Troy Aikman's comments on the draft last night

Ken · Dec 9, 2020

jnday said:
With a record of 6-11 over the last 17 games says a lot more to me than some garbage stats that don’t translate to wins.

k.

Look how the rest of the parts have performed since he went down. Looks like he was holding the whole thing together to me.

DallasDW00ds0n · Dec 9, 2020

Streetwise said:
Not this season, this season when Prescott started we did not have "slow starts" on a consistent basis. So, the "garbage time" idea isn't accurate.

That’s just factually incorrect. But I’m not suggesting Dak isn’t good or that he doesn’t deserve credit for bringing us back into games; not just anyone can do that.

just rip off a couple games here, half time scores:

ATL- 29 Dal- 10
SEA- 23 Dal- 15
CLE- 31 Dal- 14

Giants game he obviously didn’t finish and STL game we managed only 3 points in the second and I distinctly remember a box coming on the screen saying we had 15 yards in the final 10 plays of the game. And in the spirit of talking about opening the game not the closing, we started the season with a punt.

Look I’m not bashing Dak, I like Dak, I’m merely suggesting it may not be for the best to use all our resources just to keep him with so many other issues, and keeping in mind we weren’t exactly doing well with him.

basel90 · Dec 9, 2020

i respect Aikman a lot , but his TV and media comments are puzzling sometimes. His opinions fluctuate all the time. He used to criticize Dak for inaccurate passes etc then he says he is the best the cowboys can have , same for Lamar yesterday . So not sure if he is playing politics due to his job requiring access and proximity to these QBs.

G2 · Dec 9, 2020

DallasDW00ds0n said:
That’s just factually incorrect. But I’m not suggesting Dak isn’t good or that he doesn’t deserve credit for bringing us back into games; not just anyone can do that.

just rip off a couple games here, half time scores:

ATL- 29 Dal- 10
SEA- 23 Dal- 15
CLE- 31 Dal- 14

Giants game he obviously didn’t finish and STL game we managed only 3 points in the second and I distinctly remember a box coming on the screen saying we had 15 yards in the final 10 plays of the game. And in the spirit of talking about opening the game not the closing, we started the season with a punt.

Look I’m not bashing Dak, I like Dak, I’m merely suggesting it may not be for the best to use all our resources just to keep him with so many other issues, and keeping in mind we weren’t exactly doing well with him.

We should be fair and include all the games he started.
LA game we were up at the half.
NYG we were up 24-20 at the half.
See? It's not as extreme as some suggest. Especially when you consider we beat Atlanta, who really cares if you found a way to win? With this historically awful defense. But I digress.

The risk of finding another QB scares me. I'm judging by the history. After Aikman and before Romo? Dark times.....

Shane612 · Dec 9, 2020

Rockport said:
You say you understand but you're willing to roll the dice anyways? What if he's another Schliter, Couch, Schuler, Akili Smith, Leaf or Jamarcus Russell? It will set you back for years. I could go on and on about 1st rd busts.

Doesn't have be a 1st round pick.
Four of the best QBs in NFL history were drafted way past the 2nd round.
And I know two pretty good ones who weren't drafted at all.

Praxit · Dec 9, 2020

..oh I see then. Drafting a QB would be cheaper than keeping Dak. Rolling the dice though. How QB's top pick QB's have turned out disappointments?

buybuydandavis · Dec 9, 2020

jazzcat22 said:
Now Troy has said he likes what he has seen in Dak. He has said this several times.

However, last night he said, if you are in position to take one of the QB's at the top of the draft, you must do so. And I can't disagree.
...
So Dak on the verge of being tagged at $37 million or set to make $35 to $40 million a year.

Drafting a starting QB is such a huge cap advantage, and it's gotten more so as the QB take ever higher percentage of cap. Kept us out of cap hell when Tony/Dez/Williams were done. Put us in great cap shape until we spent it poorly on bad contracts.

It's too huge an advantage. And it's coming just as we'd need to sign Dak, and an in year where the cap will *decline*.

jjktkk · Dec 9, 2020

Rockport said:
Sure it does when you already have a franchise QB. One that has led the NFL in team offense the last 2 years.

A franchise QB that can be upgraded.

LovinItAll · Dec 9, 2020

jazzcat22 said:
Now Troy has said he likes what he has seen in Dak. He has said this several times.

However, last night he said, if you are in position to take one of the QB's at the top of the draft, you must do so. And I can't disagree.

Did anyone else hear this?
What do you all think about it?

I know many will agree, as some will disagree with this statement.

I stated several times, you have to consider it, no way you can not discard this theory.
Yo have a QB that is good to very good, but just seems to be missing something at times. I felt the same about Tony Romo.

So Dak on the verge of being tagged at $37 million or set to make $35 to $40 million a year. Now I won't get into the salary cap ramifications on that, but understand the thinking from many fans about it.
So a franchise QB is there, you get at a 5 year far less impact on the cap.

Can this QB do right away what Dak will do when he returns healthy from his injury. But yet still the same issues, no defense. Though I think a new DC will be better than a 3rd pick overall on defense.

What are your thoughts as of this morning.
Right now, as usual, I will wait until the end of the season, see where we pick. I do like Dak, but I am leaning very much too selecting a QB.

No. If we can't get Trevor, we can't take a QB. Anyone else is a coin flip. Dak isn't a coin flip.

Hoofbite · Dec 9, 2020

blumayne38 said:
Don’t poo poo on my hopes so soon

Earl Thomas is still out there. A few good picks on the DL next season. Plus a good QB and I’m back to believe land.

Teams are avoiding Thomas like the plague. Something is not right with that man.

Hawkeye0202 · Dec 9, 2020

John813 said:
If Zach Wilson is still there I would take him unless Dak signed a new deal.
Would be a waste of assets though if Dak did sign a new deal though.

+1...IF by draft day, Dak's long-term deal isn't done, I'm probably going QB also.

Hoofbite · Dec 9, 2020

Rayman70 said:
Dak is the heart of this team.

That's true, but you have to do what is best for the entire team or else you don't have a team. I'm in the trade for the moon camp if Dallas is in a position to take top 2 or 3 QBs. Somebody more desperate will give you a lot.

Verdict · Dec 9, 2020

Pantone282C said:
Have to agree. Not saying we will actually get Lawrence. Probably won't unless they trade away some draft capital and some current players. If we get Lawrence, then we have trade value with Dak or Lawrence.
We really need some premier DTs and DBs.

It would surprise me more than a little if we moved up to draft Lawrence.

blumayne38 · Dec 9, 2020

Hoofbite said:
Teams are avoiding Thomas like the plague. Something is not right with that man.

Idk but I know the man can still play. Even if he lost a step...his instincts alone are far better then woods.

Zekeats · Dec 9, 2020

Streetwise said:
Not really a realistic point. Favre was at the end of his career, Prescott has continued to improve year after year. We don't need one. We need defenders.

And again, no one knows there is a "stud" in the draft at QB.

If there’s a stud qb there u take him no matter what end of story

Hoofbite · Dec 9, 2020

blumayne38 said:
Idk but I know the man can still play. Even if he lost a step...his instincts alone are far better then woods.

It doesn't matter if he can still play.

JonesBoys · Dec 9, 2020

jazzcat22 said:
Now Troy has said he likes what he has seen in Dak. He has said this several times.

However, last night he said, if you are in position to take one of the QB's at the top of the draft, you must do so. And I can't disagree.

Did anyone else hear this?
What do you all think about it?

I know many will agree, as some will disagree with this statement.

I stated several times, you have to consider it, no way you can not discard this theory.
Yo have a QB that is good to very good, but just seems to be missing something at times. I felt the same about Tony Romo.

So Dak on the verge of being tagged at $37 million or set to make $35 to $40 million a year. Now I won't get into the salary cap ramifications on that, but understand the thinking from many fans about it.
So a franchise QB is there, you get at a 5 year far less impact on the cap.

Can this QB do right away what Dak will do when he returns healthy from his injury. But yet still the same issues, no defense. Though I think a new DC will be better than a 3rd pick overall on defense.

What are your thoughts as of this morning.
Right now, as usual, I will wait until the end of the season, see where we pick. I do like Dak, but I am leaning very much too selecting a QB.

Then we can hear about the window with the rookie contract and how they have to capitalize only to squander away the opportunity again? You forget Jerrah is running this team.

nobody · Dec 9, 2020

lukin2006 said:
The defence played poorly. The offence was lighting things up...

That's a simplistic way of looking at it. All three phases of the game affect the other... so if the offense starts slow, it puts the defense on the field more, exhausting them early, driving up the opponents score...which causes the offense to go into catchup mode which means TOP drops as they try to score fast, which puts the defense on the field longer again. Sure, the defense has been at epic levels of suck this season, but constant slow starts by the offense for years has NOT helped the defense at all.

Then you take into account the play of special teams....which is its own can of worms.

gimmesix · Dec 9, 2020

If we end up with a top three pick, I believe that we should seek someone who will trade a lot for the right to select one of the quarterbacks or take one of the quarterbacks if we can't find a trade partner. I also believe we should franchise Dak in case of this scenario. Then, we look at what other teams are willing to give us for one of these two quarterbacks. It's possible that we could recoup a quality starter plus premium picks.

I want to have multiple early picks and I want us to use them all on defense. But in order to do that, you have to find a trade partner, and that's not always easy.

plymkr · Dec 9, 2020

Shane612 said:
Doesn't have be a 1st round pick.
Four of the best QBs in NFL history were drafted way past the 2nd round.
And I know two pretty good ones who weren't drafted at all.

Actually a lot of QBs that are good were not 1st rounders. We can pick up a QB without using a top 5 pick and still have our franchise QB on the roster. We could copy the Chargers model. They drafted Drew Brees in the 2nd round, then drafted Rivers while still having Brees. Brees got hurt and traded to saints and the Chargers didn't miss a beat with Rivers taking over.

It can be done. I'd feel much more confident if we had a real GM and FO like the Chargers did to pull it off. But it can be done.

But overall I think the point that you have to draft a QB high is not accurate. Many examples of bad 1st round QBs can be given, as well as good 1st rounders. It's a gamble. Dallas is in a spot that they can take BPA, as long as it's not a WR, and make a case the team is better.

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