Cutting Jaylon Smith (cost and cap numbers)

FuzzyLumpkins

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No question he stays until the cap hit is palatable. Gives us another year of endless thread on him.

I don't think he's going to be cut unless they can get a linebacker in the first 100 pics of the draft. If they can though he could be a June 1 cut because it is pretty much top neutral and you can get that kind of production out of a top 100 linebacker I believe.

ultimately the new coaching staff's going to come in and maybe they can do something with him but he had a thousand snaps last season and didn't seem to get better at all.
 

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The problem is that you still would need a LB. Sure, he's struggled but paying eating up $9.4 million of cap space for him NOT to play for you seems a bit foolish. I think it would make more sense to maybe keep him around one more year under a new DC, if he sucks again, then cut him. I'd also not worry about him or LVE when it comes to the draft - LB should be considered one of many needs we have heading into the 2021 draft.

At this point, I am indifferent on what they do with him, but from a financial perspective, in a year where our cap is gonna be tight, I am not sure it makes sense to eat up that much cap space and then have to go out and find another LB in FA or the draft, and essentially them over $10 million in cap space (Smiths dead money hit + whatever you pay a new LB to replace him).
 

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True, but Jerry will insist he starts.

There's no other explanation for running a guy like that out there.

I mean.....not being a playmaker is one thing, but this guy is actually a liability. He makes the team worse.

How is it that most fans see it but the staff cannot.

The results suggest we are right. Really, what else gives?


What choice did we have? Lee and LVE were hurt throught the year too. Gifford was too i think that's why we haven't seen him. Forget the other backups who rarely played. They see Smith making the tackle, he's in on every defensive play. They see Jaylon smith tackle for 10 yard gain and think thank the lord he made the stop instead of thinking that RB pushed Jaylon back 10 yards before he could get him down. They also think our LB's were better last year under Marinelli so why would all our defensive veterans decline? That's why they made the DC change, cause they all got worse so they do not believe it was a Jaylon thing.
 
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I am pro Jaylon. The issue is not he makes tackles down the field. The problem is he is paid like a top 5 linebacker and the second best player on the defense. He is no where near that. You can’t have him out there being a liability against a simple swing pass. 2018 Jaylon was a playmaker and game changer. This guy the last two season plays like he is Jerry’s chosen one.
I did not say the issue is he makes tackles down the field... making tackles down the field is more important than not making tackles. What I was responding to was the pro-Jaylon argument that he is one of the leading tacklers in the league. This would matter if it were on the other side of the line of scrimmage but when it's 5-6 yards on his side of the line of scrimmage, his number of tackles is less important.
 

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Willing to chip in $100 to see this loser go. Don't think I've ever hated a cowboy this much and I'm not sure why it even bothers me lol

Need a solid DL or great DTs and use him in the correct manner we can successfully hide his weaknesses
 

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This has been posted.....I don't think its gotten bad enough to where they'd cut Jaylon. The people who have a issue with Jaylon are some fans...based on what McCarthy and Jerry has been saying....they don't seem to mind him.

Yes, because Jerry and McCarthy (or any head coach) like to openly discuss whom they want to cut in interviews, smh.
 
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Yes, because Jerry and McCarthy (or any head coach) like to openly discuss whom they want to cut in interviews, smh.
I didn't say they'd openly discuss releasing a player. What I'm saying is when discussing Jaylon there isn't a tone there that they want to get rid of him. They didn't openly discuss cutting Poe or Griffen but they did not speak very highly of them either.

They could release him. I'm saying as of right now that doesn't seem to be the case based on how Jerry's doing interviews about him. Maybe if you keep praying it could happen?
 
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He is getting paid next year no matter what. Is he so bad that his very presence hurts the team? I would say yes. I am sure that none of his team mates wants to see him prancing around trying to build his pathetic brand while they are all hard at work. He is toxic. The sooner we move on the better.
 

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He's not going anywhere. You don't go from a humble guy like when he was when he first got here, to a ego monster like he is right now, without JJ feeding into his ego every chance he gets. JJ loves this guy.
 

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Yes, because Jerry and McCarthy (or any head coach) like to openly discuss whom they want to cut in interviews, smh.
They were openly saying dez needed to get better and bringing up paycuts. They havent said one even close to negative thing about jaylon
 

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Curious to see if they draft a linebacker early to be the head of the defense. Not allow jaylon to do what he’s doing. Jaylon lve and parsons or Collins from round 1? Or does Quinn get surtain ?
 
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No question he stays until the cap hit is palatable. Gives us another year of endless thread on him.

I think he’s done after 2021, unless some miraculous healing happens and his football instincts actually increase like a thousand-fold this next season.

I think there is a similar out for Dallas in terms of savings regarding Tank as well. But that’s highly unlikely based on what he actually contributes.
 

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I think he’s done after 2021, unless some miraculous healing happens and his football instincts actually increase like a thousand-fold this next season.

I think there is a similar out for Dallas in terms of savings regarding Tank as well. But that’s highly unlikely based on what he actually contributes.
Tank is overpaid, but he does a lot of dirty work. A beast in the middle that ate up two blockers would make the two DEs very difficult to control.
 

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Not sure if this has been posted before, but Smith isn’t as non-expendable as people think.

https://sportdfw.com/2020/10/06/dallas-cowboys-jaylon-smith-is-more-expendable-than-you-think/

i sure hope you dont balance your checkbook thinking that somehow theres any savings in spending 9.4mnil and only getting 400k back..that sounds lie, super couponing clipper that think they are saving but they are actually spending money.

having to pay pay a player 9.4 mil to no longer play for you is not saving squat that costing you 9.4 mil instead of 10? lmao that dumb..we can not cut the guy until thats about 50/50..

that goes for al the new big contracts..

lets see how the defense gets some add talent, better coaching, and see how JS integrates with it,.. the lbs all looked bad this year and i suspect it was bad DL play and scheme more so then actual talent..hard to choose a hole to fill when all 4 are wide open and rbs and qbs popping through them like the mole game at the arcade...
 

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His contract isn't getting touched and he isn't getting cut.

Why would he be? Lack of production?

They just paid Tyrone Crawford 9 million dollars for what you just saw this past season.

I disagree with your original opinion, but this is actually a good point LOL
 

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Tank is overpaid, but he does a lot of dirty work. A beast in the middle that ate up two blockers would make the two DEs very difficult to control.

Tank plays as hard as just about anyone I have ever seen...so if he is overpaid at least he is giving everything he has.

The problem with Smith's deal is I am pretty sure that they redid him a year early AND basically paid him toward the top of the market. If they were going to do that they should have got the last year of his rookie deal in before resigning him. Otherwise they should have got a significant reduction for signing him early.
 

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Tank plays as hard as just about anyone I have ever seen...so if he is overpaid at least he is giving everything he has.

The problem with Smith's deal is I am pretty sure that they redid him a year early AND basically paid him toward the top of the market. If they were going to do that they should have got the last year of his rookie deal in before resigning him. Otherwise they should have got a significant reduction for signing him early.
The problem with Smith is that he wasn't even worthy of a draft pick. Not sure what Jerry was thinking with this guy. Feel good stories don't win games, he should have just written him a personal check and wished him well.
 
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