Twitter: Troy weighs in again

The question about Dak is: Compared to whom? Mahomes? Dalton? Whoever you might be able to draft that hasn't played a down in the NFL?

Qcard said:

oh so the goal post and standard now shifts to Josh Allen....First it was Carson Wentz, then Dalton now Josh Allen.

Dak Haters are so predictable

Dak Prescott Vs. Josh Allen FIRST 21 Games Started

Dak Prescott 15 Wins 6 Losses (2016 - 2017)

Josh Allen 12 Wins 10 Losses (2018 - 2019)



Dak Prescott Vs. Josh Allen CAREER

Dak Prescott 42 Wins 27 Losses

Josh Allen 27 Wins 16 Losses


I predict you’ll shift the goal post to stats and team talent yada yada yada

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Thank you for assigning wins and losses to QB's as all you need to do is look at Dallas' record from 2017-2020 under Dak Prescott to see he is not bringing them to the promise land anytime soon.

Qcard said:

oh so the goal post and standard now shifts to Josh Allen....First it was Carson Wentz, then Dalton now Josh Allen.

Dak Haters are so predictable

Dak Prescott Vs. Josh Allen FIRST 21 Games Started

Dak Prescott 15 Wins 6 Losses (2016 - 2017)

Josh Allen 12 Wins 10 Losses (2018 - 2019)



Dak Prescott Vs. Josh Allen CAREER

Dak Prescott 42 Wins 27 Losses

Josh Allen 27 Wins 16 Losses


I predict you’ll shift the goal post to stats and team talent yada yada yada

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Oh, and the career numbers you posted shows the following win percentage:

Josh Allen .628

Dak Prescott .609

So Josh Allen has won more games in his career than Dak.....again thanks for proving my point.

USArmyVet said:

Oh, and the career numbers you posted shows the following win percentage:

Josh Allen .628

Dak Prescott .609

So Josh Allen has won more games in his career than Dak.....again thanks for proving my point.

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Yes! This proves Josh Allen has won more games in his career than Dak

Happy New Year!

cowboyed said:

Well Troy isn't a chiropractor. TE David LaFleur apparently had - or developed chronic back issues.

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Well, apparently Troy is a medical expert at broken legs since it sounds like Troy knows Dak’s leg is healing fine and there will be no problems moving forward.

exciter said:

Not sure if I should respond Bingo or Duh ! Either way he hit it on the head. JUST SIGN DAK! The end. Your welcome!

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That's what the Rams did!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

kskboys said:

That's what the Rams did!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Lol! What exactly does what the Rams did have to do with the simple reality that we’re going to sign our franchise QB to the contract he has earned and deserved?

TequilaCowboy said:

To go along with another disease....talent deficiency. Ain't that special.

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Aikman simply worked out LaFleur, was impressed with him and rendered a positive assessment of him. How could Aikman know that the tight end would be hampered by chronic back issues during his tenure with the Cowboys? LaFleur's physical inabilities surely impacted whatever his talent level.

Even our vaunted scouting department has misses as well as hits selecting players.

Did Aikman threaten to quit if the Cowboys didn't acquire LaFleur? I don't agree with Aikman all the time either but why use LaFleur from over a decade ago as a shining example that Aikman has no credibility evaluating talent if you think he is a wannabe GM? Aikman transitioning from player to analyst likely broadened his player and coach talent perspective more fully.

ninja said:

As an engineer, show me the data to back up what one is trying to say. Sure. I looked at the data he provided. I am a data-driven person. No matter what side one is on, that is some good data. Yes, no data is perfect but this helps to put things in perspective concerning Dak and Dalton.

I said early on, or even before the season began, that this season would give us good data on the team and the individual players. I think we learned a lot and can make some decisions going forward. What did we learn? We learned that Dak is not worth a large guaranteed contract. Even more so with the injury now. The team can win with a QB like Dalton as well as a team with Dak. Dak was 1-3 with a gift-wrapped win thanks to Atlanta. So, basically Dak was 0-4 to begin the year. Pitiful for a QB making $30M. We need to use the saved money on defense. We learned that neither Dak or Zeke are capable of carrying the team. The offensive cupboard is loaded and we do not need a star QB to succeed. We can move on from Tyron Smith and Collins and slide Zach Martin to OT. We learned that Awuzie and Lewis are so-so CBs. I would not get into a bidding war for either. We learned that LVE is fragile like Lee and can't be relied on. We learned that Jaylon Smith is pedestrian. We learned that we need a complete LB makeover. We got no improvement at safety unfortunately.

Sunday's game will tell us a lot more about Dak vs Dalton. We shall see with a playoff spot on the line how Dalton will perform.

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I happen to be an engineer too, so as a fellow engineer you should understand and know better than eliminate data and not consider all input. instead you only used data to make your results workout to your liking....that's a big NO NO for engineers. that's the very first thing they teach you in any engineering school.

What did we learn? that Dalton is not capable of beating any starting QB, which he failed to do but once (statistically called outlier and often eliminated to get to the norm). We learned that in order to beat bad teams he needs a lot of help. I mean a lot of help from the Defense, getting him turnovers and even scoring and favorable field position as his ou put having to start in our end of the field has been absolutely dismal. We learned he is not capable of beating average teams...those are the inputs you as an engineer failed to take into account. if you would have worked on the shuttle as an engineer, it would explode on the platform...

Looking at all the data....We learned that Dak can keep the team competitive, when the defense is dismal (facts and data available to you as an engineer, then use them). we learned when the defense is giving up 200, 300, 200 yards rushing.....giving up TD passes after TD passes, giving up 36 points per game, that he can still bring the team to within one score with few minutes to go...those are data and information that's right in front of you and you chose to ignore....we also learned when the defense gives up 200 yards rushing, with Dalton the team is not competitive at all (Ravens). same data points, different results.

and I find it funny, you mention the Atlanta game and call it gift wrap, yet ignore the 9 turnovers, and the defensive performance over the pat three weeks and not call those gift wrapped.. Dalton had a horrible outing against Cinci, if not for defense scoring and keep getting him the ball at their end of the field and stopping them from a sure score with another fumble recovery on our end. DATA. INFORMATION and all relevant information must be taken into account....I expect more from you as an engineer.

and we learned if not for defense gift wrapping games for Dalton as well as the opposing team having their back up QBs then we would be 1-7 with him (AZ, WFT, Ravens)

we learned that Dalton is not the answer based on the evidence and data available to us as engineers. clear and concise data.

perhaps, as an engineer you would know (again basic engineering principles), that when you come to conclusion you outline all your assumptions and conditions, other wise you end up with the shuttle falling apart before getting to the platform....basic engineering principles that they teach in ALL engineering schools....and the conditions you failed to recognize as required for wins with Dalton is that we can win with Dalton if every team we play is a top 10 picking team, with their back up QBs, needing defensive turnovers to get to victory....so if those conditions are true next year, then we have a chance.....because once those conditions weren't true, this team wasn't competitive and got blown out (Ravens, AZ, WFT(2)).

I am disappointed in you as an engineer. you failed. I wouldn't want you on my engineering team.

ninja said:

Well, apparently Troy is a medical expert at broken legs since it sounds like Troy knows Dak’s leg is healing fine and there will be no problems moving forward.

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Everyone knows that.

ninja said:

As an engineer, show me the data to back up what one is trying to say. Sure. I looked at the data he provided. I am a data-driven person. No matter what side one is on, that is some good data. Yes, no data is perfect but this helps to put things in perspective concerning Dak and Dalton.

I said early on, or even before the season began, that this season would give us good data on the team and the individual players. I think we learned a lot and can make some decisions going forward. What did we learn? We learned that Dak is not worth a large guaranteed contract. Even more so with the injury now. The team can win with a QB like Dalton as well as a team with Dak. Dak was 1-3 with a gift-wrapped win thanks to Atlanta. So, basically Dak was 0-4 to begin the year. Pitiful for a QB making $30M. We need to use the saved money on defense. We learned that neither Dak or Zeke are capable of carrying the team. The offensive cupboard is loaded and we do not need a star QB to succeed. We can move on from Tyron Smith and Collins and slide Zach Martin to OT. We learned that Awuzie and Lewis are so-so CBs. I would not get into a bidding war for either. We learned that LVE is fragile like Lee and can't be relied on. We learned that Jaylon Smith is pedestrian. We learned that we need a complete LB makeover. We got no improvement at safety unfortunately.

Sunday's game will tell us a lot more about Dak vs Dalton. We shall see with a playoff spot on the line how Dalton will perform.

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You need to find a new job because you’ll be fired soon if this is how you use data to reach a conclusion.

visionary said:

Next you’ll resort to “find another team”

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Nothing so sophomoric, Visionary. It's a serious question...

It is (was) my experience 100's of years ago in a galaxy far, far away... that a "winning culture" is cultivated by a few players that raise everyone around them on a team who are well coached in the details of technique for each players' given position and simply wills those around them not to lose focus on what's important - winning.

When that happens, it pretty magical. Been there. All 11 acting as one - refusing to lose. Everyone is good at a certain level. But, in my experience, the difference is an attitude of winning that feeds on itself and motivates everyone to exceed their individual ability for the greater good of the team.

Staubach had that (comeback kid)... Emmitt (separated shoulder and all)... Randy White, Bob Lilly, Michael Irvin, Charles Haley...

Dak has that.

Rockport said:

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Well, we all know that there is a sizable portion of our posters who don’t respect Troy’s opinion, denigrate his accomplishments when he was our QB and believe him to be a shill for Jerry

They will also chime in about Roger and Jimmy.

They pretty much hate on anyone who appreciates what Dak has done.

Those posters are insane know-nothings, and without reading the rest of the thread I’m certain they are already spewing their idiocy

Their motivations are highly suspect.

Flinger said:

Nothing so sophomoric, Visionary. It's a serious question...

It is (was) my experience 100's of years ago in a galaxy far, far away... that a "winning culture" is cultivated by a few players that raise everyone around them on a team who are well coached in the details of technique for each players' given position and simply wills those around them not to lose focus on what's important - winning.

When that happens, it pretty magical. Been there. All 11 acting as one - refusing to lose. Everyone is good at a certain level. But, in my experience, the difference is an attitude of winning that feeds on itself and motivates everyone to exceed their individual ability for the greater good of the team.

Staubach had that (comeback kid)... Emmitt (separated shoulder and all)... Randy White, Bob Lilly, Michael Irvin, Charles Haley...

Dak has that.

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Yes, he does have “that”

He has won so much in the last 5 years since he’s been here that it’s almost unfair
Not one post season with back to back wins
Not one CCG
Not one SB

in 5 years starting

Yet he’s won so much because he “has that”

Maybe he should be asked to play with one arm behind his back just so other teams that have been beating him regularly can at least compete?



may some point fans have to actually wake up

Flinger said:

Nothing so sophomoric, Visionary. It's a serious question...

It is (was) my experience 100's of years ago in a galaxy far, far away... that a "winning culture" is cultivated by a few players that raise everyone around them on a team who are well coached in the details of technique for each players' given position and simply wills those around them not to lose focus on what's important - winning.

When that happens, it pretty magical. Been there. All 11 acting as one - refusing to lose. Everyone is good at a certain level. But, in my experience, the difference is an attitude of winning that feeds on itself and motivates everyone to exceed their individual ability for the greater good of the team.

Staubach had that (comeback kid)... Emmitt (separated shoulder and all)... Randy White, Bob Lilly, Michael Irvin, Charles Haley...

Dak has that.

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If Dak has 'that' then why hasn't he shown it?

Beware of other people telling you how to spend your money? My wife often tells me how to spend my money. For some strange reason need, budget, long term, and exit strategy have to be brought up by me.

By trial and error, I learned to be very careful asking ‘do we really need that.’ And don’t ever mention ‘yeah, we shouldn’t have bought that’ while throwing out or putting on Craigslist.

USArmyVet said:

If Dak has 'that' then why hasn't he shown it?

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because “that” is only relevant if you have talent first

Tim Tebow also “had that”

“having that” is totally meaningless if you can’t bring talent first

USArmyVet said:

If Dak has 'that' then why hasn't he shown it?

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Exactly what do you mean?

Do you expect 1 player to "win" it all?

Every ex-player, every person that has talked about Dak has been all in on him as a leader and as a guy who is all about being the best at his position so that his team can win.

How is that a problem?

Now, I will ask you - ever played on a team?

visionary said:

because “that” is only relevant if you have talent first

Tim Tebow also “had that”

“having that” is totally meaningless if you can’t bring talent first

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Dak isn't Tebow. He was a top 5 QB before his injury...

Again, have you ever played?

Troy has spoken! Pay Dak!