Dallas should hire Matt Patricia or Jim Schwartz as Defensive Coordinator

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That’s not true at all. Miami and Tennessee’s HC’s both coached under Belicheat. Both very good coaches.

OK...I give you these two ( exception to the rule lol). Now find one more.......I know this coz I spent a little time researching them about a year ago and could not find one. The closest I found that some success was Texans former HC O'brian (ms) but he was just fired. (LOL)
 

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I would 100% sign patricia as a DC. I think he bit off a little more than he could chew being a HC and trying to run his defense
 

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Patricias defense got lit up by a backup QB in a SuperBowl.
Noooo thanks
 

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I like that Jim Schwartz values DTs and displays fire and brimstone with his coaching. I also would love for Schwartz to take this tenacity to the Eagles. Jim Schwartz really understands defensive line schematics and also understands that games are won in the trench. I was pissed that Dallas did not hire him after the Lions fired him.

My 2nd choice is Matt Patricia. He was excellent in New England at taking away a team’s #1 receiver and RB. Patricia’s in-game and half-time adjustments were 2nd to none.

Patricia.
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I like that Jim Schwartz values DTs and displays fire and brimstone with his coaching. I also would love for Schwartz to take this tenacity to the Eagles. Jim Schwartz really understands defensive line schematics and also understands that games are won in the trench. I was pissed that Dallas did not hire him after the Lions fired him.

My 2nd choice is Matt Patricia. He was excellent in New England at taking away a team’s #1 receiver and RB. Patricia’s in-game and half-time adjustments were 2nd to none.
Schwartz didnt do so well without Fletcher Cox and that Eagles secondary was horrible. I dont want anymore ex Detroit coaches. Patricia is another ex detroit coach. I think the best candidate out there is Dan Quinn with Marvin Lewis being second.
 

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Yeah, I tend to see things similarly to that. I want some young, up and coming mind that has a ton of energy and the players can relate to.

We have that in Moore on offense, now if we could just get Leonhard (or someone like him), then Dallas would have them on both sides of the ball. Then, McCarthy’s experience and leadership would be fine and a source of guidance.

That should be the goal.
I really liked Leonard as a player, and think he could bring something to the secondary for sure. Also, as a former Safety/PR'er I know Jim will value the position, and possibly fix this nonsense at the position.

Cowboys need an architect. An architect for the defense to provide a whole new way they approach defense and building a defense.
 

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Most coaches in this league are retreads. This is such a stupid argument.
This statement sounds smart but actually idiotic.

The problem is NFL Owners have a history of picking from a fixed pool of coaches, even after they been fired sometimes after multiple opportunities.

Ever heard of the Rooney Rule.


Wade Phillips was a retread multiple times, and is probably one of the better DCs the past 10-15 years.
Yeah a squirrel found a Nut.

Now do done serious objective research and find out how many retreads have been collosal failures....

It take an idiot to miss it after the 2020 defense debacle...

Wade Philips also busted as a retread Head Coach....
 

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No they should not
Do our fans watch other football games? The Eagles defensive line is just as good as the Football Teams and they have Slade in the secondary. Schwartz was a terrible defensive coach this season. Patricia has been exposed as a Belichick stooge. Hard pass.
 

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I like that Jim Schwartz values DTs and displays fire and brimstone with his coaching. I also would love for Schwartz to take this tenacity to the Eagles. Jim Schwartz really understands defensive line schematics and also understands that games are won in the trench. I was pissed that Dallas did not hire him after the Lions fired him.

My 2nd choice is Matt Patricia. He was excellent in New England at taking away a team’s #1 receiver and RB. Patricia’s in-game and half-time adjustments were 2nd to none.

Honestly who I would rather see than anybody is Marvin Lewis right now he would be #1 for me however my only concern would be you might not have him but a year or two because he's always mention for HC Gigs

Schwartz wants to take a year off

Patricia makes me nervous his DC experience with NE was it really him or Belecek
 

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No DC is going to "fix" this until they fix the talent problem. If it was all about that guy, Ryan would have done better in PHL and Lewis in CIN. Kiffin could even save his own son's job and then shows up in DAL to weave his magic.

It al starts with the players, not the coaches.
 

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Us fans have no friggin clue who is a good coach to hire and who isn’t. We’re not there day in and day out to see how they interact with the players. There’s 2 elements to being a great coach. 1st is how they interact with the players. I don’t care how good your scheme is if you can’t relate to the players and command their respect you will fail. Period. 2nd is their scheme and how they can disguise their plays. So saying this coach is the right guy or that coach is the right guy is just showing your lack of awareness in how things work.
I disagree with this statement in so many ways. Saying fans have no friggin clue is just wrong. Some do, and some don't. And there are 4 main jobs of the DC -- 1) scheme and teaching it is 40% and making sure player is in position to make plays. He needs to make sure the position coaches are teaching the correct scheme. He needs to be able to communicate up what talents are needed to the HC and GM. 2) Motivating the players is 30%. Players need to believe in his scheme and work extra hard to execute it. This is where interacting with players comes in, but if players can't execute a scheme, either it is time for a new scheme or time for a few new players...which leads to 3) Discipline is about 20% -- this is the part Wade Phillips failed at. This is the part that the new snowflake training camps and the atmosphere at the Star keeps the softness rolling. This is forgotten in most of the failing teams. This is why Bill B wins and his assistants are all smart but never seem to win when they leave --- because he enforces the discipline and no players are bigger than the coach. All know he will get rid of them in a heartbeat if they buck the system. 4) The last part of it is monitoring. The DC needs to monitor the advancement of the players and how well the position coaches are teaching. Monitoring who is getting the job done and who isn't. Players and his assistant coaches.

Accountability, Knowing Responsibility, Discipline...........all needed to win. Jerry should hire a GM - just so he can hold him responsible. Right now the GM isn't responsible, the HC wasn't before MM and I have no clue about now, the players aren't held responsible. Always excuses, but never ------ you are responsible so adapt, improvise, and overcome and we will fix the issue AFTER the job is complete. There is a mission each game, and failure is acceptable apparently.
 

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Wow....Cowboy fans love retreads
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Us fans have no friggin clue who is a good coach to hire and who isn’t. We’re not there day in and day out to see how they interact with the players. There’s 2 elements to being a great coach. 1st is how they interact with the players. I don’t care how good your scheme is if you can’t relate to the players and command their respect you will fail. Period. 2nd is their scheme and how they can disguise their plays. So saying this coach is the right guy or that coach is the right guy is just showing your lack of awareness in how things work.
The funny thing about this statement is the Cowboys front office hasn't been very successful at hiring coaches. The fans have had better ideas over the years than Jerry.
 

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I disagree with this statement in so many ways. Saying fans have no friggin clue is just wrong. Some do, and some don't. And there are 4 main jobs of the DC -- 1) scheme and teaching it is 40% and making sure player is in position to make plays. He needs to make sure the position coaches are teaching the correct scheme. He needs to be able to communicate up what talents are needed to the HC and GM. 2) Motivating the players is 30%. Players need to believe in his scheme and work extra hard to execute it. This is where interacting with players comes in, but if players can't execute a scheme, either it is time for a new scheme or time for a few new players...which leads to 3) Discipline is about 20% -- this is the part Wade Phillips failed at. This is the part that the new snowflake training camps and the atmosphere at the Star keeps the softness rolling. This is forgotten in most of the failing teams. This is why Bill B wins and his assistants are all smart but never seem to win when they leave --- because he enforces the discipline and no players are bigger than the coach. All know he will get rid of them in a heartbeat if they buck the system. 4) The last part of it is monitoring. The DC needs to monitor the advancement of the players and how well the position coaches are teaching. Monitoring who is getting the job done and who isn't. Players and his assistant coaches.

Accountability, Knowing Responsibility, Discipline...........all needed to win. Jerry should hire a GM - just so he can hold him responsible. Right now the GM isn't responsible, the HC wasn't before MM and I have no clue about now, the players aren't held responsible. Always excuses, but never ------ you are responsible so adapt, improvise, and overcome and we will fix the issue AFTER the job is complete. There is a mission each game, and failure is acceptable apparently.
Most fans have no clue. @Ranching does and there maybe Few other coaches, scouts here but the vast majority like myself have no clue.
 

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The funny thing about this statement is the Cowboys front office hasn't been very successful at hiring coaches. The fans have had better ideas over the years than Jerry.
You’re right on the first part but wrong on the second.
 

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I disagree with this statement in so many ways. Saying fans have no friggin clue is just wrong. Some do, and some don't. And there are 4 main jobs of the DC -- 1) scheme and teaching it is 40% and making sure player is in position to make plays. He needs to make sure the position coaches are teaching the correct scheme. He needs to be able to communicate up what talents are needed to the HC and GM. 2) Motivating the players is 30%. Players need to believe in his scheme and work extra hard to execute it. This is where interacting with players comes in, but if players can't execute a scheme, either it is time for a new scheme or time for a few new players...which leads to 3) Discipline is about 20% -- this is the part Wade Phillips failed at. This is the part that the new snowflake training camps and the atmosphere at the Star keeps the softness rolling. This is forgotten in most of the failing teams. This is why Bill B wins and his assistants are all smart but never seem to win when they leave --- because he enforces the discipline and no players are bigger than the coach. All know he will get rid of them in a heartbeat if they buck the system. 4) The last part of it is monitoring. The DC needs to monitor the advancement of the players and how well the position coaches are teaching. Monitoring who is getting the job done and who isn't. Players and his assistant coaches.

Accountability, Knowing Responsibility, Discipline...........all needed to win. Jerry should hire a GM - just so he can hold him responsible. Right now the GM isn't responsible, the HC wasn't before MM and I have no clue about now, the players aren't held responsible. Always excuses, but never ------ you are responsible so adapt, improvise, and overcome and we will fix the issue AFTER the job is complete. There is a mission each game, and failure is acceptable apparently.
You're trying to speak logic to a poster who's sole purpose on this site is to bash and insult others and bring a massive negativity to a great site.
 

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What was with that weird beef between MattP and Alan in Detroit?
 

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OK...I give you these two ( exception to the rule lol). Now find one more.......I know this coz I spent a little time researching them about a year ago and could not find one. The closest I found that some success was Texans former HC O'brian (ms) but he was just fired. (LOL)
O'Brien had zero success. He turned out to be one of the worst HC's in history.
 
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