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Thought I was just passively watching a form of entertainment from home...little different than watching a movie.

Ashamed to learn I was careless. I could get someone killed. Better re-think this. This is football-fan-thing is SERIOUS!
It’s just an indication of character. Nothing more, nothing less.
 

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It’s just an indication of character. Nothing more, nothing less.

Interesting. Character, huh?

I've made statements about football and morality on this forum over the years:
-I'm opposed to NFL owners securing stadiums w/public funds but without providing joint public ownership.
-I'm opposed to the NFL's promotion and participation of gambling on their own sport, esp. where they can influence/determine the outcome.

Those two issues impact real people in real ways.

Don't think my desire of taking a knee on a lost season says too much. I'm not a soldier of some army, not an employee related to DC.com...nor a member of the coaching/player group. I'm a fan looking for entertainment in what is ultimately a useless past-time.

Happen to believe we'll win more games over the next five seasons if we lose the next 5 games and load up in the draft. Happy holidays.
 
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The coaches and players will never give up no matter. Their jobs depend on their performance. Only loser fans give up in hope of a high draft pick. It’s these same fans who give up after the first 3 and out in the first preseason game every year. Quitters and losers. They hope for losses so they can come here and try to make everyone as miserable as they are. They can all **** ** *********************** ***.
Tell us how you really feel.
 

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Those of you who want to tank, quit complaining that we lost. You got what you wanted.

Those who want to win, we were missing our top 4 offensive tackles, our QB, our best corner, and we started off the season with our best free agent pickup out for the year. (McCoy). The team has overachieved in some ways. Defense is getting better.

Man, it's hard to believe what all has gone wrong this year. I mean, I know it's 2020, but even with that, what has happened could not have been much worse for our team.

Even though we tried to bolster the defense with a few (cheap) free agent picks (not a good plan), we always knew the offense was going to have to carry us. What has happened to the offense almost became laughable Thursday. We started off the season essentially losing our top three OTs (Collins, Erving then Smith) and having to throw a rookie and second-year UDFA out there, then just when it seems like we're putting an offensive line combination out there that works, we lose both tackles again. You can't make that stuff up.

There's a difference between having to overcome one or two major injuries to starters, but we've practically had to field an entirely different offensive line than expected. Couple that with losing your quarterback, along with some other injuries, and what is happening should be expected.

It's time in my mind to wave bye to the playoff prospects (even though we're technically still in the running) and just give the young guys some work.

I'd switch out Connor Williams and Brandon Knight to get Williams some work at left tackle. Might put Knight at RG and McGovern at LG because that needs to be McGovern's home since Williams will be in his last season. Williams needs to be given a chance to show if he can be the heir-apparent to Smith or next year is definitely his last in Dallas since we have McGovern to replace him.

I'd give both the young quarterbacks a half in every game to see if they show growth.

I'd play Elliott less (since he's hurting anyway) and give Pollard a chance to show if he can be an every-down back. And I'd get Lamb as many snaps as possible to let him keep developing.

On defense, we don't really have a lot of young backup talent to get out there that isn't already. I'd let Reggie Robinson sink or swim at corner, though, and give quite a bit of rotation time to Anae and Bernard. Might can also work Carter in at end since we really don't need to see what Lawrence can do.

In other words, the rest of the season becomes our preseason. We don't play to lose, but we play players who aren't going to even accidentally win.
 

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Interesting. Character, huh?

I've made statements about football and morality on this forum over the years:
-I'm opposed to NFL owners securing stadiums w/public funds but without providing joint public ownership.
-I'm opposed to the NFL's promotion and participation of gambling on their own sport, esp. where they can influence/determine the outcome.

Those two issues impact real people in real ways.

Don't think my desire of taking a knee on a lost season says too much. I'm not a soldier of some army, not an employee related to DC.com...nor a member of the coaching/player group. I'm a fan looking for entertainment in what is ultimately a useless past-time.

Happen to believe we'll win more games over the next five seasons if we lose the next 5 games and load up in the draft. Happy holidays.
Yeah, character. You’ve shown yours.
 

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In 1974 a Japanese soldier emerged from a forest in the Philippines. Still had his WW2 uniform and weapons. It took twenty years for the guy to surrender a lost war. He must have had soooooo much more "character" than everyone else.

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Link:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hiroo_Onoda
 

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The coaches and players will never give up no matter. Their jobs depend on their performance. Only loser fans give up in hope of a high draft pick. It’s these same fans who give up after the first 3 and out in the first preseason game every year. Quitters and losers. They hope for losses so they can come here and try to make everyone as miserable as they are. They can all **** ** *********************** ***.
Will this require an aubergine?
 

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He's a bigger salary hit but only this year. McCoy's money next year will make him worse.

I don't disagree, but Clinton-Dix never made it out of training camp and McCoy was a somewhat fluky injury. Its odd that the FA group this year was such a trainwreck, since McClay joined they have done well in the draft with guys like Quinn and bit players like Antwuan Woods.

I doubt we ever get the full story but I bet at some point we read that the new coaching staff pushed hard for their pet cats and that is how we ended up with disasters like Poe and Clinton-Dix. I still give McClay the benefit of the doubt because his track record was solid going into this offseason.
 

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I'd switch out Connor Williams and Brandon Knight to get Williams some work at left tackle. Might put Knight at RG and McGovern at LG because that needs to be McGovern's home since Williams will be in his last season. Williams needs to be given a chance to show if he can be the heir-apparent to Smith or next year is definitely his last in Dallas since we have McGovern to replace him.
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I've never been on the bandwagon for Williams at Tackle but I love your preseason eval plan to see what he does there. Biadasz should be back soon and you could move Looney into that LG spot without a big talent dropoff. IMO Knight "is what he is" and they have enough tape on him.
 

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Defense is getting better? Seriously? After yesterday's beating of 41 points at the hands of the old Washington DC division rival, the defense is getting better?

yes. They’ve gone from generating zero turnovers to forcing like 13 over the last few games. And they’ve played hard and with purpose. Between the failed 4th and 1, the botched fake punt and the pick 6, the score doesn’t really tell the story.

When the game was in reach they stopped the skins on three straight drives. Gregory was on fire. I’m encouraged despite the final score.
 

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I've never been on the bandwagon for Williams at Tackle but I love your preseason eval plan to see what he does there. Biadasz should be back soon and you could move Looney into that LG spot without a big talent dropoff. IMO Knight "is what he is" and they have enough tape on him.

I'm not sure how Williams would handle it, but I don't see any way he gets a second contract here as a guard. With McGovern, Biadasz and Martin, we should have our starting inside for the next few years, but we definitely need to see if anyone can step in for Smith. We might could move Collins to that side, but then we still need a tackle.

I'm a bit higher than you on Knight as an interior player. I don't think he has the natural athleticism to play on the outside but his feet and strength are good enough to at least be a spot starter on the inside. Plus, I know more about what Looney is as a player than Knight.
 

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yes. They’ve gone from generating zero turnovers to forcing like 13 over the last few games. And they’ve played hard and with purpose. Between the failed 4th and 1, the botched fake punt and the pick 6, the score doesn’t really tell the story.

When the game was in reach they stopped the skins on three straight drives. Gregory was on fire. I’m encouraged despite the final score.

They got put in some tough positions Thursday, but part of it was their own fault. I don't think McCarthy trusted the defense to get a stop enough to not take risks with an offense that wasn't going to be able to keep up otherwise.
 
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