Wentz vs Prescott - revisited

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did you know the owner of segway, in an effort to show how safe they were, died when he accidentally drove his off a cliff and was critically injured.
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Durability and leadership go a long way. Just being there every Sunday is half the battle. Wince can hit every moving target during the QB pro challenge in Honolulu. But so can Ryan Leaf.
I think the biggest cloud over Wince’s career is the fact a journeyman like Nick Foles came in and won a Super Bowl with his team. No question Foles would’ve stayed in Philly had Wince not anchored the franchise down with a contract.
Dak still has a lot to prove, no doubt. But his career is on a steady rise while Wince’s is in an obvious decline...
 

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People thinking Dak has had better talent around him than the eagles, is just a side effect of cowboys fans overrating the talent on their team.


Dak has maybe had better pure receivers than Wentz. Especially the last couple seasons.

but Between the TE’s, OL, coaching and defenses. Wentz has had just as much help as Dak if not more.

We can never forget that Wentz’s team has fared just as well, if not better, without him. Then it has with him.


Look at the facts. Since Wentz was drafted. The eagles have a BETTER record with other QB’s starting and a Super Bowl trophy.

Lies. Dak hasn’t even had better weapons. Maybe a better O-line, but look at how well Jalen Hurts is doing behind a supposed “bad O-line” and “no receivers” he’s doing better. Sure, it could be because he has little to no professional tape on him, but still. Dak is better than him. I could see someone making an argument back in 2016/2017, but since 2018, Dak has been better.
 

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In my opinion, Wentz has the better physical skills across the board, but Dak has better intangibles and durability, even after this injury. Many question Wentz leadership abilities, that's the first thing they talk about with Dak.


Bingo!!!!! ...it all starts and ends here, especially at the QB position.
 

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-both QBs drafted in 2016,..
-both have endured QB comparisons ,..
-both have faced devastating season ending injuries during their career.
-both QBs may be at a crossroads with their respective teams
- Prescott will either be franchised tagged again by Cowboys or re-signed long term as
cornerstone franchise QB. (forget it anti-Dak'ers , we wont be drafting a new starting QB per 1st rd)
- Wentz

Since he was drafted I thought Wentz was the better QB without the better receiving weaponry that Dak had. Dak had Dez, Beasley, Witten and TWill while Wentz had ...who ?... Ertz ?

I thought Wentz was the better pure thrower of the two.
More accurate, more touch, better deep thrower while Dak was more structured to the zeke run game. Success playing off the zeke run game. (much like Aikman to Emmitt run game)

Goedert, Alshon, Torrey Smith, Agholor, Sproles...

Also DGB, Whiteside, now raegor now that we’re high picks. Shrug. Maybe it’s him
 

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Durability and leadership go a long way. Just being there every Sunday is half the battle. Wince can hit every moving target during the QB pro challenge in Honolulu. But so can Ryan Leaf.
I think the biggest cloud over Wince’s career is the fact a journeyman like Nick Foles came in and won a Super Bowl with his team.
No question Foles would’ve stayed in Philly had Wince not anchored the franchise down with a contract.
Dak still has a lot to prove, no doubt. But his career is on a steady rise while Wince’s is in an obvious decline...

But what has Nick Foles journey and career been since his wonder year in Philly that won a SB ? After he departed from Philly per FA, he went right back to being journeyman like
after the bust signing and stint with Jax, ...and he looks mediocre with his current team Chicago Bears.

What's happened to Foles ?
First thing that came to mind, ..both QBs had QB guru in Frank Reich, neither QB has looked near the same since Reich departed to become HC.
Much credit was given to offensive minded Doug Pederson, but he could be eventually exposed.

Jalen Hurts ? I've seen this happened several times over in the NFL. with several QBs, several teams,.. several players, once teams come back with film tape on you second time around and they
have the personnel and coach scheme to deal with you, ..they deal with you.
Should they move on from Wentz, i'm just not convinced Hurts is THE guy. They'll very likely want him to be, but once he's exposed, it'll be interesting to watch where his career goes.

That's why you always have to find ways to keep expanding,.. involving your game, always giving teams different looks, approaches, something more to have to deal with.

That's why i'm loving what has become of Dak's game, how Dak himself has the altitude and learn process to become better, the coaches responsible for his growth and improvement and how they
have schemed his skills set and his supporting cast to best maximize his potential.
o_O
 

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Goedert, Alshon, Torrey Smith, Agholor, Sproles...

Also DGB, Whiteside, now raegor now that we’re high picks. Shrug. Maybe it’s him

Torry Smith ? Nelson ? Jeffrey ? … where do you see a true lead feature WR there ?
Smith and Jeffrey were average joes, is Torry even in the NFL now ?
Nelson fits more as a slot at best, and he's already been known to struggle with drops and injuries.

Sproles ? that's a situational, nickel scat back ? where's your lead back Alvin Kamara or Aaron Jones pro bowler RB that takes a great toll of the offense ?
Whiteside was a high pick but yet hasn't evolved into an impact lead WR, at best he's been serviceable.

And it's already been stated that Philly media and fanfare are bitcchhing and griping over passing over Justin Jefferson and drafting Jalen Reagor instead.

Its a TE oriented team, you have to give your franchise QB more than that on the perimeter.
 

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Dak vs Wentz is a good example of hard work vs natural talent

Wentz by far had better natural talent so he looked to have a higher ceiling the Dak.
Dak had better leadership abilities

However things don't always plan out the way you want. Wentz piled up injuries while Dak was working hard to progress as a better quarterback fundamentally.
Dak kept improving. Wentz returned to lake of talent on the offense especially in the WR department and his leadership started falling apart with the team. Once he lost the locker room this is what is has come down to for him. He is mentally broken at this point.

When he was healthy he proved to be a very competent quarterback. Best thing for him would be to get out of Philly and start fresh
 

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Dak will win a super bowl...AS A STARTER...before wentz will.
Dak is the better QB.

i hear ya, but yet we're having such bad luck streak with this revolving door at DCs.
HC and how we change how we play defense
Cross your fingers on new DC, new assts. and new defensive player personnel ,...
 

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i hear ya, but yet we're having such bad luck streak with this revolving door at DCs.
HC and how we change how we play defense
Cross your fingers on new DC, new assts. and new defensive player personnel ,...
with JJ at the helm...crossing your fingers and hoping for daylight is bout the best we can do.
 

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Torry Smith ? Nelson ? Jeffrey ? … where do you see a true lead feature WR there ?
Smith and Jeffrey were average joes, is Torry even in the NFL now ?
Nelson fits more as a slot at best, and he's already been known to struggle with drops and injuries.

Sproles ? that's a situational, nickel scat back ? where's your lead back Alvin Kamara or Aaron Jones pro bowler RB that takes a great toll of the offense ?
Whiteside was a high pick but yet hasn't evolved into an impact lead WR, at best he's been serviceable.

And it's already been stated that Philly media and fanfare are bitcchhing and griping over passing over Justin Jefferson and drafting Jalen Reagor instead.

Its a TE oriented team, you have to give your franchise QB more than that on the perimeter.


Who said they were leads. That’s jefferies. I’m naming talented wrs and/or high picks that they’ve invested in for him. Your dismissive description of sproles tells the story though lol.
 

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-both QBs drafted in 2016,..
-both have endured QB comparisons ,..
-both have faced devastating season ending injuries during their career.
-both QBs may be at a crossroads with their respective teams
- Prescott will either be franchised tagged again by Cowboys or re-signed long term as
cornerstone franchise QB. (forget it anti-Dak'ers , we wont be drafting a new starting QB per 1st rd)
- Wentz

Since he was drafted I thought Wentz was the better QB without the better receiving weaponry that Dak had. Dak had Dez, Beasley, Witten and TWill while Wentz had ...who ?... Ertz ?

I thought Wentz was the better pure thrower of the two.
More accurate, more touch, better deep thrower while Dak was more structured to the zeke run game. Success playing off the zeke run game. (much like Aikman to Emmitt run game)




You forgot to mention that one has been benched for very poor play where the other never has been. Or that one has been injured 2 of his 1st 4 years the other didn't suffer an injury until his 5th season. You also didn't mention that Wentz has thrown more picks than Prescott and your claim that Wentz is a better deep ball thrower is false since Prescott led the league in completions of both 20 plus yards and 40 plus yards for most of 2018 where as Wentz hasn't lead the league for even a single week.
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I don’t think this is a legitimate debate anymore, just like Zeke and Henry debate. Clear cut winners in both.
 

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Wentz was the better and more talented QB when drafted. The injury has really really set him back and he is not anywhere near the QB now that he was before injury

Dak has developed himself and improved his throwing but his anticipation and reading defenses is still not great. He gets confused and rushes things which is why his numbers are worse under pressure

Now, Dak is clearly better but he is not worth anywhere near 40 million/y. He will need a great OL and run game and a great defense to win a SB. I don’t think he can overcome the lack of any of these 3 components for a span of 3-4 games against the best teams which is what he will need to do to win a SB

Dak will keep up “relevant” but will prevent us from being great

If I’m Wentz, I make Philly cut me and get to NE or SF. I think he will be great with those coaches
 
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