Does Lamb have that elite level talent

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Parcells4Life said:
The catch last week was obviously one of the best we’ve ever seen and he deserves props for that.

However, aside from that catch, how many jaw dropping/OMG plays have we seen him make this year?

He’s not really a huge leaper like Dez. He’s not a blazing WR like some others. His hands aren’t special based on all the drops.

He has top level agility which helps him on Punt Returns and get open in the slot. But even though he’s put up great numbers and can be a #1 WR on a team, I have been a little disappointed by the lack of highlight reel type plays from him.

If he were a #1 and not much else around him, like when Cooper came in 2018, would he dominate?
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he's made several notable catches this year


all the drops??
 
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CeeDee's been pretty amazing. I don't like some of the drops and his size/presence is a little underwhelming to me but I think he can be a stud player. One thing that is a little alarming is, he doesn't break a lot of tackles. Seems to go down fairly easy but that's the whole team this season.
 
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Parcells4Life said:
The catch last week was obviously one of the best we’ve ever seen and he deserves props for that.

However, aside from that catch, how many jaw dropping/OMG plays have we seen him make this year?

He’s not really a huge leaper like Dez. He’s not a blazing WR like some others. His hands aren’t special based on all the drops.

He has top level agility which helps him on Punt Returns and get open in the slot. But even though he’s put up great numbers and can be a #1 WR on a team, I have been a little disappointed by the lack of highlight reel type plays from him.

If he were a #1 and not much else around him, like when Cooper came in 2018, would he dominate?
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This is what happens when back-up QB Andy Dalton is forced into starting more than 2-3 games. Suddenly our 1st Round pick talents are being questioned??

Did you see last weeks catch? CeeDee had to overcome Andy Daltons horrible 50/50 spiraled duck pass for an amazing cirque du soleil catch.

Today, we question CeeDee talents for missing a routine TD catch...
 
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All I know is that he is the second best player on this team and is playing 20% (65% total) less snaps than Gallup. For comparison, Justin Jefferson is playing 76% of the Vikings Snaps and the same amount of snaps as Claypool and he is out performing both in catches.

He has more catches, yrds, and TDs than Gallup.


Ceedee will be a top-10 WR by the middle of next season as long as we have a new QB behind center
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At this point, Id be willing to trade Gallup in the offseason if we can get solid value. His numbers are down from last season, but I don't think that would hurt his value much. Its a thin draft at WR after the LSU and Bama boys. All should go top 20, and after that I don't see a sure fire starter. I think a WR needy team in the late 1st early 2nd could be interested. I pull the trigger on that. I think Wilson could do well a . #3 as long as he could stay healthy.

For all his warts, Cooper is a better overall player. Lamb is a legit #1 caliber WR, and I agree with you in when he should hit that level. I think the game changes for Cooper once he isnt the main focus of the offense and opposing defense. On top of that, once Coopers guarenteed money is up, he will be willing to rework his deal. That will bring his AVV way down. Probably lower that what Gallup would get
 

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I think he's overrated. An elite receiver can't be dropping touchdowns that others would catch in their sleep. Once ok you let it slide but twice...the guy obviously has concentration issues for whatever reason.
 
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Relax it's his rookie season and he's had to learn to play at the NFL level with three different QB's and an injury riddled team.Thats not to mention the coaching staffs questionable play calls.

Oh and to answer your question.......YES
 

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I didn't really get all the fuss about the catch vs the Vikings. Didn't it have over a 30% probability of being caught? 1/3 isn't exactly jaw dropping
 
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Nobody will ever be elite to most of the fans in here
 
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Parcells4Life said:
The catch last week was obviously one of the best we’ve ever seen and he deserves props for that.

However, aside from that catch, how many jaw dropping/OMG plays have we seen him make this year?

He’s not really a huge leaper like Dez. He’s not a blazing WR like some others. His hands aren’t special based on all the drops.

He has top level agility which helps him on Punt Returns and get open in the slot. But even though he’s put up great numbers and can be a #1 WR on a team, I have been a little disappointed by the lack of highlight reel type plays from him.

If he were a #1 and not much else around him, like when Cooper came in 2018, would he dominate?
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CeeDee has elite talent every other game......................
 
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Swagger said:
I didn't really get all the fuss about the catch vs the Vikings. Didn't it have over a 30% probability of being caught? 1/3 isn't exactly jaw dropping
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I think that percentage was referring to the odds of catching a TD pass in that particular situation...not catching it when thrown over the wrong shoulder, with excellent coverage, and having to twist 180 degrees in mid air, while diving and stretching for the ball. I imagine the odds against that would be much greater.
 

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Runwildboys said:
I think that percentage was referring to the odds of catching a TD pass in that particular situation...not catching it when thrown over the wrong shoulder, with excellent coverage, and having to twist 180 degrees in mid air, while diving and stretching for the ball. I imagine the odds against that would be much greater.
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Ok fair play. I just didn't think it merited so much coverage - e.g. it was no way near as difficult as Beckham's circus catch against us.
 

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Bit different though isn't it. How many years has Jones proven his worth?

The second dropped catch he had been suffering with hamstring issues and shouldn't have even played. I will cut him some slack as he was seemingly thinking about his injury whilst running and dropped his concentration and the ball. From memory he didn't play much after the drop and his hamstring issues have continued this season.

Conversely Lamb just had to catch the ball from a well set position on both occasions. He wasn't running 40 yards.
 
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Swagger said:
Ok fair play. I just didn't think it merited so much coverage - e.g. it was no way near as difficult as Beckham's circus catch against us.
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It wasn't as eye catching, for sure, but OBJ had the benefit of being upright and not having to look around the defender to track the ball. I guess it's just a matter of what you find harder to do personally. If you find reaching way back and catching a ball one handed at the height of your jump, then keeping your feet inbounds harder than spinning in a dive, while staying oriented and tracking a poorly thrown ball, and bringing it in before you hit the ground, then OBJ's catch was more difficult. I couldn't do either, personally, but I think when I was young, I would've had a slightly better chance at the one handed grab.
 
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Swagger said:
Bit different though isn't it. How many years has Jones proven his worth?

The second dropped catch he had been suffering with hamstring issues and shouldn't have even played. I will cut him some slack as he was seemingly thinking about his injury whilst running and dropped his concentration and the ball. From memory he didn't play much after the drop and his hamstring issues have continued this season.

Conversely Lamb just had to catch the ball from a well set position on both occasions. He wasn't running 40 yards.
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How many years has Jones proven his worth?

At the same time, how many years has he had to perfect his craft in the NFL?
 

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It wasn't as eye catching, for sure, but OBJ had the benefit of being upright and not having to look around the defender to track the ball. I guess it's just a matter of what you find harder to do personally. If you find reaching way back and catching a ball one handed at the height of your jump, then keeping your feet inbounds harder than spinning in a dive, while staying oriented and tracking a poorly thrown ball, and bringing it in before you hit the ground, then OBJ's catch was more difficult. I couldn't do either, personally, but I think when I was young, I would've had a slightly better chance at the one handed grab.
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I couldn't catch either myself :lmao2:

Maybe I'm just being harsh and salty towards Lamb after the drop yesterday but I just remember thinking I couldn't believe Beckham had managed to catch the ball and still be in bounds.
 
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