One way the Cowboys have been very fortunate

J12B · Jan 15, 2021

I guess this can be said for all NFL teams, but we've been fortunate that Mahomes, Watson, Allen, Herbert and Burrow are all in the AFC.

A lot (if not all) of the NFC recent QB top picks have been average QBs at best, especially in the NFC East. Wentz, Jones and the Football Team bust out of Ohio State (already forgot his name) are no where near the level those AFC young QBs are at. Goff can say he's been to a SB, but I think we can all agree that he wasn't the reason they got there with their Head Coach and defense. And Trubisky has been a bust.

Prescott is at the top of that young QB list in the NFC, no question about it.

BigStar · Jan 15, 2021

You had me until the last sentence. That's the big fish at the small pond effect. So agree that Dak is one of the better NFC qbs, but saying it's because the AFC qbs are so much better kind of stains it a tad.

He's still 5/6thth even in the NFC; Wilson, Rodgers, Brady, Brees and Goff (just bc of team success more so) But you're right that if those NFC teams hit, we'd be even worse off but ironically is why we want to keep Dak instead of drafting one. The AFC are hitting on their 1st rd QBs, etc.

Jake · Jan 15, 2021

J12B said:
I guess this can be said for all NFL teams, but we've been fortunate that Mahomes, Watson, Allen, Herbert and Burrow are all in the AFC.

A lot (if not all) of the NFC recent QB top picks have been average QBs at best, especially in the NFC East. Wentz, Jones and the Football Team bust out of Ohio State (already forgot his name) are no where near the level those AFC young QBs are at. Goff can say he's been to a SB, but I think we can all agree that he wasn't the reason they got there with their Head Coach and defense. And Trubisky has been a bust.

Prescott is at the top of that young QB list in the NFC, no question about it.

The Cowboys have been fortunate that two QBs they didn't really want to draft - one of whom they didn't draft at all - could actually play.

These jokers have failed - Quincy Carter, Johnny Manziel, Paxton Lynch, Connor Cook - every time they've really liked a QB. Fools. :muttley:

They fell into Romo and settled on Dak. Otherwise, the 21st century would've been even worse. They're clueless, fancy titles (they haven't earned) and all.

CowboyRoy · Jan 15, 2021

BigStar said:
You had me until the last sentence. That's the big fish at the small pond effect. So agree that Dak is one of the better NFC qbs, but saying it's because the AFC qbs are so much better kind of stains it a tad.

He's still 5/6thth even in the NFC; Wilson, Rodgers, Brady, Brees and Goff (just bc of team success more so) But you're right that if those NFC teams hit, we'd be even worse off but ironically is why we want to keep Dak instead of drafting one. The AFC are hitting on their 1st rd QBs, etc.

Brees is done and Goff,isn’t better. Brady is also one year from done.

dak is #3 in nfc.

FVSTONE · Jan 15, 2021

J12B said:
I guess this can be said for all NFL teams, but we've been fortunate that Mahomes, Watson, Allen, Herbert and Burrow are all in the AFC.

A lot (if not all) of the NFC recent QB top picks have been average QBs at best, especially in the NFC East. Wentz, Jones and the Football Team bust out of Ohio State (already forgot his name) are no where near the level those AFC young QBs are at. Goff can say he's been to a SB, but I think we can all agree that he wasn't the reason they got there with their Head Coach and defense. And Trubisky has been a bust.

Prescott is at the top of that young QB list in the NFC, no question about it.

Are you serious?????? I busted a gut laughing so hard when I read your post. Dak, hasn't done anything since his first year and that was only because of the solid line he had in front of him. When the injuries started to pile up, so did the loses. Dak struggles like a rookie when he's facing teams with average to above average records. Also, all those yards he's been piling up the last couple of years have come because teams have such large leads on us that they tend go into prevent defenses because of the double digit leads they have in the 1st quarter. This whole division is loaded with BOTTOM FEEDERS.

BigStar · Jan 15, 2021

CowboyRoy said:
Brees is done and Goff,isn’t better. Brady is also one year from done.

dak is #3 in nfc.

Doesn't change the first part of my comment and you're making my point. Only because the better ones are retiring is the reason for Dak being ranked in the top 5. How many variables you need to make him top 3?

big dog cowboy · Jan 15, 2021

BigStar said:
Doesn't change the first part of my comment and you're making my point. Only because the better ones are retiring is the reason for Dak being ranked in the top 5. How many variables you need to make him top 3?

To be honest, he did say "Prescott is at the top of that young QB list in the NFC" and he is right.

CowboyRoy · Jan 15, 2021

BigStar said:
Doesn't change the first part of my comment and you're making my point. Only because the better ones are retiring is the reason for Dak being ranked in the top 5. How many variables you need to make him top 3?

Nah, any coach would take dak right now over Brady or Brees. But I won’t disrespect either by not giving them their due. If u watch Brees he can barely throw past 30 yards. Brady is my favorite qb of all time.

Trolls like you were calling dak average just last year. Now your having a hard time keeping him out of the top 3 in the NFC.

Flamma · Jan 16, 2021

Jake said:
The Cowboys have been fortunate that two QBs they didn't really want to draft - one of whom they didn't draft at all - could actually play.

These jokers have failed - Quincy Carter, Johnny Manziel, Paxton Lynch, Connor Cook - every time they've really liked a QB. Fools.

They fell into Romo and settled on Dak. Otherwise, the 21st century would've been even worse. They're clueless, fancy titles (they haven't earned) and all.

This is so true. Had it not been by accident, Dallas wouldn't have even had 2007, '14, and '16.

baltcowboy · Jan 16, 2021

J12B said:
I guess this can be said for all NFL teams, but we've been fortunate that Mahomes, Watson, Allen, Herbert and Burrow are all in the AFC.

A lot (if not all) of the NFC recent QB top picks have been average QBs at best, especially in the NFC East. Wentz, Jones and the Football Team bust out of Ohio State (already forgot his name) are no where near the level those AFC young QBs are at. Goff can say he's been to a SB, but I think we can all agree that he wasn't the reason they got there with their Head Coach and defense. And Trubisky has been a bust.

Prescott is at the top of that young QB list in the NFC, no question about it.

Not according to Cowturd. When he was talking about the NFC quarterbacks he was saying how it will be a cake walk for Rodgers and the quarterback competition was only Russ. He talked about Goff, Wince, and Murray but made no mention of Dak. I swear that Cowherd is a member of Cowboys Zone.

QuincyCarterEra · Jan 16, 2021

BigStar said:
You had me until the last sentence. That's the big fish at the small pond effect. So agree that Dak is one of the better NFC qbs, but saying it's because the AFC qbs are so much better kind of stains it a tad.

He's still 5/6thth even in the NFC; Wilson, Rodgers, Brady, Brees and Goff (just bc of team success more so) But you're right that if those NFC teams hit, we'd be even worse off but ironically is why we want to keep Dak instead of drafting one. The AFC are hitting on their 1st rd QBs, etc.

Dak is on par with everyone in the NFC outside of Rodgers when he is on(which has only been this season) and Wilson.

Lol at mentioning Goff above Dak.

BigStar · Jan 16, 2021

QuincyCarterEra said:
Dak is on par with everyone in the NFC outside of Rodgers when he is on(which has only been this season) and Wilson.

Lol at mentioning Goff above Dak.

His team went to the SB, and he's playing today. Dak won a playoff game 3 years ago lol He's on par with Wilson and Rodgers until they are on? Just as long as they don't turn it on he looks just as good...? Sounds like we should reset the market.

BigStar · Jan 16, 2021

CowboyRoy said:
Nah, any coach would take dak right now over Brady or Brees. But I won’t disrespect either by not giving them their due. If u watch Brees he can barely throw past 30 yards. Brady is my favorite qb of all time.

Trolls like you were calling dak average just last year. Now your having a hard time keeping him out of the top 3 in the NFC.

Guess that makes you a Dak troll?

He's top 10-12. Paying 35M a year doesn't make sense until he can beat good teams. We lost 2 games more this year than prior. Guess we should back up the brinks truck?

The OP premise is that he's good because the others are bad (1st rd NFC QB bust rate or declining). You're just saying the same thing. I'm not having a hard time seeing his place in the league instead of being proud that the NFC is watered down; your argument.

What did Dak do last year that was so great besides crapping the bed in PHI and missing the playoffs? Almost beat a team with a winning record?

BigStar · Jan 16, 2021

big dog cowboy said:
To be honest, he did say "Prescott is at the top of that young QB list in the NFC" and he is right.

28 this season is definitely still young (anything before 30 for a QB is in this age tbh) but was comparing it the others who have busted more recently with Haskins, Jones, Trub, and will see with Wentz (not looking good though) He was probably the best of the last two bigger bunches in the NFC QB draft rushes tbh and would say he's better than Murray.

That to me is a little more telling, he's at the top not because of his wins or success, but because of the bust rates and declining QB play of other teams in the NFC. Top "NFC" QB, barely avg AFC Qb?

Makes me nervous paying him with all that put together, etc. Could you have Dalton @ 15 and get a 1st? Would be drop off, but by how much value wise? I don't think anyone would give us the 1st and have to take on needing to renew the contract, so we're kind of stuck tbh.

blueblood70 · Jan 16, 2021

J12B said:
I guess this can be said for all NFL teams, but we've been fortunate that Mahomes, Watson, Allen, Herbert and Burrow are all in the AFC.

A lot (if not all) of the NFC recent QB top picks have been average QBs at best, especially in the NFC East. Wentz, Jones and the Football Team bust out of Ohio State (already forgot his name) are no where near the level those AFC young QBs are at. Goff can say he's been to a SB, but I think we can all agree that he wasn't the reason they got there with their Head Coach and defense. And Trubisky has been a bust.

Prescott is at the top of that young QB list in the NFC, no question about it.

its not luck its called cycles their qbs got older and were bad either one and the team was bad bad teams pick high high picks turn out to be QBs and well that coin flip on how they turn out..

haskins is the kids name. Murray is on the upside and we had Rogers, Wilson, tom brady, Brees, Dak, and others in the NFC still playing well..so really you are looking at this from a skewed angle..it happens..cycles and circumstances create these are just the way it is the last few years..the NFC had better teams for long time i mean LA and SF got to some SBs and we had soe qbs that could put up numbers on bad teams like Stafford and Ryan won an MVP etc..

J12B · Jan 16, 2021

baltcowboy said:
Not according to Cowturd. When he was talking about the NFC quarterbacks he was saying how it will be a cake walk for Rodgers and the quarterback competition was only Russ. He talked about Goff, Wince, and Murray but made no mention of Dak. I swear that Cowherd is a member of Cowboys Zone.

I forgot about Murray.

He certainly can be dangerous but I do think he can't keep up his style of play for more than a few years. And he does have a tough time passing from the pocket due to his size when defenses contain him.

CouchCoach · Jan 16, 2021

J12B said:
I guess this can be said for all NFL teams, but we've been fortunate that Mahomes, Watson, Allen, Herbert and Burrow are all in the AFC.

A lot (if not all) of the NFC recent QB top picks have been average QBs at best, especially in the NFC East. Wentz, Jones and the Football Team bust out of Ohio State (already forgot his name) are no where near the level those AFC young QBs are at. Goff can say he's been to a SB, but I think we can all agree that he wasn't the reason they got there with their Head Coach and defense. And Trubisky has been a bust.

Prescott is at the top of that young QB list in the NFC, no question about it.

Nicely done. I just know there's a pony under all of this horse poo and I'm gonna keep digging.

bewp7 · Jan 16, 2021

wish they was in the nfc so the cowboys could not go into every season with a 8-8 roster and think they are a contender

Motorola · Jan 16, 2021

Under center for the NFC in 2021

Goff_________Winston\Hill?____Rodgers____Heinicke?
Wilson_______Brady___________Trubisky?___Jones
Murray_______Bridgewater_____Cousins____Prescott
Garoppolo?___Ryan____________Stafford____Hurts\Wentz?

CowboyRoy · Jan 16, 2021

BigStar said:
Guess that makes you a Dak troll?

He's top 10-12. Paying 35M a year doesn't make sense until he can beat good teams. We lost 2 games more this year than prior. Guess we should back up the brinks truck?

The OP premise is that he's good because the others are bad (1st rd NFC QB bust rate or declining). You're just saying the same thing. I'm not having a hard time seeing his place in the league instead of being proud that the NFC is watered down; your argument.

What did Dak do last year that was so great besides crapping the bed in PHI and missing the playoffs? Almost beat a team with a winning record?

Daks top 7-5 no question. Qb’s don’t beat teams. But even under that false premise you lose the argument.

Dak is good because he is a great qb. End of story.

Dak has played 4 years and 4 games. If you haven’t figured it out by now you never will. Either way it’s no consequence. Dak is here to stay whether you cry about it or not.

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