News: Cowboys DC Mike Nolan Fired

phildadon86 · Jan 9, 2021

DuncanIso said:
It was easy to see that Nolan would fail.

His coaching record over the last decade has been a disaster.

Edwards would be a safe choice. He's an excellent coach and his coaching history is solid at Vikes.

KRichard would be the best choice. But Jerry burned that bridge.

Stop. You sound silly. Richard sucks. Lol. Aren’t you the same guy that said Philbin isn’t a good coach because no one on the OL made the pro bowl?

phildadon86 · Jan 9, 2021

We are apparently interviewing Atlanta’s passing game coordinator? Don’t know his name or have a link. Tom Pelisserro tweeted it. I’m driving and can’t post the link

ICP · Jan 9, 2021

CalPolyTechnique said:
The depressing part of all this is it likely removes the faint chance of Jaylon getting the boot because he’s been gifted an alibi by Jerry that the DC’s scheme was the issue.

Unfortunately with the cap hit Dallas would take I don't think Jaylon was getting the boot anyway

atlantacowboy · Jan 9, 2021

3 DCs in 3 seasons sounds like a recipe for success. :facepalm:

atlantacowboy · Jan 9, 2021

maryquality said:
So, this morning McCarthy said they're working "through the process". I guess the process concluded with the firing of Nolan. Now, let's bring in someone good!! Please!!

..............as if there is a process. Only process I know in Dallas goes something like...... underachieve..... find scapegoat not named Jerry Jones....... then hope lady luck is a cowboy fan next year.

Uncle_Hank · Jan 9, 2021

Edwards wasn't even the real DC in Minnesota. He's been terrible everywhere else he's been. I can't understand why ANYONE thinks this is a good idea.

gimmesix · Jan 9, 2021

Hennessy_King said:
If the scheme sucks and the players get really good at the scheme like marinelli's it can only be so good. It usually is good against subpar comp and even raises bad defenses due to being so predictable. Marinelli's defense allowed us to get torched by sam darnold and the next week darnold was seeing ghosts against belichek. Like I've said i wasn't big on the hire, but after watching the season if you asked who was the bigger problem the players or the coach it was 100% the players. They looked like they never played defense before.

I think it has more to do with who we have as players than the players' ability to understand the scheme. Sure some of them might be slow learners, but it's hard for me to believe that the entire unit is unless the scheme is far too complicated, which I don't think Nolan's was. I do think because the scheme wasn't working that he needed to make changes to it ... and that he was slow to adjust. That's what I hold Nolan accountable for. He had one of the worst Cowboys' defenses of all time, and it's on him for not finding a way to make it better than that.

It's clear that we had personnel issues, though, and until we fix that, it's going to take some kind of miracle worker on defense to turn this into a good defense. Hopefully, whoever is hired next will be able to convince the Joneses in his interview that they have to attack the defense's deficiencies through the draft and with quality free agents.

aria · Jan 9, 2021

Hennessy_King said:
No here's the thing I wasn't thrilled about the nolan hire. But after watching the season and watching tape and these players. I can't place a lot of blame at the feet of nolan

I’m assuming our DVOA was 19th this year, what was it the year before?

gjkoeppen · Jan 9, 2021

gimmesix said:
I think it has more to do with who we have as players than the players' ability to understand the scheme. Sure some of them might be slow learners, but it's hard for me to believe that the entire unit is unless the scheme is far too complicated, which I don't think Nolan's was. I do think because the scheme wasn't working that he needed to make changes to it ... and that he was slow to adjust. That's what I hold Nolan accountable for. He had one of the worst Cowboys' defenses of all time, and it's on him for not finding a way to make it better than that.

It's clear that we had personnel issues, though, and until we fix that, it's going to take some kind of miracle worker on defense to turn this into a good defense. Hopefully, whoever is hired next will be able to convince the Joneses in his interview that they have to attack the defense's deficiencies through the draft and with quality free agents.

I'm not saying that every player on defense was good, but the blame for the defensive failures this season is squarely and totally on Nolan and his defense he installed with no off season programs or preseason games that required the players to play differently than they did before to match his defense instead of a defense that was designed to fit the strengths of the players he had to work with. It did little good to designed and implement a defense that was supposed to make the offenses guess what they were doing when there were players on defense that weren't sure what they were doing because the defense was so complicated and convoluted forcing players to play differently that they have during their careers..
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Cowboysheelsreds053 · Jan 9, 2021

Took this long?

Alexander · Jan 9, 2021

AbeBeta said:
Only guy that Mc is going to insist on is the LB coach as he spent the off year working together. He's already fired 2 if the higher paid assistants with multi year deals. He won't sweat the lower level coaches

McCurley needs to go.

Our entire LB unit could not function. Now I get it that Jaylon Smith's lack of a functional brain is part of the issue, but still.

That is why we see someone with McCarthy ties, who is okay with having a substandard coach or two firmly in place on his staff.

gjkoeppen · Jan 9, 2021

aria said:
I’m assuming our DVOA was 19th this year, what was it the year before?

DVOA is a phony stat because it is based on the teams they played against. The truth is for most of the 2020 season the Cowboys defense sat at 31st or 32nd based on what they didn't do regardless who it was that they played.
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gjkoeppen · Jan 9, 2021

Alexander said:
McCurley needs to go.

Our entire LB unit could not function. Now I get it that Jaylon Smith's lack of a functional brain is part of the issue, but still.

That is why we see someone with McCarthy ties, who is okay with having a substandard coach or two firmly in place on his staff.

I've never been a big Smith fan but having the 3rd most tackles in the entire league tells me that he was doing something right. You also seem to forget that the defense played most of their snaps with just 2 LB's. The Cowboys played a 4-2-5 defense almost always. I put the blame squarely and totally on Nolan and his defensive scheme.
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MCMetal69 · Jan 9, 2021

Unless they bring in a young firebrand (not the Dallas Joneses' style) , I'd have to say I prefer Marvin Lewis................

HungryLion · Jan 9, 2021

I would like Marvin Lewis.

If not. I’m cool with George Edwards.

Shane612 · Jan 9, 2021

Next fall some of you will want Nolan back.
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dagreat1_87 · Jan 9, 2021

so much craziness has been going on, I can't believe i'm a day late on finding this out, but wonderful

Captain-Crash · Jan 9, 2021

Rockport said:
My point is that no matter whom they hire, good or bad, the usual haters will be a hating.

"troll"

Hennessy_King · Jan 9, 2021

gimmesix said:
I think it has more to do with who we have as players than the players' ability to understand the scheme. Sure some of them might be slow learners, but it's hard for me to believe that the entire unit is unless the scheme is far too complicated, which I don't think Nolan's was. I do think because the scheme wasn't working that he needed to make changes to it ... and that he was slow to adjust. That's what I hold Nolan accountable for. He had one of the worst Cowboys' defenses of all time, and it's on him for not finding a way to make it better than that.

It's clear that we had personnel issues, though, and until we fix that, it's going to take some kind of miracle worker on defense to turn this into a good defense. Hopefully, whoever is hired next will be able to convince the Joneses in his interview that they have to attack the defense's deficiencies through the draft and with quality free agents.

That is what i'm saying. You could bring in jesus and he could only do so much with these bums on the defense. The defensive ends looked like they never played contain in the run game and the lbers looked like they never had to play a gap before. It was actually mind boggling watching it.

Hennessy_King · Jan 9, 2021

aria said:
I’m assuming our DVOA was 19th this year, what was it the year before?

We were 16th last year and 23rd this year really wasn't that big of a difference. If dak was in all year to help play keep away this defense would have been top 20

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