Cooper’s on pace for a career high

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again how many big games has AC showed in, cant remember one..not one

Dez still tops the list at 5 you diminish his accomplishments is why we are here, Dez had better career as DC and DC are who we are supposed to support..it easy huh? did you check the list of like 200 WRs Stats and hes 5 the names hes above is quite impressive and you said he only had 3 good years but those 3years weren't good they were as good as any HOF PB player stts one could ever put up ie ELITE Years 3 are not a falsh inthe pan , he added big plays on Punt returns and being #1 in TDs is like not thing all of sudden..

dude again you are clueless , I like AC but hes on pace for his best season going on 6 years on the league and its not going to be close to what Dez did and he did it 3 years in row ..but 8 years he had 3 Elite seasons 3-5 good to average and a few bad ones and? sounds lie a lot of players careers, the important stat is hes ahead of MANY BIG TIME Names thats come through here top 5 and #1 in TDS

id say that heck of career fans like you sweep under the carpet because you didnt like his attitude and off field issues..sounds familiar??.. Injuries' took a toll on him late in his career and also changing from Romo to Dak , he and dak didnt mix Dak doesnt throw open player and is afraid to throw a prefect ball to covered player and let him go get it.. he has to have player like AC who can get more open and that why they mixed..but that for another argument. Romo >Dak :))

I hope AC dominates hes now a cowboy but hes not been Cowboy and Dez was homegrown, im taking Dez those 3 years over any one year of AC..again AC sometimes i have to go look at stat line because he just doesn't do anything memorable and i can forget he made any plays..he needs to score more, PERIOD..
Scored against the rams in the playoffs.
 

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Cooper had 200 yards against the eagles and Washington. All division games are big.
 

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For certain Dak is not as good at those as Romo was at the end. But if you recall Romo wasn't all that great at them early in his run either. It's a skill that seems to take a minute to perfect. I do think Dak is better now than he was as a rook.. In fact I've said many times that if we could put this Dak in the time machine and put him with 2016-2017 Dez we'd see some really great results.

Without a doubt, dez would look a lot better. But that is why the dez conversation is a strange one. The 7 year vet WR should make the rookie qb look better. Where as, we are talking about a 4-5 year vet qb going back in time to make a WR look better

Which shows dez's limitations without the right surroundings

Coop who runs a full route tree, and gets seperation, would be open to a rookie QB
 

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Without a doubt, dez would look a lot better. But that is why the dez conversation is a strange one. The 7 year vet WR should make the rookie qb look better. Where as, we are talking about a 4-5 year vet qb going back in time to make a WR look better

Which shows dez's limitations without the right surroundings

No receiver can throw himself the ball. Every WR has that same limitation .. if the QB can't put the ball where he needs it to be he's not going to produce. Because Dez was never a big separation guy while rookie and second year Dak was not a throw it to a covered receiver guy they were a bad marriage. Dak didn't trust Dez to go up and make a play for him and he also didn't trust himself to get the ball where it needed to be. It's not something that needs to "blame" one guy or the other.. It was just reality. Ironically Dez finds himself in a similar spot in Baltimore. Lamar is even less polished as a passer than Dak was.. but maybe he will eventually become more willing to throw it up and let Dez make a play. I hope he does.. Dez is fun to watch..
 

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No receiver can throw himself the ball. Every WR has that same limitation .. if the QB can't put the ball where he needs it to be he's not going to produce. Because Dez was never a big separation guy while rookie and second year Dak was not a throw it to a covered receiver guy they were a bad marriage. Dak didn't trust Dez to go up and make a play for him and he also didn't trust himself to get the ball where it needed to be. It's not something that needs to "blame" one guy or the other.. It was just reality. Ironically Dez finds himself in a similar spot in Baltimore. Lamar is even less polished as a passer than Dak was.. but maybe he will eventually become more willing to throw it up and let Dez make a play. I hope he does.. Dez is fun to watch..

He is fun to watch. It would be cool if he could be how antwain boulden was in his later career and in balitmore. Tuff yards, and reliable

Lamars scrambling ability might end up being really good for dez, and will help him get open
 

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He is fun to watch. It would be cool if he could be how antwain boulden was in his later career and in balitmore. Tuff yards, and reliable

Lamars scrambling ability might end up being really good for dez, and will help him get open

That's a good point. Dez is going to make a very attractive target in the scramble drill.
 

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Scored against the rams in the playoffs.
game winner? what happened in the 4th qtr when we needed a core..dont think anyone ever got us over the hump..period..we were down lie int eh philly game last year down one score for like the entire second half where was dak and coop? gone unless it was Washington, ny, other chat teams.. seriously where are these big wins when the team since mid season last year is like 7-17 now???

dak 3-5 to finish the season and 1-3 top open where was coops scoring?

wow this dynamic duos is killings it.. glad we have this dynamic 3 WR set to lose closer games :)) man those yards are pretty:rolleyes:o_O
 

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Without a doubt, dez would look a lot better. But that is why the dez conversation is a strange one. The 7 year vet WR should make the rookie qb look better. Where as, we are talking about a 4-5 year vet qb going back in time to make a WR look better

Which shows dez's limitations without the right surroundings

Coop who runs a full route tree, and gets seperation, would be open to a rookie QB

There are vids of TO and Dez TD plays. What jumps out watching Dez's after TO's is how TO got *so* much more separation. Romo and Dez relied on Romo throwing Dez open, and Dez catching it in traffic.

Romo got production out of very marginal players, and made good players better. He carried a lot of careers. Any WR have any success post Romo? Lots simply evaporated.
 

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.... and the Cowboys 3-8 at the bottom of the worst division in the NFL
 

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He’s on his way to get 100 catches and 1200 plus yards.

Pretty good for playing most games with backup QBs.

Zeke has a poor season, and the oline gets blamed.

The same oline that is trying to block for the backup QBs throwing to Cooper, as he heads to his most productive season.

Cooper just doesn't get enough credit.
 

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Great wr. Don't understand why some don't see this.

The usual beef we see with Cooper is that he goes away in big games against stout defenses.

This is understandable as his quarterback goes AWOL in those situations and Cooper suffers as a result.

This wouldn’t happen if he was on KC, GB, Pitt, or Nola and many other teams. He would shine even more
 

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Stats...stats....
I would trade 1200 yards in receptions
for a 6-5 record.
 

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There are vids of TO and Dez TD plays. What jumps out watching Dez's after TO's is how TO got *so* much more separation. Romo and Dez relied on Romo throwing Dez open, and Dez catching it in traffic.

Romo got production out of very marginal players, and made good players better. He carried a lot of careers. Any WR have any success post Romo? Lots simply evaporated.

My favorite romo throws were when the camera would go to him, he would crank back and release it, the camera would follow the ball, and there was TO 5 yards past the corner running clean for a TD. For a while is seemed like it happened every game
 

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My favorite romo throws were when the camera would go to him, he would crank back and release it, the camera would follow the ball, and there was TO 5 yards past the corner running clean for a TD. For a while is seemed like it happened every game

Pretty consistent 3+ yard separation for TO on the TD passes. Obviously a biased sample, but damn.
 

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Ok Steve if I have to break it down for you since my grammar and typing skills don't meet your standard. I don't think that particular post was the one I typed that was hard to understand but maybe it is. It was a joke perhaps I need the sarcasm emoji so you know I'm not serious. basically I'm saying as a forum we are pretty hard on everybody that's what fans do. We overhype and underappreciate and we put our allegiances on certain players (don't listen to anyone telling you they don't. Players get more latitude based on how much they like them and we see now much they get paid and perform in relation to it).

Now back to my humor I referenced that everyone gets hate then made a joke "oh wait i cant bash Zeke" The last sentence that included FIFY. That's my disclaimer its ok to bash Zeke. You are right about one thing I have been on Zeke for awhile It was a stupid pick to begin with but when he started being part of the problem on a bigger level yes I've been letting him have it. Especially the last 2 years and I am probably going to continue every time its valid in my mind because he's simply not one of my favorite players. I will try to be objective about things and ill root for him on Sunday though. I think anyone who post here regularly is aware of where I stand on zeke by now.

Why isnt he one of my favorites
a. He was billed as this great 3 down back that does everything well all phases of the game and hes good not great. I think his production could have been equaled by several backs and I didn't like the pick to begin with. The line was our engine. His selection in my mind set the team back not propelled us forward.
b. I think he's somewhat of an horses patoot. He's in trouble with the league and his dumb--- is out at bars getting involved with fights let alone whether the initial accusation was true or not I don't know .wrong approach in my mind.
3. Mr 3 down back seems to want a blow at in opportune times
4. That crap he pulled with the contract and his regression

Jerry is at fault here with all all of it. He shouldn't have been the pick at 4 and he most definitely shouldn't have been extended. You are just to over sensitive about him. You don't defend Dak like you do him probably because he didn't go to OSU. Or because youre a borderline Romo lover and are disappointed in how that ended either way there's a clear difference in how you respond to Zeke critics vs the rest of the organization but that's your prerogative its all good.

Did I mention I despise OSU! It all in fun Steve at the end of the day 2020 has been a crap year both in real life and in fandom. I despise the lakers also but at least my Dodgers won.
It's all good star. I don't think we need to carry this out any further. We know where we stand.

I defended Romo just as much. The haters weren;t QUITE as personally insulting to ROm o OR "his fans". It bother me I have to put that in quotes. Perfectly normal to have more favorite players than others. But pure vitriol is something that is hard for me to deal with. I don't lump you in with that....just an occasional toe tap...as you say more in fun than anything else. It's cool.

And you are A-Okay in my book.
 

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It's all good star. I don't think we need to carry this out any further. We know where we stand.

I defended Romo just as much. The haters weren;t QUITE as personally insulting to ROm o OR "his fans". It bother me I have to put that in quotes. Perfectly normal to have more favorite players than others. But pure vitriol is something that is hard for me to deal with. I don't lump you in with that....just an occasional toe tap...as you say more in fun than anything else. It's cool.

And you are A-Okay in my book.
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