2021 Cap Space Thread

dallasdave · Jan 11, 2021

Rockport said:

Looks like Dallas is in the Good.

Q_the_man · Jan 12, 2021

Rockport said:

I guess no one saw the Saints wayyyy over there top left

lostar2009 · Jan 12, 2021

Teams rollover unspent money from last year. So what's projected this year + the rollover. Should be enough to sign Dak and a few of our own guys. Not sure how they going to get a big FA in unless they going to cut a big name.

jnday · Jan 12, 2021

J12B said:
Have you looked at Philly's cap situation next year?

If ours is shot then theirs is nuked

I don’t know how they do it, but the Eagles can be $50 million over the cap and still sign all the free agents that they want.

ColoradoCowboy · Jan 14, 2021

Sweet Holy Jesus, what did the Saints DO? How do you get out of $100 million over?

Just a guess, but Marshon Lattimore could be available.

Creeper · Jan 14, 2021

Tussinman said:
The last numbers I saw was 174 million for the top 51 players and 9 million in dead cap. 183 milion total cap number for 2021

Cap projection was 175 million for 2021 and the cowboys had 26 million in 2020 rollover cap. End result was 18 million in free space for 2021

I have seen a few different numbers, but I think your calculation is close to what it will be. I think people are forgetting about dead money. I also think we can't forget about the rookie pool.

We have to figure there will be between $18 million and $24 million in CAP room before they sign Dak. This is why if they have to franchise Dak they are totally screwed. It is also why I have been advocating dumping Amari Cooper and his $20 million salary. The Cowboys are back in CAP jail, something they freed themselves from just a couple of years ago.

garyv · Jan 14, 2021

Oz-of-Cowboy-Country said:
Cap space? We talking about cap space? Who cares about cap space? The Jonses aren't going to know what to do with it anyway. Heck, they'll probably re-sign Awuzie to a twelve million a year contract. Dummies.

JJ said remember my friend your talking about a Hall of Famer

jterrell · Jan 14, 2021

Bowdown27 said:
Supposedly the cap is supposed to be Around 195 million. I know the floor is 175. If it ends up at 195 we should be in good shape

Yes, 192 was one projection based on data available in December.
175 was a floor that was meant if zero fans hit seats.

We won't get a firm number for a while because there will be additional negotiation between NFL and NFLPA.
In the mean time the NFL will swear 175 and the NFLPA 195.
Logically it's probably NOT going below 190.

The details of the new deals leaked because there are like 9 broadcast partners involved.
More Nick games for kids, streaming while also on cable networks and all of that will very much be coming.

Dallas will be fine at worst case.
Best case they extend Dak and have significant cap cash to use as they see fit.

J12B · Jan 14, 2021

ColoradoCowboy said:
Sweet Holy Jesus, what did the Saints DO? How do you get out of $100 million over?

Just a guess, but Marshon Lattimore could be available.

https://overthecap.com/new-orleans-saints-cap-maneuverings-for-2021/

Kolemmitt · Jan 14, 2021

jterrell said:
Yes, 192 was one projection based on data available in December.
175 was a floor that was meant if zero fans hit seats.

We won't get a firm number for a while because there will be additional negotiation between NFL and NFLPA.
In the mean time the NFL will swear 175 and the NFLPA 195.
Logically it's probably NOT going below 190.

The details of the new deals leaked because there are like 9 broadcast partners involved.
More Nick games for kids, streaming while also on cable networks and all of that will very much be coming.

Dallas will be fine at worst case.
Best case they extend Dak and have significant cap cash to use as they see fit.

Yep. You are correct. If it's 190 or 195 million, we will be good.
Yes, we can roll over everything we have left over from this year.
We can add 2 mil by cutting Chris Jones
1.2 mil by cutting Darian Thompson
I think Jerry is in the mood to "go for it" this year, so I can so see DLaw, Martin, and even Cooper restructured.

We will not have to cut anyone and we should be able to add one or two good FAs or several blue-light specials without blinking an eye.

jterrell · Jan 14, 2021

Kolemmitt said:
Yep. You are correct. If it's 190 or 195 million, we will be good.
Yes, we can roll over everything we have left over from this year.
We can add 2 mil by cutting Chris Jones
1.2 mil by cutting Darian Thompson
I think Jerry is in the mood to "go for it" this year, so I can so see DLaw, Martin, and even Cooper restructured.

We will not have to cut anyone and we should be able to add one or two good FAs or several blue-light specials without blinking an eye.

I might be lying to myself lol but I am with you here.
I feel like Jerry wants to go all in and sees the chance with the cap rising very rapidly in coming seasons.

I can totally agree that would be very against the grain of what has happened over the last 3-4 years with Stephen in charge but i think this COVID stuff put mortality in focus for a lot of older folks.
And if Jerry isn't stepping down he's likely swinging for the fences.
The last time they were awful and lost the QB most of the season they rebounded to win 13 games.
But that team was young and ill-prepared to win versus vet teams in the playoffs.
So I am talking myself into Jerry shoring us this team in FA then drafting well too.

Bowdown27 · Jan 14, 2021

jterrell said:
Yes, 192 was one projection based on data available in December.
175 was a floor that was meant if zero fans hit seats.

We won't get a firm number for a while because there will be additional negotiation between NFL and NFLPA.
In the mean time the NFL will swear 175 and the NFLPA 195.
Logically it's probably NOT going below 190.

The details of the new deals leaked because there are like 9 broadcast partners involved.
More Nick games for kids, streaming while also on cable networks and all of that will very much be coming.

Dallas will be fine at worst case.
Best case they extend Dak and have significant cap cash to use as they see fit.

That was my thought as well. We will have room to work

FuzzyLumpkins · Jan 14, 2021

jterrell said:
Yes, 192 was one projection based on data available in December.
175 was a floor that was meant if zero fans hit seats.

We won't get a firm number for a while because there will be additional negotiation between NFL and NFLPA.
In the mean time the NFL will swear 175 and the NFLPA 195.
Logically it's probably NOT going below 190.

The details of the new deals leaked because there are like 9 broadcast partners involved.
More Nick games for kids, streaming while also on cable networks and all of that will very much be coming.

Dallas will be fine at worst case.
Best case they extend Dak and have significant cap cash to use as they see fit.

Worst case doesn't really make much of a difference in my opinion. at the end of the day that just means those other teams are going to have even less cap space themselves in the markets going to have to adjust. You'll see a whole bunch of short-term deals so that vets can go for a better contract in a year or two.

Given that the worst case might actually be best for Dallas considering how they structure their free agent deals. That market being flush would be a bounty.

FuzzyLumpkins · Jan 14, 2021

Too many owners rely on the ever expanding cap and order to manage their teams.

given that I don't see them voting for anything less than the status quo which if I'm not mistaken is 198 million dollars or their about.

I think there's about zero chance that either party is going to want to see the cap drop and that includes the owners.

dogberry · Jan 14, 2021

Will any owners have cash flow problems at $198 million? Bond debt?

TwentyOne · Jan 14, 2021

Man you guys really have not the slightest clue.

Its lost time talking about inside stuff with you.

I suggest you should all listen to Dave Helman and those good looking *****es. They will give you no info but good feelings......

CowboyRoy · Jan 14, 2021

JoeKing said:
As far as cap space goes, the Cowboys are in much better shape than a lot of teams. I don't get why many of you have convinced yourselves the cap situation in 2021 will be bad for the Cowboys.

Because most are dak hating trolls that make up lies in order to wiggle out a credible point.

Cowfan75 · Jan 14, 2021

Oz-of-Cowboy-Country said:
Cap space? We talking about cap space? Who cares about cap space? The Jonses aren't going to know what to do with it anyway. Heck, they'll probably re-sign Awuzie to a twelve million a year contract. Dummies.

Don't forget overpaying for Aldon.

Doomsday · Jan 14, 2021

Around $38 million of that will be gone right off the bat when the tag Dak.

Maxmadden · Jan 14, 2021

Rockport said:

I just noticed the Eagles logo is heading the wrong direction.

Everyone else in the NFL heads to the right.

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