PPF: Dak's contract projection

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Jipper said:
i agree that dak is the right qb, for sure but the defense has to be fixed or this team is not going anywhere. We would be sunk with dalton at qb for sure, but the same could be said if we dont fix the defense. For that reason, at some point, position slotting has to have a cutoff...just not sure what that is now. We really need to have a massive hit on defense in the draft this year, more than ever before if we are going to be competitive again.

I think it is a foregone conclusion dak is signed for 35MM++ with an emphasis on the ++....so its a matter of how much $$ is left to take care of the massive gaps on defense.
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that's the issue at the heart of all of this. bad defensive drafts over the past 15 years. we have had one impact player. Lawrence....and one good player in Jones. the rest have been collosal misses in 1st and 2nd rounds and big gambles. from Claibourne, passing on Ramsey and drafting Taco and passing on Watt. then drafting Lee, Gregory, Carter, Smith, Hill in the second round where Jones likes to gamble. 44 defensive draft picks in 15 years and we have had 2 players we can say were good and we let one of them go.....its pathetic....and FA hasn't been better...Hardy!!!, and this past year...don't get me started......we need to figure out how to get a few good defensive players in the draft...and like you said, hit it massive in this draft. else, its more of the same.
 
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CouchCoach said:
This was his dream job growing up and I assume that hasn't changed. Think he would have ANY of these endorsements if he was a Colt? He has dwarfed Luck in endorsements because he is the Dallas Cowboys QB. Which has also served as the conduit for a high profile job for the last two celebrity Dallas QB's.
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This is overblown times 1000

According to Celebrity Net Worth, Andrew Luck's net worth stands at an estimated $40 million. The 31-year-old had a fair share of endorsements, including sponsorship deals with Nike, BodyArmor, DIRECTV and Panini, per Forbes
 
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jterrell said:
Ummm, not accurate.
France left CAA which is the second biggest company and TOOK ALL HIS CLIENTS with him to the BIGGEST agency.
It was merely a money deal where France was basically a free agent.
France left his high powered clients cooling for a year ot make this move.
Now those new long term deals get signed under the new company.
It gave France the most leverage anyone has ever had over a scouting firm and he obviously got paid a great deal if not a flat %.

Dak's agreed to deal was just under 35M. And France had issues with bonus amount, how money was paid out and length of contract.
Dak got involved and was fine with total amount of ~34.5 AAV but wasn't signing just as is and they ran out of time.

Then what happened?? Dak went with France to the new agency. Same as the Bosas and his other massive name clientele.
France is the 3rd largest player roster with many of the biggest names and likely moves up to number 2 now that he has taken a lot of Sexton's guy with him.

If anything this year has taught Dak that France was 100% right.
The site tied to both agents and NFL teams has just suggested his market value is 5M AVV higher than the best prior deal offered AND for the 4 years he wanted all along.
France was never unreasonable.
Dak made 31.4 Million and returned to free agency.
No one with a brain thinks anyone lost here but hr Dallas Cowboys.
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Lol exactly. These bozos here think they are hiring at the dollar store trying to pay ppl $1 over min wage and saying its a great deal
 
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If Dak want's more money, then he should get on his agent to find a trade partner who will pay him. Dak shouldn't play for less if that's not what he wants to do but then again, the team shouldn't give him a break or make it easy for him to simply extort more then what the team can or will pay either.

I suspect that the whole, "not enough time to get a deal done" at the end of last year was a bunch of BS to begin with. I think that had more to do with France and less to do with The Cowboys so to say that they didn't or wouldn't do a deal is just not true to me. Dak and his representative didn't want to get a deal done. That's the truth of it and that's not on the Cowboys.

So if Dak wants more money, then he and France should find a trade partner. Otherwise, accept the deal on the table and lets get to work.

To me, it's as simple as that.
 

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conner01 said:
He knows he can get Watson money
Why would he take less
No player is gonna do that one their first negotiated contract
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Perhaps. I’m not going to speculate. You asked why any player would. I gave an answer

if you want to focus specifically on Dak, I’d say because the last time he played under the tag he suffered a catastrophic injury that he could’ve been otherwise gtd against.
 
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So, effectively he’ll get a 5/$190M with $147M guaranteed (including this year).
 
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America's Cowboy said:
Strictly talking about your prediction..., the guaranteed portion on this 4 year deal ($115 million fully guaranteed with $75 million at signing) comes out to around $18.75 million guaranteed average per year. If the Cowboys left the total (without guarantees) the same at $158 million, but added an extra year (from 4 years to a 5 year deal) while keeping the total guaranteed portion at $115 million but adding an extra $18.75 million to the fully guaranteed portion at signing of $75 million, thus upping the guaranteed at signing portion to roughly $94 million of guaranteed money, it would look something like this:

5 years, $158 million ($31.6M APY): $115M total guaranteed, $94 million fully guaranteed at signing.

Would this work and be better for both parties?
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By playing on the tag he basically succumbed to getting a 5 year deal. Don’t think he’ll corner himself into a 6 year commitment and not for the same amount of money. That wouldn’t make any sense for him.
 
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Man I wish we drafted Sam darnold or Wentz or haskins so we would value Dak more lol smdh. No matter what we pay him mist of our fans will complain
 
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RamziD said:
By playing on the tag he basically succumbed to getting a 5 year deal. Don’t think he’ll corner himself into a 6 year commitment and not for the same amount of money. That wouldn’t make any sense for him.
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The hard line was 5 years vs 4 years last season so now it's possible Dak doesn't take anything over three years. If that's the case it will be hard to get a deal done. If Dak doesn't like the terms he can play on another tag and hit free agency next offseason.
 
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6-10 sounds like the way it's going to be for quite a while.

That contact will cost this team many of it's best players and make big-name free agency impossible.
 

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Manwiththeplan said:
It's a lot compared to what we could have signed him for following 2018 and even in that window after 2019 but before Mahomes and Watson signed their deals.

The number could easily go up if Lamar Jackson and Baker Mayfield sign deals before Dak
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To me we sign Jameis, a former number 1 pick who is a distressed asset. He led the league in passing yards threw over 30 TD's, yes I know he also threw 30 Int's.
He is worth the gamble. Is is possible to trade Dak? Can we tag him in a way if someone offers him a big contract we can get a pick as compensation?
I would rather build the defense and O line.
 

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erod said:
6-10 sounds like the way it's going to be for quite a while.

That contact will cost this team many of it's best players and make big-name free agency impossible.
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Exactly.. I don't care about how much money he makes I care about the cap impact.
 

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RichmondFan said:
Dak is good, no question but not worth $30 - $40 million. (See Goff and Wentz!!). Let him fly, re-sign Dalton for about $14 million and take the remaining $25 million to sign about 4 defensive FAs and a left guard!! Move up to get Zach Wilson at #7 minus one of your two 3rd round picks (compensatory)! This will right the ship far quicker than signing one player!!
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I like it other than signing Dalton. Find a cheap guy or a distressed assett.
Winston, Darnold, Mariotta type, I really wouldnt mind Darnold. I would rather pay Darnold 10 million a year and see if it can work out. He has arm talent, and you want to take distressed top 5 assets from dumb organizations like the Jets. You know they didn't develop him.
Be smart for once. Don't just do the obvious thing everyone expects us to do.
Dak is a good player, but we already got his best in his first 5 years. The Salary to performance ratio. He threw for nearly 5000 yards, two years ago.. Dont' be dumb!
 
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So an average of 2m a year difference...Dak has already lost more than that the last two years by not signing a new deal. He was offerered an extension similar to Wentz two years ago and then almost 35 million a year last year. He would have been better off with money in hand given his injury and the current environment. We just seem to assume that after this year the world goes back to normal...but who knows for sure?
 
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Every year the market for a QB rises.

Its not Dak fault the cowboys made Dak bet on himself. Every year he proved himself. Mainly last year. No run game, no defense and Dak still was the team.
Every year we wait Dak's contract value goes up. Especially since he is only 27. Jerry and co should of signed him 2-3 years ago. Heck Dak would of signed the contract for 35 mil last year if jerry would of took out the clause that allowed him to be franchised again after that contract was up. Lets not forget Deshaun Watson is contract averages out to 39 million a year.
 
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Hawkeye0202 said:
That sounds about right but I'm guessing the APY will be closer to $38.5M but that's pulling strings. One thing I'm sure of, his APY floor is $37.7M ( amount of 2nd tag )

https://www.pff.com/news/nfl-2021-free-agency-top-100-free-agents
1. QB DAK PRESCOTT
The prize of the free agent market, Prescott went down with an unfortunate injury after just four-plus games in 2020. With four full seasons under his belt, Prescott has finished in the top 10 of PFF grades twice while ranking closer to 20th in the other two seasons. However, Prescott’s 85.2 PFF grade this season would’ve been a career-best, and his 2019 and 2020 work is the most productive of his career.

From a macro view, Prescott’s play dipped as his supporting cast took a step back, but a revamped receiving corps has had Dallas’ offense moving the ball efficiently with Prescott at the helm. With solid accuracy, decision-making and mobility, he has proven capable of putting up high-end production, and he appeared on his way to establishing himself as an annual “top-eight” quarterback prior to his injury.

Contract Analysis: A second franchise tag would be valued at $37.7 million for Prescott, so the two sides finally agree to a long-term extension just above that on an annual basis.

Prediction: Cowboys sign Prescott for four years, $158 million ($39.5M APY): $115M total guaranteed, $75 million fully guaranteed at signing.
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Those numbers would not surprise me at all.


Not to question who deserves what and when at all ...as that has been thoroughly discussed already.......

but just to look at the possible overall roster impact of a new contract that averages 39.5 that is not an extension (so starts our right away probably paying close to the average, especially cap-wise.)

Here that deal's 2021 cap hit compared the cap hit of the final 8 remaining QBs, to get an idea of how it impacts roster building

  • Dak estimated 2021 cap hit 39.5

Current Playoff QBs 2020 cap hit
  • Jackson 2.58 mil (rookie deal)
  • Mahomes 5.35 mil (an extension off rookie deal, goes up next year)
  • Allen 5.87 (rookie deal)
  • Mayfield 9.0 (rookie deal)
  • Rodgers 21.64 (so almost half)
  • Brees 23.65
  • Brady 26.63
  • Goff 28.84
Again, this is NOT an argument about what Dak should be paid. We've beat that horse to a pulp from all angles.
It is just showing the cap cost.
 
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