Troy Aikman's comments on the draft last night

At the 3rd or 4th pick, who are the top QB's?

Streetwise said:

That's not really true. When Prescott was playing the offensive was ranked at the top. Now, it's embarrassing.

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We had our starting O line with Dak. Blocking matters for a QB. We are down to our 3rd string tackles!

jazzcat22 said:

Now Troy has said he likes what he has seen in Dak. He has said this several times.

However, last night he said, if you are in position to take one of the QB's at the top of the draft, you must do so. And I can't disagree.

Did anyone else hear this?
What do you all think about it?

I know many will agree, as some will disagree with this statement.

I stated several times, you have to consider it, no way you can not discard this theory.
Yo have a QB that is good to very good, but just seems to be missing something at times. I felt the same about Tony Romo.

So Dak on the verge of being tagged at $37 million or set to make $35 to $40 million a year. Now I won't get into the salary cap ramifications on that, but understand the thinking from many fans about it.
So a franchise QB is there, you get at a 5 year far less impact on the cap.

Can this QB do right away what Dak will do when he returns healthy from his injury. But yet still the same issues, no defense. Though I think a new DC will be better than a 3rd pick overall on defense.

What are your thoughts as of this morning.
Right now, as usual, I will wait until the end of the season, see where we pick. I do like Dak, but I am leaning very much too selecting a QB.

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Troy also went on about how good connor williams is lol, so I dont think much of his opinions.
it is too early to talk about drafting, wait till after cowboys are done and see what their position actually is.

Also with the bozo's we have making the picks, do you really think they will pick a good qb??
Everyone goes on about trevor, but the real gem may be on down the list, you just have to see that.

Dallas mindset appears to be to 'Excite" the fans with offense while doing little to help the defense..Just remember for every score you give up in sports, you need TWO scores to take the lead.. Offense is pretty, but defense keeps you in games and wins championships.

Do you realize that the same people talking about how we should take a QB early are the same idiots that said that there was little difference between Dak and Dalton? Instead of defending their moronic positions, they just change the subject.

1st it was: Dallas is not losing anything with Dak out and Dallas will be a playoff team.
2nd it was: Dallas should go after Lawrence
3rd it was: Dallas won a game so Dalton is clearly the answer
4th it is: Dallas should just spend a first round pick to get a QB.

here is a good example of a cowboys draft and players they overlooked, didnt think much of etc.
Cowboys could have got mahomes if they had seen how good a player he was , but they didnt think he was that good , and probably thought
dak was better than mahomes.
In the 2017 draft, jags had the # 4 pick, and they picked fournette, so it was possible we could have traded them elliot for that # 4 pick and
they would take him.
Then we take mahomes before KC can get him at # 10.
If you look at this draft it is interesting, we could have replaced elliot with dalvin cook or alvin kamara.
Cowboys chose ryan switzer over george kittle lol
Awuzie over juju smith
taco over dalvin cook

trubisky was the # 2 pick, and he turned out to be a dud, not total bust but a dud, and cowboys could pick a guy like him.
Truth is I think other areas need to be fixed before dallas gets a qb, and for same reason it is not smart to sign dak to big deal.
Dallas has so many issues, they cant compete for the next few years, so why sign dak or draft a qb, they are not going to a sb.
They need a better DC and to fix the defense 1st, after that get a better OC and maybe HC, some new OL, and then look at qb's

here is the 2017 draft, dont know if this will show up right. look at the teams who picked before mahomes, and what they got.

Rnd. Pick # NFL team Player Pos. College Conf. Notes

1 1 Cleveland Browns Myles Garrett † DE Texas A&M SEC

1 2 Chicago Bears Mitchell Trubisky † QB North Carolina ACC from San Francisco [R1 - 1]

1 3 San Francisco 49ers Solomon Thomas DE Stanford Pac-12 from Chicago [R1 - 2]

1 4 Jacksonville Jaguars Leonard Fournette RB LSU SEC

1 5 Tennessee Titans Corey Davis WR Western Michigan MAC from LA Rams [R1 - 3]

1 6 New York Jets Jamal Adams † S LSU SEC

1 7 Los Angeles Chargers Mike Williams WR Clemson ACC

1 8 Carolina Panthers Christian McCaffrey † RB Stanford Pac-12

1 9 Cincinnati Bengals John Ross WR Washington Pac-12

1 10 Kansas City Chiefs Patrick Mahomes † QB Texas Tech Big 12 from Buffalo [R1 - 4]

1 11 New Orleans Saints Marshon Lattimore † CB Ohio State Big Ten

1 12 Houston Texans Deshaun Watson † QB Clemson ACC from Philadelphia via Cleveland [R1 - 5]

1 13 Arizona Cardinals Haason Reddick LB Temple The American

1 14 Philadelphia Eagles Derek Barnett DE Tennessee SEC from Minnesota [R1 - 6]

1 15 Indianapolis Colts Malik Hooker S Ohio State Big Ten

1 16 Baltimore Ravens Marlon Humphrey † CB Alabama SEC

1 17 Washington Commanders Jonathan Allen DE Alabama SEC

1 18 Tennessee Titans Adoree' Jackson CB USC Pac-12

1 19 Tampa Bay Buccaneers O. J. Howard TE Alabama SEC

1 20 Denver Broncos Garett Bolles OT Utah Pac-12

1 21 Detroit Lions Jarrad Davis LB Florida SEC

1 22 Miami Dolphins Charles Harris DE Missouri SEC

1 23 New York Giants Evan Engram TE Ole Miss SEC

1 24 Oakland Raiders Gareon Conley CB Ohio State Big Ten

1 25 Cleveland Browns Jabrill Peppers S Michigan Big Ten from Houston [R1 - 7]

1 26 Atlanta Falcons Takkarist McKinley DE UCLA Pac-12 from Seattle [R1 - 8]

1 27 Buffalo Bills Tre'Davious White † CB LSU SEC from Kansas City [R1 - 9]

1 28 Dallas Cowboys Taco Charlton DE Michigan Big Ten

1 29 Cleveland Browns David Njoku TE Miami (FL) ACC from Green Bay [R1 - 10]

1 30 Pittsburgh Steelers T. J. Watt † LB Wisconsin Big Ten

1 31 San Francisco 49ers Reuben Foster LB Alabama SEC from Atlanta via Seattle [R1 - 11]

1 32 New Orleans Saints Ryan Ramczyk † OT Wisconsin Big Ten from New England [R1 - 12]

jazzcat22 said:

Now Troy has said he likes what he has seen in Dak. He has said this several times.

However, last night he said, if you are in position to take one of the QB's at the top of the draft, you must do so. And I can't disagree.

Did anyone else hear this?
What do you all think about it?

I know many will agree, as some will disagree with this statement.

I stated several times, you have to consider it, no way you can not discard this theory.
Yo have a QB that is good to very good, but just seems to be missing something at times. I felt the same about Tony Romo.

So Dak on the verge of being tagged at $37 million or set to make $35 to $40 million a year. Now I won't get into the salary cap ramifications on that, but understand the thinking from many fans about it.
So a franchise QB is there, you get at a 5 year far less impact on the cap.

Can this QB do right away what Dak will do when he returns healthy from his injury. But yet still the same issues, no defense. Though I think a new DC will be better than a 3rd pick overall on defense.

What are your thoughts as of this morning.
Right now, as usual, I will wait until the end of the season, see where we pick. I do like Dak, but I am leaning very much too selecting a QB.

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You could also trade down and end up with 6 defensive starters cheaply for 4-5 years. And I trust the Cowboys more with draft capital than cap space looking at their track record in free agency vs the draft.

Sevenup3000 said:

Do you realize that the same people talking about how we should take a QB early are the same idiots that said that there was little difference between Dak and Dalton? Instead of defending their moronic positions, they just change the subject.

1st it was: Dallas is not losing anything with Dak out and Dallas will be a playoff team.
2nd it was: Dallas should go after Lawrence
3rd it was: Dallas won a game so Dalton is clearly the answer
4th it is: Dallas should just spend a first round pick to get a QB.

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Exactly. If anyone can do what Dak can do just spend all the early picks on defense and get another qb in the 4th or something.

Captain43Crash said:

We had our starting O line with Dak. Blocking matters for a QB. We are down to our 3rd string tackles!

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We never had our starting oline with Dak because Collins never played a game. Tyron Smith only played a game and a half.

If this team was ready to win but was missing a QB, yeah, take a QB. This team has much higher needs than the QB position. This team needs a huge influx of talent on defense and that high first round pick is a very good start.

Dak may have his flaws just like a lot of other guys, but he’s a top ten NFL QB or better.

The quickest way to turn this around is to keep Dak and use the high pick on elite def.

Aven8 said:

No chance at Lawrence so what’s the point? I’m not opposed to taking one in the 2nd however.

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They could always package a deal for Lawrence. Ship 3 #1 picks to the jets and maybe a 2nd to move up. Its not that much when you think about what they have done with their #1 picks anyways.

The Quest for Six said:

Jimmy Johnson said the same thing about selecting a top notch QB if there during the draft during the pre game show...

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Right . But Jimmy also said he’d keep Dak while drafting a QB.

If a QB is best player at our slot , take him while still signing Dak.

If there’s not an impact defensive player in top 5 pick why reach for it?

A top QB could bring future draft equity like Walsh did in 1990 .

We don’t know how Dak will respond to injury. Jimmy Johnson recommends to resign or franchise tag Dak again while drafting a QB.

DandyDon52 said:

Troy also went on about how good connor williams is lol, so I dont think much of his opinions.
it is too early to talk about drafting, wait till after cowboys are done and see what their position actually is.

Also with the bozo's we have making the picks, do you really think they will pick a good qb??
Everyone goes on about trevor, but the real gem may be on down the list, you just have to see that.

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Well, there’s several good QB’s coming out. Possibly up to 6 or 7 taken in 1st round. We could trade down for additional picks and still select one while resigning Dak as Jimmy Johnson and later Aikman also suggested.

Our most desperate needs don't include the QB position now. I'm doubtful it will be dealt with this year. CB, safety, OL and LB are probably the four most desperate needs to be addressed in the draft this year. Depending upon availability when our picks are due, they might not be chosen in that order. I'd await the year's end and let the chips fall where those in control of the upcoming draft opt to go. Many things can occur between now and then.

You never know with QB's. I mean we all wanted Wentz after he went 2nd overall and a 4th round QB is much better than him. We don't even have a chance at the best QB in the draft. What's the point? But knowing Jerry, he might still draft a QB.

Diehardblues said:

Well, there’s several good QB’s coming out. Possibly up to 6 or 7 taken in 1st round. We could trade down for additional picks and still select one while resigning Dak as Jimmy Johnson and later Aikman also suggested.

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well I dont know , I dont watch college ball, but my point is evaluation is the key.
maybe none of these guys will be good in nfl, maybe several are, maybe one is a mahomes type, but unless cowboys can evaluate properly,
they wont know which one to take, or will take the wrong one.

I think when KC took mahomes, they knew pretty much what they were getting, good eval on him.
They were the only ones, or mahomes would have been picked before # 10.
It is possible mahomes could have slipped into the 2nd round because other teams did not see him as special, and he wasnt celebrated qb.
But KC knew , and didnt want to risk waiting, so they took him at 10.

I doubt mahomes was even on the 2017 dallas board, which should tell you something about the people making the boards, and picks.
KC is picking the right guys in draft and FA, and that is why they are so good.

Tyreek Hill was drafted by the Kansas City Chiefs in the 5th round of the 2016 NFL Draft so nobody really saw him as valuable lol.
Look at who we drafted in that draft, Dak was one of the 4th round picks, but dallas could have had him, but doubt they would have turned
him into the threat he is today.

yentl911 said:

Ian Book - trade down for picks

that kid is going to be really good

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Dont like him. Arm not good enough - hes another Powlus. Not NFL calliber. Wins because he has good players around him.

I think the one point that is being missed here is that whenever a new head coach is brought in he wants to draft his guy at QB but sometimes the situation doesn't present itself as so. McCarthy now has a qb coming back from a major injury and the opportunity to draft his QB put his stamp on this team by selecting one at the top of the draft. I don't think he'd pass on that especially with the heat he's getting from the local media about his choice in defensive coaches. I agree one player will not turn this thing around immediately but one thing is for certain that pick inside the top 3 will have to be a marquee name with extraordinary ability because the level of scrutiny he'll be under will be enormous. I say if you're top 3 I am doing what ever I have to do to get Lawrence because he's the only sure fire pick I'd put my career on the line for.

DandyDon52 said:

well I dont know , I dont watch college ball, but my point is evaluation is the key.
maybe none of these guys will be good in nfl, maybe several are, maybe one is a mahomes type, but unless cowboys can evaluate properly,
they wont know which one to take, or will take the wrong one.

I think when KC took mahomes, they knew pretty much what they were getting, good eval on him.
They were the only ones, or mahomes would have been picked before # 10.
It is possible mahomes could have slipped into the 2nd round because other teams did not see him as special, and he wasnt celebrated qb.
But KC knew , and didnt want to risk waiting, so they took him at 10.

I doubt mahomes was even on the 2017 dallas board, which should tell you something about the people making the boards, and picks.
KC is picking the right guys in draft and FA, and that is why they are so good.

Tyreek Hill was drafted by the Kansas City Chiefs in the 5th round of the 2016 NFL Draft so nobody really saw him as valuable lol.
Look at who we drafted in that draft, Dak was one of the 4th round picks, but dallas could have had him, but doubt they would have turned
him into the threat he is today.

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Andy Reid absolutely stole Hill from the rest of the league he got lucky because Hill came with baggage. He dropped in the draft because some domestic dispute with his girlfriend in college and charges were filed so Hill draft stock plummeted because of it.