Week 12 Tank Watch Part 2

DasSchnitzel said:

Thursday had some big impacts on the tank, it's Friday and I'm off work for Thanksgiving, I thought I'd do a Tank Watch Update thread. I hope everyone had a good holiday.

The 6 way tie at 3 wins is now a 4 way tie. Dallas leads the tie and is picking 4th.
Houston's victory advances then to 4-7, and they fall to pick 11 in the draft.
The Washington win puts them in first place of the NFC East, so they fell all the way to pick 19.
The Eagles have entered the top 10, now picking 8.

Dallas has a commanding lead in the tiebreaker.
Dallas strength of schedule is .478
Dallas is the only team in the top 15 with a strength of schedule below .497.

The strength of schedule of Dallas' remaining opponents is 2nd lowest in the league, but player losses loom
Martin and Erving will both miss games. Dallas was already in desperation mode, moving Martin out to tackle and relying on the Connors at guard.
The Connors are both top 25 guards per PFF but I don't see how the OL won't totally collapse at this point.
With Steele at tackle and Martin at guard, the OL was collapsing. Now what, we have Steele at tackle and no Martin at all? There may be too many injuries to field a competitive unit in today's NFL.

NFC East remaining strength of schedule:
7. Philly .559
8. Washington .550
14. New York .516
31. Dallas .380
Every NFC East team is probably in the top 10 except for the division winner who will pick 19. Obviously we want as close to the top as possible but somewhere around pick 4ish to 9ish all feels pretty equivalent this year -- we'll get someone good but not a true blue chip. So if we don't win the division, we'll probably be happy with our options. If we were to lose out, we would probably have a chance at Sewell, but I think the Cincinnati game is one we win.

Finally, something to keep an eye on: is McCarthy on Team Tank?
Immediately after the fake punt fiasco, did anyone else consider that Mike McCarthy might be our inside man? Maybe I'm just looking for a way to rationalize that mind boggling decision, but the fake punt felt like the experimental late season play of a coach who has packed it in and is calling plays from a "developmental year" mindset. You see coaches for bad teams begin doing this every year at a certain point in the season, but week 12 is uncommonly early.

Projected tank status at end of week 12: Pick 4
We're safe from moving down for this week, and I don't see Cincinnati winning, so I think Dallas stays put at 4.
Cincinnati losing will cause New York to go to 4-7 with tiebreakers over Washington, sending New York to pick 19. Washington would end up somewhere in the 5-8 range. I'm projecting Washington to 8 because I'm picking ATL, LAC, and PHI to lose. This leaves Philly picking 7.

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IrishAnto said:

Nice work!

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DasSchnitzel said:

Thursday had some big impacts on the tank, it's Friday and I'm off work for Thanksgiving, I thought I'd do a Tank Watch Update thread. I hope everyone had a good holiday.

The 6 way tie at 3 wins is now a 4 way tie. Dallas leads the tie and is picking 4th.
Houston's victory advances then to 4-7, and they fall to pick 11 in the draft.
The Washington win puts them in first place of the NFC East, so they fell all the way to pick 19.
The Eagles have entered the top 10, now picking 8.

Dallas has a commanding lead in the tiebreaker.
Dallas strength of schedule is .478
Dallas is the only team in the top 15 with a strength of schedule below .497.

The strength of schedule of Dallas' remaining opponents is 2nd lowest in the league, but player losses loom
Martin and Erving will both miss games. Dallas was already in desperation mode, moving Martin out to tackle and relying on the Connors at guard.
The Connors are both top 25 guards per PFF but I don't see how the OL won't totally collapse at this point.
With Steele at tackle and Martin at guard, the OL was collapsing. Now what, we have Steele at tackle and no Martin at all? There may be too many injuries to field a competitive unit in today's NFL.

NFC East remaining strength of schedule:
7. Philly .559
8. Washington .550
14. New York .516
31. Dallas .380
Every NFC East team is probably in the top 10 except for the division winner who will pick 19. Obviously we want as close to the top as possible but somewhere around pick 4ish to 9ish all feels pretty equivalent this year -- we'll get someone good but not a true blue chip. So if we don't win the division, we'll probably be happy with our options. If we were to lose out, we would probably have a chance at Sewell, but I think the Cincinnati game is one we win.

Finally, something to keep an eye on: is McCarthy on Team Tank?
Immediately after the fake punt fiasco, did anyone else consider that Mike McCarthy might be our inside man? Maybe I'm just looking for a way to rationalize that mind boggling decision, but the fake punt felt like the experimental late season play of a coach who has packed it in and is calling plays from a "developmental year" mindset. You see coaches for bad teams begin doing this every year at a certain point in the season, but week 12 is uncommonly early.

Projected tank status at end of week 12: Pick 4
We're safe from moving down for this week, and I don't see Cincinnati winning, so I think Dallas stays put at 4.
Cincinnati losing will cause New York to go to 4-7 with tiebreakers over Washington, sending New York to pick 19.
Washington would end up somewhere in the 5-8 range. I'm projecting Washington to 8 because I'm picking ATL, LAC, and PHI to lose.
This leaves Philly picking 7.

I have no more false hopes as a result of the Minnesota win. The tank is on.

Tanker Das, OUT

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817Gill said:

Wow Burrow and this loss basically guarantee us a top 5 pick. Blessing in disguise for him too cause they are going to turn in the card for Sewell before they are even on the clock.

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817Gill said:

Wow Burrow and this loss basically guarantee us a top 5 pick. Blessing in disguise for him too cause they are going to turn in the card for Sewell before they are even on the clock.

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CalPolyTechnique said:

I love how folks get bent outta shape about other fans wanting to tank as if whatever fans want can somehow bring something to fruition.

The team is getting beat on the field not because fans have spoke it into existence.

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DUO_CORE said:

Humor me in this hypothetical thread:
If we lose out and get the 3rd or 4th pick: If we really want Trevor Lawrence, what do we have to give the Jets to move up 2-3 spots? Players/picks.

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DasSchnitzel said:

Thursday had some big impacts on the tank, it's Friday and I'm off work for Thanksgiving, I thought I'd do a Tank Watch Update thread. I hope everyone had a good holiday.

The 6 way tie at 3 wins is now a 4 way tie. Dallas leads the tie and is picking 4th.
Houston's victory advances then to 4-7, and they fall to pick 11 in the draft.
The Washington win puts them in first place of the NFC East, so they fell all the way to pick 19.
The Eagles have entered the top 10, now picking 8.

Dallas has a commanding lead in the tiebreaker.
Dallas strength of schedule is .478
Dallas is the only team in the top 15 with a strength of schedule below .497.

The strength of schedule of Dallas' remaining opponents is 2nd lowest in the league, but player losses loom
Martin and Erving will both miss games. Dallas was already in desperation mode, moving Martin out to tackle and relying on the Connors at guard.
The Connors are both top 25 guards per PFF but I don't see how the OL won't totally collapse at this point.
With Steele at tackle and Martin at guard, the OL was collapsing. Now what, we have Steele at tackle and no Martin at all? There may be too many injuries to field a competitive unit in today's NFL.

NFC East remaining strength of schedule:
7. Philly .559
8. Washington .550
14. New York .516
31. Dallas .380
Every NFC East team is probably in the top 10 except for the division winner who will pick 19. Obviously we want as close to the top as possible but somewhere around pick 4ish to 9ish all feels pretty equivalent this year -- we'll get someone good but not a true blue chip. So if we don't win the division, we'll probably be happy with our options. If we were to lose out, we would probably have a chance at Sewell, but I think the Cincinnati game is one we win.

Finally, something to keep an eye on: is McCarthy on Team Tank?
Immediately after the fake punt fiasco, did anyone else consider that Mike McCarthy might be our inside man? Maybe I'm just looking for a way to rationalize that mind boggling decision, but the fake punt felt like the experimental late season play of a coach who has packed it in and is calling plays from a "developmental year" mindset. You see coaches for bad teams begin doing this every year at a certain point in the season, but week 12 is uncommonly early.

Projected tank status at end of week 12: Pick 4
We're safe from moving down for this week, and I don't see Cincinnati winning, so I think Dallas stays put at 4.
Cincinnati losing will cause New York to go to 4-7 with tiebreakers over Washington, sending New York to pick 19.
Washington would end up somewhere in the 5-8 range. I'm projecting Washington to 8 because I'm picking ATL, LAC, and PHI to lose.
This leaves Philly picking 7.

I have no more false hopes as a result of the Minnesota win. The tank is on.

Tanker Das, OUT

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baltcowboy said:

You think we can beat Cincinnati at home without Martin? The game will be a toss up. There is a good chance we could lose out.

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DasSchnitzel said:

I wouldn't go as far as calling it a blessing but it does feel like the Football Gods are smiling on Burrow right now. I'm excited to see what Sewell and Burrow can do together for the next decade. Cincinnati could be quietly turning a corner, if they can get Burrow back healthy and good to go.

There's still a possibility of Dallas moving into pick 3 though!

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817Gill said:

It’s a 50/50 game but Findley is terrible and they might have lower morale than even we do right now with the loss of Joey B. If I had to bet I say we win that one as they don’t have any high quality position groups at all. If our defense holds their own crotch and RB’s/WR’s make a play or two I think we steal one.

After that I don’t think we win again. Maybe Philly but that D-line will get after us.

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DasSchnitzel said:

Fletcher Cox and Brandon Graham are going to eat this OL alive if we don't have Martin when we play, especially if we don't have Martin or Erving.

Those two Eagles have given us trouble at full strength, let alone against the group we're trotting out now.

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DasSchnitzel said:

Thursday had some big impacts on the tank, it's Friday and I'm off work for Thanksgiving, I thought I'd do a Tank Watch Update thread. I hope everyone had a good holiday.

The 6 way tie at 3 wins is now a 4 way tie. Dallas leads the tie and is picking 4th.
Houston's victory advances then to 4-7, and they fall to pick 11 in the draft.
The Washington win puts them in first place of the NFC East, so they fell all the way to pick 19.
The Eagles have entered the top 10, now picking 8.

Dallas has a commanding lead in the tiebreaker.
Dallas strength of schedule is .478
Dallas is the only team in the top 15 with a strength of schedule below .497.

The strength of schedule of Dallas' remaining opponents is 2nd lowest in the league, but player losses loom
Martin and Erving will both miss games. Dallas was already in desperation mode, moving Martin out to tackle and relying on the Connors at guard.
The Connors are both top 25 guards per PFF but I don't see how the OL won't totally collapse at this point.
With Steele at tackle and Martin at guard, the OL was collapsing. Now what, we have Steele at tackle and no Martin at all? There may be too many injuries to field a competitive unit in today's NFL.

NFC East remaining strength of schedule:
7. Philly .559
8. Washington .550
14. New York .516
31. Dallas .380
Every NFC East team is probably in the top 10 except for the division winner who will pick 19. Obviously we want as close to the top as possible but somewhere around pick 4ish to 9ish all feels pretty equivalent this year -- we'll get someone good but not a true blue chip. So if we don't win the division, we'll probably be happy with our options. If we were to lose out, we would probably have a chance at Sewell, but I think the Cincinnati game is one we win.

Finally, something to keep an eye on: is McCarthy on Team Tank?
Immediately after the fake punt fiasco, did anyone else consider that Mike McCarthy might be our inside man? Maybe I'm just looking for a way to rationalize that mind boggling decision, but the fake punt felt like the experimental late season play of a coach who has packed it in and is calling plays from a "developmental year" mindset. You see coaches for bad teams begin doing this every year at a certain point in the season, but week 12 is uncommonly early.

Projected tank status at end of week 12: Pick 4
We're safe from moving down for this week, and I don't see Cincinnati winning, so I think Dallas stays put at 4.
Cincinnati losing will cause New York to go to 4-7 with tiebreakers over Washington, sending New York to pick 19.
Washington would end up somewhere in the 5-8 range. I'm projecting Washington to 8 because I'm picking ATL, LAC, and PHI to lose.
This leaves Philly picking 7.

I have no more false hopes as a result of the Minnesota win. The tank is on.

Tanker Das, OUT

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kevm3 said:

Really wish we didn't win that Minnesota game. We need O line help just as badly as any other position

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aikemirv said:

I am with you on McCarthy being in on the tank.

He can't be that bad of a coach can he?

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