Twitter: NFLPA pushing to eliminate offseason programs/practices

doomsday9084

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This isn't about injuries or wear and tear. This is about trying to get 6 months of vacation. IMHO, eliminating this stuff would make injuries more likely at the start of the season as a bunch of fat dudes start pulling muscles and tearing ligaments that haven't been worked since the previous season.
 

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Maybe it should be an age thing, like if you are 27 or older you don't have to do the offseason practices.

This would be a good compromise. If you're an established veteran, then off-season programs outside of post-draft OTAs should be optional. I'd still like either post-draft OTAs or a mini camp to be mandatory so that they can get initial time to practice with the young players to start to get a feel for what they will have to work with. This can help with planning how to adjust their plans for the season.
 

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I tend to stay out of the "how much a guy makes" arguments because there's a lot more to it than what we see during the season. They typically work all year and it's pretty incredible how hard.
That being said, I'm not really buying into the wear and tear statement. Off season programs are to polish your craft and it's not like they go 100% anyway. These players make enough income to be set up for life, including their families. They have the very best medical.

To me, it's going to be worse than what we saw this season. A lesser quality product.
 

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Yeah, the "wear and tear" argument is BS. They aren't doing Oklahoma drill in OTAs, they're just running around doing drills, running plays, and learning the offense (or defense). Maybe they hit some bags but not each other. And most of the offseason is just weight room workouts anyway, which is what they'd do on their own (if they want to be their best and keep their job) only less effective than if they had a coach and their teammates around.

This sounds to me like some players told their reps they didn't want to have to bother with living in their team's town most of the offseason. They'd rather work out on their own in Arizona or California or Florida or wherever. It's about convenience, not health.
 

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What about younger players trying to get a spot? This should help them:facepalm:.
 

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Yeah, the "wear and tear" argument is BS. They aren't doing Oklahoma drill in OTAs, they're just running around doing drills, running plays, and learning the offense (or defense). Maybe they hit some bags but not each other. And most of the offseason is just weight room workouts anyway, which is what they'd do on their own (if they want to be their best and keep their job) only less effective than if they had a coach and their teammates around.

This sounds to me like some players told their reps they didn't want to have to bother with living in their team's town most of the offseason. They'd rather work out on their own in Arizona or California or Florida or wherever. It's about convenience, not health.
Even the bags are soft.
 

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I think you would be surprised how little NFL owners actually make compared to what people think they make. Most profit goes back into the team. The Cowboys would be one of the exceptions to this rule, but some teams actually struggle or lose money. The majority of money that sports franchise owners make is in the valuation of the team, not year over year profits.
That is very true but as the owner of the team they get the growth in valuation and it’s soaring
A team is an investment and most investments pay off when you sell them
 

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Mini camps and OTA's are useless. The players back in the day didn't have a problem playing into shape at camp and preseason, they need to make camp tougher.

The NFL needs to address the pathetic tackling but then again that contributes to the increased scoring that they want. I have never seen so many Venus de Milo tackles in one season. They act like they just got their nails done.
Hard to compare training camp today to 20 years ago
It’s nothing close to being the same
And mini camps and OTA aren’t much contact
A camp 20 years ago you had more contact in one season than most get in TC now in their career
 

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The first 3-4 games of the season are barely watchable as it is. Poor tackling, penalties out the wazoo, poor execution, and on, and on.
If this goes forward then we will be 6-8 weeks into the season before most teams are functioning at a professional level.
 

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Gee, players want less wear and tear to prolong careers. How selfish
Then don't play.

Players are being paid enormous amounts to play. The tradeoff is that it's very hard on your body. They know this coming in. Most are paid enough to retire for life w/i 4-6 years.
 

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The first 3-4 games of the season are barely watchable as it is. Poor tackling, penalties out the wazoo, poor execution, and on, and on.
If this goes forward then we will be 6-8 weeks into the season before most teams are functioning at a professional level.
It's already 3-4 weeks before it becomes watchable because teams won't play their starters in preseason to get them ready.
 
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