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EST_1986 said:
Watch the Redzone, 7 hours of commercial free football
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Honestly I use DAZN. 20 bucks a month and I get everything soccer related (which is my sport) and all football games and redzone. I also get boxing, UFC, etc. So it think its worthwhile. And stops the stupid commercials.
 
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BobbyFlame469 said:
Nobody watches live tv anymore. It has nothing to do with politics or whatever crap people with questionable agendas want to believe so bad.


We’re in the Netflix era
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I wouldn't say "has NOTHING to do with"... it does but it's not the only reason and I agree on the streaming. There is more interesting content on the streaming services, etc. Football has become a watered-down flag and delay-fest. Multiple factors IMO.
 
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Don't know if you've been following this but the thinking that a captive audience would be a ratings bonanza has not happened and in fact the TV nets are doing make goods and discounting the rates because of the 25% drop in viewership. It was off almost 50% on Thanksgiving. This is unheard of to be discounting rates on the NFL.

In case you haven't noticed, the commercial load has increased and the same tired ATT, Progressive, State Farm, Toyota ads are hard to avoid along with every prescription drug with s=ide effects as bad as what they're designed for. It is overkill to the point of really being interested in the game to stay with it. I find myself drifting and checking out what's going on elsewhere.

There are several reasons floating out there, one of which we cannot discuss here, but I do not think this is temporary, I think the NFL and the nets are going to have to adjust to what I think the real enemy is, choices. And I have seen some ad men addressing this as the challenge.

TV nets don't usually try to counter NFL programming and in fact will promote games on other nets but the new kids on the block, Netflix, Amazon, Apple, Disney, Hulu, Peacock and HBO MAX don't have to worry about that, they just keep cranking out the productions. And advertising them during the games.

It does sound logical that live sports would get a boost with a stay at home audience but all of them were off and not just by a little, MLB. NBA, NHL were in the dumpster. And the once impervious NFL joined them and with TV deals coming up tied to the cap, this will be most interesting to see where this goes.

Some will say this is temporary. Like some said the NFL ratings would go through the roof. I don't think so.
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As the Cowboys go so do the NFL ratings.....
 
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BobbyFlame469 said:
Nobody watches live tv anymore. It has nothing to do with politics or whatever crap people with questionable agendas want to believe so bad.
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1) Remove politics from football
2) Refs make some games unbearable to watch
3) Ticky Tacky calls. They call PI on the dumbest **** nowadays. Let them battle and only call obvious penalties. Hard to play hard hitting defensive football anymore.. The protection of the quarterback to the extent of players not being able to touch the helmet is disgusting. I've seen harder hits in soccer games hell even baseball games
4) Commercial galore

Players celebrating to the extreme. Always fun to celebrate big plays or stops however not after every fn play or first down.
 
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I didn't get a fantasy team this year because I have enough problems dealing with bye weeks, let alone Covid. So, my interest in football dropped off a lot. I still never miss the Cowboys, but without my fantasy guys to root for I don't watch as many other teams this year. Hopefully that will change in 2021.
 
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foofighters said:
This! and why?

1. Defenses can't play defense anymore
2. We protect the QB so much that there is no common sense involved
3. Refs and flags
4. Commercials--way too many interruptions
5. There really isn't any big rivalries any longer--games are boring
6. The announcers are terrible. Outside of Romo/Nance and Collinsworth/Michaels, the rest are hard to listen to
7. Espn has ruined football and MNF in general. Too many morning shows that are basically the same show. MNF coverage is awful. Espn caters to the average football fan that only gives information so these guys can have something to generally talk about over the water cooler the next day. But don't go into depth. Pretty much everyone here knows more than the average Espn viewer.
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#'s 4 and 6 plus oversaturation have reduced my interest level. If some team doesn't hire Riddick as a GM, I am not watching MNF and there is no good reason to have 3 in the booth, no other net needs that.
 
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Everybody will have their "pet" reason on why ratings are down, for some it's the P-word for some it's the C-word for others (including me) it's because of the wide range of entertainment options that we have that our parents did not have. For example, I will watch the Cowboys games or a really good matchup of other teams, but if the game on TV is not all that great, I would honestly rather watch reruns of Its Always Sunny in Philadelphia or Drunk History, and just check my phone for score updates after every episode. When I was a kid on Sundays our choices were NFL football, bowling, or some crappy movie from the early 1970s - of course, it was going to be football.
That being said, as something of a historian, large-scale human movements tend to have very complicated reasons behind them that are a little bit different for everybody that is partaking in it, despite our best efforts to come up with a simple one-size-fits-all answer for the whole issue.

I would expect ratings to come back when a lot of the P-word and C-word issues are behind us, but I do think it's a long-term trend overall. Despite that, TV money will keep going up. As alluded to earlier, in relative decline terms, NFL football is still doing great. Advertisers don't get my eyeballs when I am watching Sunny episodes for the fourth time on HULU, but they sure do when the Cowboys are playing!
 
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Kolemmitt said:
Everybody will have their "pet" reason on why ratings are down, for some it's the P-word for some it's the C-word for others (including me) it's because of the wide range of entertainment options that we have that our parents did not have. For example, I will watch the Cowboys games or a really good matchup of other teams, but if the game on TV is not all that great, I would honestly rather watch reruns of Its Always Sunny in Philadelphia or Drunk History, and just check my phone for score updates after every episode. When I was a kid on Sundays our choices were NFL football, bowling, or some crappy movie from the early 1970s - of course, it was going to be football.
That being said, as something of a historian, large-scale human movements tend to have very complicated reasons behind them that are a little bit different for everybody that is partaking in it, despite our best efforts to come up with a simple one-size-fits-all answer for the whole issue.

I would expect ratings to come back when a lot of the P-word and C-word issues are behind us, but I do think it's a long-term trend overall. Despite that, TV money will keep going up. As alluded to earlier, in relative decline terms, NFL football is still doing great. Advertisers don't get my eyeballs when I am watching Sunny episodes for the fourth time on HULU, but they sure do when the Cowboys are playing!
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Unless you time shift it. I still don't have the hang of remembering I can FF through the commercials.
 

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CouchCoach said:
Don't know if you've been following this but the thinking that a captive audience would be a ratings bonanza has not happened and in fact the TV nets are doing make goods and discounting the rates because of the 25% drop in viewership. It was off almost 50% on Thanksgiving. This is unheard of to be discounting rates on the NFL.

In case you haven't noticed, the commercial load has increased and the same tired ATT, Progressive, State Farm, Toyota ads are hard to avoid along with every prescription drug with s=ide effects as bad as what they're designed for. It is overkill to the point of really being interested in the game to stay with it. I find myself drifting and checking out what's going on elsewhere.

There are several reasons floating out there, one of which we cannot discuss here, but I do not think this is temporary, I think the NFL and the nets are going to have to adjust to what I think the real enemy is, choices. And I have seen some ad men addressing this as the challenge.

TV nets don't usually try to counter NFL programming and in fact will promote games on other nets but the new kids on the block, Netflix, Amazon, Apple, Disney, Hulu, Peacock and HBO MAX don't have to worry about that, they just keep cranking out the productions. And advertising them during the games.

It does sound logical that live sports would get a boost with a stay at home audience but all of them were off and not just by a little, MLB. NBA, NHL were in the dumpster. And the once impervious NFL joined them and with TV deals coming up tied to the cap, this will be most interesting to see where this goes.

Some will say this is temporary. Like some said the NFL ratings would go through the roof. I don't think so.
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I have been watching NFL Redzone since 2014 if the Cowboys are not playing. To be honest the Sports commentary is just not any good. I like Tony and the Masters guy but everyone else has questions. Troy and Buck. Yuck!!!!!
 
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