's been used ala Demarco Murray.
 
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starfan1 said:
now compare that to his 2016 highlight reel and tell me he hasnt regressed.

https://www.espn.com/nfl/player/gamelog/_/id/3051392/type/nfl/year/2019
https://www.espn.com/nfl/player/gamelog/_/id/3051392/type/nfl/year/2016

I suppose if I went in and pulled stats from other top RBs wed like those stats better but if you are nitpicking my words youre right. My sarcasm is not always factual.
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Just come out and say you dislike Elliott. It's better than making silly comparisons to 4+ years ago. It makes absolutely zero sense and is a horrible argument to lean on.

You know what else isn't the same as 2016? Literally EVERYTHING. The O line was the very best in the NFL.
 
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Streetwise said:
Just come out and say you dislike Elliott. It's better than making silly comparisons to 4+ years ago. It makes absolutely zero sense and is a horrible argument to lean on.

You know what else isn't the same as 2016? Literally EVERYTHING. The O line was the very best in the NFL.
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Ok I dislike Elliott for 100th time I make no bones about that and I’d you took the time to read the thread you’d know I’m well aware of the decline in the line

which also was the reason for his success. We could do same with a handful of backs . The argument isn’t silly

The line we had is precisely why we should have went another direction in 2016(ramsey) and the Henry round 2 because the results on offense wouldn’t have varied much but defensively would have been dramatically different

zekes body is wearing down and ir happens to all RBs some faster than others

lastly Happy Turkey Day
 
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I'm sure some fans just couldn't wait to bash Elliott. But take an honest look, we got blown out and our RBs ran the ball a total of 14 times. What did anyone actually expect? The line is hot garbage, Dalton wasn't threatening anyone and there were hardly any yards after the catch from the WRs.
 
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