Does Dallas get comp pick if Dalton signs large contract with another team?

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Andy Dalton is not a starter in the NFL.

33 Year old NFL players on the down side of their career with no significant team achievements won't be able to lead rebuilding team or veteran team.

Andy Dalton's leadership qualifications are limited to helping develop starting QBs as a Back-up NFL QB. and hoping he doesn't have to play more than 5 games.

The Bengals gave Andy the keys to the city. He was a great community ambassador for Bengals but an average, slightly above-bust Franchise QB.

We shall see as soon as Free agency opens. I'll humbly eat crow if Andy Dalton is signed as a STARTING QB....very unlikely to happen

He was our starter. He started more games for us then any other QB on our roster so yes, he is a starter. I don't care how much you cry, he is a starter and nothing you say can change that.

Who's the last really successful QB the Bengals have had? Let me help you, it was Otto Graham and that was like 65 years ago. If you want to say Ken Anderson, which was like 35 years ago, then OK but if you look at Anderson's career, it compares to Daltons in Cincy so perhaps, just maybe, it's not the QB. Maybe it's the Bengals?
 

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Yeah you are right one game defines a career. A couple of those Montana KC games proved he really sucked.

Ok. I admit I picked 2019 to avoid talking about all the success prior to that.

That was a good point talking about 4 time Super Bowl Champion Joe Montana maybe not having a great game in Kansas City. This is exactly like that.
 

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Ok. I admit I picked 2019 to avoid talking about all the success prior to that.

That was a good point talking about 4 time Super Bowl Champion Joe Montana maybe not having a great game in Kansas City. This is exactly like that.
Listen cupcake you were the one saying the Philly game was disqualifying for Dak. I was trying to show you that logic was wrong. You are welcome.
 

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If we can, then I would rather have the pick. That's not just my usual aversion to good backup quarterbacks. It's that there's always an Andy Dalton floating around. The fifth round pick or whatever has more upside.
 

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Show me the QB who could be good in Dallas last year or in Cincy for the last 60. It's a pretty tall order dbz.

It’s weird too cause Dalton and Daks numbers are literally identical their 1st 4 years.
 

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Listen cupcake you were the one saying the Philly game was disqualifying for Dak. I was trying to show you that logic was wrong. You are welcome.

And you're the one saying good riddance to Dalton while still seeing value in Prescott despite them both not being good enough to beat bad teams for the division at the end of the year.

Oh and you're also the one comparing Prescott to Joe Montana.

Now be a dove and admit you're wrong.
 

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It’s weird too cause Dalton and Daks numbers are literally identical their 1st 4 years.

literally identical, until you look at INTs. Or Rushing. Or the post season.

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And you're the one saying good riddance to Dalton while still seeing value in Prescott despite them both not being good enough to beat bad teams for the division at the end of the year.

Oh and you're also the one comparing Prescott to Joe Montana.

Now be a dove and admit you're wrong.
I am not seeing value in Prescott. Reading is fundamental don’t you know. To be clear I like Dak but think the potential salary is too much especially considering the holes in the roster. In fact I just said today that I hope Fields is available.That aside Dalton will most definitely get this team nowhere. Where did I compare Dak to Montana? I did not draw equivalency on the players rather the situation you described. Now be a good boy and drink a beer. It’s Friday.
 

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I am not seeing value in Prescott. Reading is fundamental don’t you know. To be clear I like Dak but think the potential salary is too much especially considering the holes in the roster. In fact I just said today that I hope Fields is available.That aside Dalton will most definitely get this team nowhere. Where did I compare Dak to Montana? I did not draw equivalency on the players rather the situation you described. Now be a good boy and drink a beer. It’s Friday.

You told me you don't want Prescott back at the number being talked about. That tells me you would take him back under other circumstances. That also tells me you see value in him. Where am I losing you, love?
 

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He was our starter. He started more games for us then any other QB on our roster so yes, he is a starter. I don't care how much you cry, he is a starter and nothing you say can change that.

Who's the last really successful QB the Bengals have had? Let me help you, it was Otto Graham and that was like 65 years ago. If you want to say Ken Anderson, which was like 35 years ago, then OK but if you look at Anderson's career, it compares to Daltons in Cincy so perhaps, just maybe, it's not the QB. Maybe it's the Bengals?
Ah yes...classic @ABQCOWBOY defining my takes on Andy Dalton as "crying" :lmao2:

I could careless if you dug up Otto Graham bones and did a DNA test to which proved there wasn't a massive gap in Era. Otto Graham was amongst the best in his peers.....Andy Dalton is average to below average against his peers and in his era.

You also said Dak's price tag wouldn't go up in past and Belichick wouldn't sign a player like Cam Newton (Forum has receipts).....You've been wrong on QB since the Carter Days:muttley:
 

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You told me you don't want Prescott back at the number being talked about. That tells me you would take him back under other circumstances. That also tells me you see value in him. Where am I losing you, love?

Oh so you want to go the fantasy land where QBs are affordable or stay in the real world where the market sets the value? I am a special guy but I don’t think I can change the course of the NFL value metric to meet my “circumstances”. So in the real world it doesn’t matter what I think. Signing Dak given all the holes is not prudent. Can’t have a 40mm QB on a team that is in a rebuild. That clear enough honey pie?
 

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Ah yes...classic @ABQCOWBOY defining my takes on Andy Dalton as "crying" :lmao2:

I could careless if you dug up Otto Graham bones and did a DNA test to which proved there wasn't a massive gap in Era. Otto Graham was amongst the best in his peers.....Andy Dalton is average to below average against his peers and in his era.

You also said Dak's price tag wouldn't go up in past and Belichick wouldn't sign a player like Cam Newton (Forum has receipts).....You've been wrong on QB since the Carter Days:muttley:

LOL..... They are Q. You complain about a dude that came to dallas to back up Dak for 3 million and when he does, all he is able to accomplish is a better winning percentage and more games won, all the while, the fan base does nothing but beat him down because he has the nerve to come to dallas and earn his money. Hell, we've paid more to more FAs for doing far less and nobody gave one tenth of the time to bash them. Why is that exactly? So yeah, I characterize it as crying because that's what it is. Now, you want to prove it's not, that's fine with me. Go on ahead and explain it to me why our fan base does this to the guy.

So I read you comments on Otto Graham and Andy Dalton and once again, it becomes clear to me that you just do not have the ability to put two and two together and arrive at four. It's not about who was better between Graham and Dalton. Go back and read the thread for pete sakes. Good Lord, then you wonder why things happen the way they do.

I never said Dak's price tag wouldn't go up. I said I wouldn't pay him more. I don't recall saying much at all about Newton but you know what, I won't argue that because I could see myself saying something like that. They don't fit and I'm pretty sure that we will see that here before too long.

But so what, what does any of that have to do with this discussion? I mean, you don't see me bringing up your ridiculous takes and hero worship of Quincy Carter from back in the day, do you? Oh wait...........

Get a job dude.
 

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Oh so you want to go the fantasy land where QBs are affordable or stay in the real world where the market sets the value? I am a special guy but I don’t think I can change the course of the NFL value metric to meet my “circumstances”. So in the real world it doesn’t matter what I think. Signing Dak given all the holes is not prudent. Can’t have a 40mm QB on a team that is in a rebuild. That clear enough honey pie?

I don't know why this is confusing to you, darling.

If you're saying good riddance to one QB who can't beat a bad team with the division on the line you should feel the same way about another QB who also fits that description.

Why the double standard? Neither is good enough.
 

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I don't know why this is confusing to you, darling.

If you're saying good riddance to one QB who can't beat a bad team with the division on the line you should feel the same way about another QB who also fits that description.

Why the double standard? Neither is good enough.
Listen Doll we will have to agree to disagree. Dak > Dalton but not worth 40 plus. That clear things up? Try some Ginko and/or fish oil.
 
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