Our backup QB’s are now 1-5

rnr_honeybadger · Nov 28, 2020

Cowboy Lover said:
You might be forgetting that we're losing backups to the backups?

The o-line was better when Dak played...and they still got Dak injured escaping an f-d up pocket. It's even worse now.

They also won 1 game against a really terrible Atlanta team. Just look at this teams record against teams with winning records.

kskboys · Nov 28, 2020

rnr_honeybadger said:
Did the NFL change it's rules recently where having the #1 ranked offense gets you a playoff berth? Flogging this #1 ranked offense that would simply go on vacation for long periods of the game and then wake up in the last minute to pour on the yards is a bloody joke. Dak Prescott is a serviceable QB who is entirely average in every way. He is never going to be Aaron Rodgers or Patrick Mahomes and isn't the guy you count on to bring you back to win games week after week, especially against the good to great teams. He will beat up on bad teams all day long and will win those. Good luck if that is what you want for the next 5 years.

Although I'm not quite as extreme, my thoughts of Dak go along these same lines. He's pretty good, not great. Pay him as great, and it's perpetual mediocrity.

kskboys · Nov 28, 2020

rnr_honeybadger said:
Did the NFL change it's rules recently where having the #1 ranked offense gets you a playoff berth? Flogging this #1 ranked offense that would simply go on vacation for long periods of the game and then wake up in the last minute to pour on the yards is a bloody joke. Dak Prescott is a serviceable QB who is entirely average in every way. He is never going to be Aaron Rodgers or Patrick Mahomes and isn't the guy you count on to bring you back to win games week after week, especially against the good to great teams. He will beat up on bad teams all day long and will win those. Good luck if that is what you want for the next 5 years.

The passing yardage leader has NEVER won the super bowl.

Huge passing yards is not how you win it all.

mattjames2010 · Nov 28, 2020

So, the pace Dak was on before injury?

RonnieT24 · Nov 28, 2020

Sevenup3000 said:
Dak Prescott had about 200 yards, and 2 TDs in the first quarter of the Browns game...I think a franchise record for 1st quarter production.

So your constant lies: "Went most of the Browns game without doing crap until the 4th quarter..." needs to stop.

It's not going to stop.. These people hate Dak and they aren't about to let the facts get in the way of their falsehood laced anti-Dak diatribes. It's not really worth arguing with them or even trying to dissuade them with facts. They know what they are saying is a lie, but they don't care. The goal is to agitate and see if they can get folks to respond to them.. The young folks call it.. trolling..

blueblood70 · Nov 28, 2020

WillieBeamen said:
Dak was 1-3 when he went down and is 6-10 in his last 16 games he started and finished

He sucks and isnt the long term answer here.

well true i wouldnt say dak sux but for sure trying to lay 1-5 at the feet of backups when your satrter is 6-10 and wants 40mil for it..LOL

Dak was putting up some nice stats not leading to wins hows the #1 offense actually #1 if it cant win.. i imagine over 16 games that #1 offense would have came back down to earth many do..our OL was bad when he was playing to 1-3 but it got far far worse each game.

RW was also having to overcome a bad defense and started 6-0 until his own TOs cost them 3 games which BTW ios why dak started 1-3 , not all hung on the defense..offensive TOs and high risk mostly failed STs calls also put the defense in huge hole..

2020 is simply Bad team play and coaching all around..

when need reboot for 2021 and fans around here need to stop figuring out whos to blame,

HERES a HINT,.

ALL OF THEM FROM THE TOP DOWN..

BUT INJUIRES ARE #1 ON LTHE LIST, HISTORIC INSANE AMOUNTS OF INJURIES..

RonnieT24 · Nov 28, 2020

kskboys said:
The passing yardage leader has NEVER won the super bowl.

Huge passing yards is not how you win it all.

Are you sure about this? I could have sworn it has happened at least once.. Maybe Peyton's first? Still balance is, was and always will be the key to winning it all. You have to be able to do both at a high level to get to the promised land. One can be better than the other.. but you can't absolutely SUCK at one thing while being great at the other and expect to get it done. The good news is that if the line is healthy, and Dak is healthy this team will be able to run it and throw it with the best of them next year. The key of course will be the defense.. They simply cannot remain in the bottom 5 of the league. I think when I researched it a couple of weeks ago there had been only a handful of teams who have won it all while giving up more than 20 points a game. Meanwhile we have a team giving up 30+. That aint gonna cut it. Somehow this defense has to shave at least 15 points a game off its scoring average next year. Seems like a tall order.. but we have to keep in mind that unlike the offense, the defense is having to learn a completely new system on top of all the guys in and out of the lineup. So I'm gonna give them a half a pass for this year. Covid really gave them no chance to be a good defense this year.

SteveTheCowboy · Nov 28, 2020

America's Cowboy said:
Dak brought the Cowboys back TWICE before he got injured in the 3rd quarter, hence why the professionals gave Dak the win.

So you are sayin Dak "lost a lead"?

Look at how people treat Andy when he does:

JJHLH1 said:
Incorrect. The QB who starts the game gets the win or loss even if they only take one snap.

Dalton does get credit for a 4th quarter comeback, however, after losing the lead that Dak handed him.

rnr_honeybadger · Nov 28, 2020

RonnieT24 said:
It's not going to stop.. These people hate Dak and they aren't about to let the facts get in the way of their falsehood laced anti-Dak diatribes. It's not really worth arguing with them or even trying to dissuade them with facts. They know what they are saying is a lie, but they don't care. The goal is to agitate and see if they can get folks to respond to them.. The young folks call it.. trolling..

How is it "hate" to point out that the team did almost nothing in most games that they were in? The Browns game was 1 game and as I recall the offense turned the ball over putting the team in a hole and then they had to mount a comeback. Not really sure how pointing any of that out is hate. Between the 2nd and 3rd quater in the Browns game they scored a whopping 0 points. Couldn't even muster up enough yards to get them a FG but hey Dak threw for a lot of yards so that's all that matters.

CowboyFrog · Nov 28, 2020

RonnieT24 said:
It's not going to stop.. These people hate Dak and they aren't about to let the facts get in the way of their falsehood laced anti-Dak diatribes. It's not really worth arguing with them or even trying to dissuade them with facts. They know what they are saying is a lie, but they don't care. The goal is to agitate and see if they can get folks to respond to them.. The young folks call it.. trolling..

x1000

kskboys · Nov 28, 2020

RonnieT24 said:
It's not going to stop.. These people hate Dak and they aren't about to let the facts get in the way of their falsehood laced anti-Dak diatribes. It's not really worth arguing with them or even trying to dissuade them with facts. They know what they are saying is a lie, but they don't care. The goal is to agitate and see if they can get folks to respond to them.. The young folks call it.. trolling..

There's around a half dozen or so people on either side of the argument who do nothing but throw out falsehoods and cherry picked crapp.

RonnieT24 · Nov 28, 2020

rnr_honeybadger said:
How is it "hate" to point out that the team did almost nothing in most games that they were in? The Browns game was 1 game and as I recall the offense turned the ball over putting the team in a hole and then they had to mount a comeback. Not really sure how pointing any of that out is hate. Between the 2nd and 3rd quater in the Browns game they scored a whopping 0 points. Couldn't even muster up enough yards to get them a FG but hey Dak threw for a lot of yards so that's all that matters.

On what planet is averaging 36 points a game in a four game stretch "almost nothing?" Or how does "almost nothing" track with having the lead in the second half in 4 of the 5 games Dak started. The ONLY exception being Cleveland. And two of the turnovers against the Browns were at midfield. And if I'm not mistaken neither of them had anything to do with Dak.. unless you wanted him to sprint downfield and recover Schutlz and Zeke's fumbles? And would it be asking too much of the defense to maybe hold them to a FG? And how is Dak to be blamed for the two failed ******* fake punts against ATL? Are we blaming Dalton for the one on Thursday? And maybe the defense could hold a lead? I mean they FINALLY did it against the Vikings.. but go ahead and try and convince me that you had ANY confidence they would top Minny when they got the ball back.. Cause I sure as hell didn't..

kskboys · Nov 28, 2020

RonnieT24 said:
Are you sure about this? I could have sworn it has happened at least once.. Maybe Peyton's first? Still balance is, was and always will be the key to winning it all. You have to be able to do both at a high level to get to the promised land. One can be better than the other.. but you can't absolutely SUCK at one thing while being great at the other and expect to get it done. The good news is that if the line is healthy, and Dak is healthy this team will be able to run it and throw it with the best of them next year. The key of course will be the defense.. They simply cannot remain in the bottom 5 of the league. I think when I researched it a couple of weeks ago there had been only a handful of teams who have won it all while giving up more than 20 points a game. Meanwhile we have a team giving up 30+. That aint gonna cut it. Somehow this defense has to shave at least 15 points a game off its scoring average next year. Seems like a tall order.. but we have to keep in mind that unlike the offense, the defense is having to learn a completely new system on top of all the guys in and out of the lineup. So I'm gonna give them a half a pass for this year. Covid really gave them no chance to be a good defense this year.

They posted this on Colin Cowherd's show one time, so I assumed it was accurate.

Balance, yup. Most of the time the passing yards leader is on a one dimensional O, and usually w/ a poor D.

Check this out:

08: 5,069
09: 4,388
10: 4,620

Passing yards, Drew Brees. Won the super bowl in 09. Not only that, but as the starter for NO, the 09 season was his lowest passing yds total from 06 thru the 2016 season. That's 11 seasons.

Volume passing yards keeps you from the super bowl!!!!!!!!!!!!

SteveTheCowboy · Nov 28, 2020

kskboys said:
The passing yardage leader has NEVER won the super bowl.

Huge passing yards is not how you win it all.

With a few exceptions, it's a sign of a dysfunctional team. It often means you can't run the ball...and in our division....that's bad.

kskboys · Nov 28, 2020

RonnieT24 said:
Are you sure about this? I could have sworn it has happened at least once.. Maybe Peyton's first? Still balance is, was and always will be the key to winning it all. You have to be able to do both at a high level to get to the promised land. One can be better than the other.. but you can't absolutely SUCK at one thing while being great at the other and expect to get it done. The good news is that if the line is healthy, and Dak is healthy this team will be able to run it and throw it with the best of them next year. The key of course will be the defense.. They simply cannot remain in the bottom 5 of the league. I think when I researched it a couple of weeks ago there had been only a handful of teams who have won it all while giving up more than 20 points a game. Meanwhile we have a team giving up 30+. That aint gonna cut it. Somehow this defense has to shave at least 15 points a game off its scoring average next year. Seems like a tall order.. but we have to keep in mind that unlike the offense, the defense is having to learn a completely new system on top of all the guys in and out of the lineup. So I'm gonna give them a half a pass for this year. Covid really gave them no chance to be a good defense this year.

Oh, and Brees barely beat out PManning for passing yds in 06, so it was very close.

conner01 · Nov 28, 2020

Wizarus said:
The Cowboys wasnt exactly stellar when he was playing either. This team is just bad right now.

I don’t think we know if this team is good or bad
So call it excuses but no team is going to be good with the injuries we’ve had
We’ve started 4 QB’s
Go look at our depth chart this week and see names of this weeks backup and see if you had any idea who they were
There is no way to overcome the injuries of this season
And yet if not for turnovers we might still be ahead in this division

rnr_honeybadger · Nov 28, 2020

RonnieT24 said:
On what planet is averaging 36 points a game in a four game stretch "almost nothing?" Or how does "almost nothing" track with having the lead in the second half in 4 of the 5 games Dak started. The ONLY exception being Cleveland. And two of the turnovers against the Browns were at midfield. And if I'm not mistaken neither of them had anything to do with Dak.. unless you wanted him to sprint downfield and recover Schutlz and Zeke's fumbles? And would it be asking too much of the defense to maybe hold them to a FG? And how is Dak to be blamed for the two failed ******* fake punts against ATL? Are we blaming Dalton for the one on Thursday? And maybe the defense could hold a lead? I mean they FINALLY did it against the Vikings.. but go ahead and try and convince me that you had ANY confidence they would top Minny when they got the ball back.. Cause I sure as hell didn't..

You seem to have trouble reading. So I will say, read that statement you highlighted and go slow and make sure you process each word. Until then this discussion is about as useful as me trying to teach advanced string theory to a fence post.

JJHLH1 · Nov 28, 2020

Gangsta Spanksta said:
So let me ask you this: If Dak were the starting QB and gets taken out the very first play of the game, then you would consider that him winning the game as well?

Yes.

Of course it can work against the starting QB as well.

For example Dak started the last regular season game against the Eagles during his rookie year of 2016. He only played the first series as the coaches didn’t want to risk injury since they already had home field advantage secured. Romo only played one series as well. Mark Sanchez played most of the game and although he caused the loss with his poor play, the loss was counted against Dak since he started the game.

rnr_honeybadger · Nov 28, 2020

Excluding 2020 season, Dak Prescott has played 18 games against teams that finished the regular season with over 10 wins. He is 5-13 in those games with 22TDs and 19 INTs. How the hell do a anyone consider giving out a 35 million a year contract for this?

America's Cowboy · Nov 28, 2020

kskboys said:
They posted this on Colin Cowherd's show one time, so I assumed it was accurate.

Balance, yup. Most of the time the passing yards leader is on a one dimensional O, and usually w/ a poor D.

Check this out:

08: 5,069
09: 4,388
10: 4,620

Passing yards, Drew Brees. Won the super bowl in 09. Not only that, but as the starter for NO, the 09 season was his lowest passing yds total from 06 thru the 2016 season. That's 11 seasons.

Volume passing yards keeps you from the super bowl!!!!!!!!!!!!

(In bold^^^): That's not necessarily true.

Kurt Warner led the Rams to the Super Bowl both in 1999 and 2001.

Warner's passing yards each season:

1999: 4,353 with 41 TDs
2001: 4,830 with 36 TDs

Jared Goff also led the Rams to a Super Bowl in 2018.

Goff's passing yards that season:

2018: 4,688 with 32 TDs

As one can see, both Rams QBs ran a pass-heavy Offense while passing for 32+ TDs in each Super Bowl birthed seasons (1999, 2001 & 2018). It pretty much shows a Super Bowl can be reached with a successful pass-heavy Offense.

Our backup QB’s are now 1-5

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