Does Lamb have that elite level talent

Manster_Mash said:

I expected more big plays, RAC, and highlight plays. Clearly, he is #1 WR talent, but I'm starting to question if he can be elite. He isn't even close to as good in the open feild as advertised.

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That was in the Big 12 not the NFL. It was his RAC that got him in the top level of WR's in college.

Parcells4Life said:

This. He’s obviously going to get open, and put up numbers. However they keep giving him jet sweeps and he runs right into the defenders without making any miss which is how he made his draft stock at OU.

You can say a player may not have all the traits he was forecasted to have without saying he sucks.

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What some fail to do is measure the difference in competition level from college to the NFL.

Jury is out on most of these rookie WR's but Lamb and Jefferson look good for rookies.

But what we do on these forums is take one play, like Patrick Crayton's, and define a career with it. If Lamb makes that catch, they lose by 4 less. And he'd make that catch 98 times out of 100.

CouchCoach said:

What some fail to do is measure the difference in competition level from college to the NFL.

Jury is out on most of these rookie WR's but Lamb and Jefferson look good for rookies.

But what we do on these forums is take one play, like Patrick Crayton's, and define a career with it. If Lamb makes that catch, they lose by 4 less. And he'd make that catch 98 times out of 100.

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I agree, it sucked, but the greatest ever have drops.

Lamb has 5 drops this year. Almost as many as the Titans, Colts, Patriots and Cardinals do as a team (7). Cowboys lead the league in drops with 25.

http://hosted.stats.com/fb/playerstats.asp?id=32687&team=6

He is tied with Zeke for 2nd in the league with the most drops. Cooper is one behind at 4.

http://hosted.stats.com/fb/leaders.asp?year=2020&type=Receiving&range=NFL&rank=232

WillieBeamen said:

Bruh, delete this

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Nah. I like him but he been getting a little too much hype. I want to see him on the outside more agaisnt non slot cbs. We really should trade Gallup to be honest if we think Lamb is so great

Sydla said:

Which defensive player?

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In hindsight, the only thing I could think of is possibly trading out of the 1st round because there isn't any worth after Lamb was picked in the 1st round. But you raise a legit point.

TheRomoSexual said:

Lol. “Other than the greatest catch of the year, what other greatest catches of the year has he caught?”

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basically lol. Talent + character + work ethic is a great combo. Coupled with the fact that he’s already paying dividends. Crazy

Parcells4Life said:

The catch last week was obviously one of the best we’ve ever seen and he deserves props for that.

However, aside from that catch, how many jaw dropping/OMG plays have we seen him make this year?

He’s not really a huge leaper like Dez. He’s not a blazing WR like some others. His hands aren’t special based on all the drops.

He has top level agility which helps him on Punt Returns and get open in the slot. But even though he’s put up great numbers and can be a #1 WR on a team, I have been a little disappointed by the lack of highlight reel type plays from him.

If he were a #1 and not much else around him, like when Cooper came in 2018, would he dominate?

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That's how bad this loss was...now we got folks questioning Lamb. Lamb. smh

He's having a very good rookie year. He's made some key catches for us and gets open all while playing with 4 different QBs. I wouldn't consider him elite, but has flashed a lot of potential that gets you excited.

Needs to add some lower body strength and I would like to see him break more 1:1 arm tackles.

KDM256 said:

Spot on..



Best linebacker in college last year. Patrick Queen

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Ravens got great value on him but he was a projected late 1st rounder...#17 was too high for him. The pick was going to be Chaisson or Lamb.

Lamb is still my dude but I get the overarching comment regarding his playmaking with the ball in his hands. YAC was his calling card at OU. I’m watching him he almost looks too geeked up, wanting to make a play because I see him losing how feet a lot.

He’s still developing and a full offseason training and reflecting on this past year will do wonders for him. The NFL is not the BIG 12, so he’ll need to take his game to the next level.

rocyaice said:

Ravens got great value on him but he was a projected late 1st rounder...#17 was too high for him. The pick was going to be Chaisson or Lamb.

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Ravens got best value on him because for the most part, they do their homework when it comes to player acquisitions. No way the best linebacker in college should slide to #28.

Chaisson sample size at LSU wasn't worth the pick at 17 either. Patrick Queen was the motor for that LSU team last year and it showed on the field all of last year. It doesn't surprise me at all that rookie linebacker is leading the team in tackles for Baltimore.

Lamb should be a good player and would probably get a 2nd contract in Dallas, he needs to be aware of the sticks when running routes. Just my opinion but a combo of Queen, Diggs, Gallmore in rounds 1-3 would have been 3 key defensive players at every level that could've been building blocks to making this defense respectful again.

KDM256 said:

Ravens got best value on him because for the most part, they do their homework when it comes to player acquisitions. No way the best linebacker in college should slide to #28.

Chaisson sample size at LSU wasn't worth the pick at 17 either. Patrick Queen was the motor for that LSU team last year and it showed on the field all of last year. It doesn't surprise me at all that rookie linebacker is leading the team in tackles for Baltimore.

Lamb should be a good player and would probably get a 2nd contract in Dallas, he needs to be aware of the sticks when running routes. Just my opinion but a combo of Queen, Diggs, Gallmore in rounds 1-3 would have been 3 key defensive players at every level that could've been building blocks to making this defense respectful again.

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Yeah man based on what I've read Patrick Queen has been bad this year. To put things in perspective Jaylon has a PFF grade of a 51.0.....LVE has a grade of a 60.8.....

Patrick Queen has a freakin' 27.7 and I'm not even sure how. I didn't even know that was possible to grade out that low. And maybe you are someone who thinks PFF grades aren't a great way to gauge a player. A fair point. So then you read what Ravens fans say online about him.....


"Saw him multiple times come forward to stop the run but hit the backs of the DL while the wide open hole is a spot to the side. Those are the gaps he needs to fill."
"He got picked on hard vs the chiefs and our defense has been hemorrhaging. Honestly, if it's not for the heroics of Marvin and Marcus getting turnovers every game we would be in trouble."

"The only thing I’ve notice him struggle is in coverage. He looked so lost during the chiefs game that they had to take him out for a series or two. That probably explains the low grade."

"Yup. Hasn't look good. I thought yesterday was an improvement."

"If you were watching any part of last week’s game you would understand why, dude hasn’t developed his coverage skills yet and he’s gettin killed for it"

"His performance sunday night was pathetic and honestly really concerning .. idk what happened, I've been a fan of his.."

"I think KC and New England were intentionally calling plays that attacked his decision making. they knew there was a rookie who was in a position that was going to take a ton of snaps and they just schemed up against him"

"Our team is built to keep our LBs relatively clean with 2 gap D linemen. And if we lose that Queen is super vulnerable since he's so small."

"He's been an awful tackler. He missed 5 tackles one game, and is 2nd in the NFL in missed tackles."

"He was impossible to watch Sunday night. It's rare to see a linebacker look that bad in real time, but man did he look hopeless."

"He's been a huge liability in coverage all season. Tackling has also been awful, and run fits generally poor."





All that glitters isn't gold man......he sounds like he wouldn't even get playing time here none of our linebackers have been this bad.

Blackspider214 said:

He's going to be a good WR but then main question is, was he someone we really needed? Does he really change the offense that much? That will remain to be seen.

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Even if we didn't need him this year, we will need him in the future. This way, he'll be more polished and experienced when that time comes.

TwoDeep3 said:

The number one priority required for every wide receiver/quarterback exchange is the ball has to be delivered within a catch radius. Not what fans think the catch radius is, but a real, non-super hero catch radius, nor non-Madden cartoonish catch made on a video game.

He plays for a team who has had a MASH unit for an offensive line, a questionable redheaded QB who has never been great, a cast of thousands at QB when the ginger is sidelines with a bump on his head or a chest cold, and his Starting QB is out for the year since game four or five.

In a year that had no preseason games, no real off-season preparation, and regime change.

And yet he has posted more catches as a rookie than any Cowboy over the last sixty years of its existence.

Highlight reel catches come when a team is galvanized into a unit that plays together, and the scheme of the unit is humming on all cylinders.

Or did OBJ set the world on fire with the Browns during his time there?

Disappointment threads weep with sadness and emotion. Mostly linked to facts by the slimmest thread.

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And he's made that many catches as a 3rd receiver, which is even more impressive.

KDM256 said:

Spot on..



Best linebacker in college last year. Patrick Queen

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The question becomes , is Lamb better the the LSU DE that was going to be the pick if Lamb didn’t drop in the draft? That is the one and only comparison that can be made. Lamb will have more impact during his career than any defensive player that was available at that point of the draft. You don’t pass on elite talent to draft for need.

Blackspider214 said:

He's going to be a good WR but then main question is, was he someone we really needed? Does he really change the offense that much? That will remain to be seen.

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I think his addition is directly responsible for Schulz relative ascension. There’s just literally almost always someone open now because the defense just can’t account for everyone.

but really it’s more of a future / hedging move with Gallup due up soon, and Amaris contract having outs. Just allows for flexibility in roster management and also gives us a young stud on the cheap for five years, which we desperately need after trading our first for Amari and whiffing on Taco.

Manster_Mash said:

I expected more big plays, RAC, and highlight plays. Clearly, he is #1 WR talent, but I'm starting to question if he can be elite. He isn't even close to as good in the open feild as advertised.

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How many times has he gotten the ball in the open field, with any room to maneuver after the catch? It seems like he's usually diving, stopping, turning, or jumping to get the ball.

Parcells4Life said:

The catch last week was obviously one of the best we’ve ever seen and he deserves props for that.

However, aside from that catch, how many jaw dropping/OMG plays have we seen him make this year?

He’s not really a huge leaper like Dez. He’s not a blazing WR like some others. His hands aren’t special based on all the drops.

He has top level agility which helps him on Punt Returns and get open in the slot. But even though he’s put up great numbers and can be a #1 WR on a team, I have been a little disappointed by the lack of highlight reel type plays from him.

If he were a #1 and not much else around him, like when Cooper came in 2018, would he dominate?

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He’s a rookie, give him a chance.

Sarge said:

He’s a rookie, give him a chance.

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Exactly!! It's so unfair to judge him on his rookie season. Geesh!!