News: Cowboys - Dan Quinn agree in principle on DC deal

aikemirv

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I have learned to temper my expectations. McCarthy is a bum so I don't expect much.

McCarthy is a product of Aaron Rodgers skill.
 

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This puts that Michigan defensive end in the mix at 10 if he's there. He would be ideal for what Quinn asks his weak side defensive end do.

It's also going to be interesting to see what he does with the sam linebacker. I could see Gregory or Smith there.

Big questions are weak side defensive end, nose tackle, back linebacker, free safety, and nickel corner.

We flat out don't have people for that weak side defensive end nose tackle and free safety right now.

You don't think Gregory fits his weak side end? If not, if he likes bigger guys like you suggested, would Aldon Smith? Or maybe Hill slides outside?

I don't like Kwity Paye and I absolutely DO NOT trust letting Quinn pick his players.
 

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The defense under Quinn should be a base 4-3 scheme and one that should be more simple and player-friendly than the one with Nolan. I'm relieved that we got Quinn before Philly had a chance to do so to replace Schwartz. If that came about, those finding fault with what happened with our agreeing in principle with Quinn would really have something to complain about if we got eliminated from signing him by Philly doing so first.
 
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A buddy of mine said to me that maybe Jerry wants to see what a SB championship ring looks like in this century as to why he is hiring MM and Quinn.
 

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Then who did you have in mind that is "fresh, aggressive mind on defense to inspire these guys" . DQ was not my first choice, but he has been successful as strictly DC before so we will see. Those kind of minds are usually employed.

He was successful with Carrol's players and scheme, just like Richards and Gus Bradley. They've all been flops elsewhere and all have had middling defenses at best. That is Carrol's defense. The legion of boom was because of Carrol. He is one of the most gifted secondary coaches ever. Until one of these guys leaves and has success elsewhere, I won't give them credit while working under him.

I thought Edwards would be the natural choice, but I also don't get paid to do this so it's not my responsibility to scout coaches. I also really like the DC for thr Bearcats, but he's probably too green. If you want to pay me what an NFL GM makes I'm sure I could produce an extensive list of coaches I would have preferred.
 

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People keep bringing up Wade. Our d was good in 2007 and 2009 when we actually had a qb. 2008 romo got hurt and 2010 he got hurt is when the defense looked bad. Why was atlantas defense bad? :huh:
 

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This puts that Michigan defensive end in the mix at 10 if he's there. He would be ideal for what Quinn asks his weak side defensive end do.

It's also going to be interesting to see what he does with the sam linebacker. I could see Gregory or Smith there.

Big questions are weak side defensive end, nose tackle, back linebacker, free safety, and nickel corner.

We flat out don't have people for that weak side defensive end nose tackle and free safety right now.

Isn't the weak side DE the 3T this scheme? Would that make the SAM the LEO?
 

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He was successful with Carrol's players and scheme, just like Richards and Gus Bradley. They've all been flops elsewhere and all have had middling defenses at best. That is Carrol's defense. The legion of boom was because of Carrol. He is one of the most gifted secondary coaches ever. Until one of these guys leaves and has success elsewhere, I won't give them credit while working under him.

I thought Edwards would be the natural choice, but I also don't get paid to do this so it's not my responsibility to scout coaches. I also really like the DC for thr Bearcats, but he's probably too green. If you want to pay me what an NFL GM makes I'm sure I could produce an extensive list of coaches I would have preferred.

Quinn did have some success elsewhere. His Atlanta team was 11-5 and went to the Super Bowl his second season. It was 10-6 the next year, when the defense was eighth in points allowed, holding five opponents to fewer than 20 points during the regular season and both of its opponents in the playoffs to 15 or fewer (26-13 over the Rams and 15-10 loss to the Eagles).

Imagine if we had a defense that held any opponent to even 17 points or fewer in the playoffs during some of the years when our offense was actually good. Even in the 2016 playoffs, when his defense wasn't as good and gave up the big Super Bowl comeback to New England, it held its two NFC playoff opponents to 20 and 21.

Now, the last three years haven't been good defensively, so there is some concern there.
 

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GM Jerry trying his best to imitate Al Davis without success all these years.
Hey, Jerry keeps hiring these cheerleader coaches while we have become the Detriot Lions......
Year 27 of hunger coming up.....
 

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Cowboys fans on the Zone act like we hired Rich Kotite as defensive coordinator. Quinn has a history of leading good defenses the last time he was a coordinator and as a head coach we would have been dancing in the street if Garrett had the success Quinn had as a head coach in 5 seasons. Garrett got 10 years.

I personally wanted baby Belichick but he was not available.:facepalm:
 
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