Whats this league coming to - Watson

rags747 said:

Owners own, players are employees. This guy makes $40m a year and says he’s not answering any phones from his bosses. Tell that to the people happy as all get out to land a freaking $600 stimulus check. Rather have Dak btw...

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HappyOnions said:

I think Deshaun is a great talent, but he is vastly overrated.

He's got 1 playoff victory and led his team to a 4-12 season. He put up big numbers, but when Dak did the same in 2019, there were nothing but excuses as to why he was successful.

Now there's nothing but excuses for Deshaun as to why he didn't put together a winning season.

He's not trash, but he isn't a top level QB in the league either.

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khiladi said:

The Texans went 10-6 last year, while Watson got sacked 44 times. Has Dak ever been sacked 62 times in one season like Watson?

The difference is Dak has been the issue, while surrounded by talent. He isn’t the one carrying the team. How did Dak do when they got rid of Dez and didn’t have Cooper, while still having the best OL and RG in the league, and didn’t have his HC fired four games in?

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HappyOnions said:

But I'm not trying to prop Dak up, I'm trying to take Deshaun down a few pegs because his resume and the amount of praise he receives do not correlate.

He's the Saquon Barkley of QBs.... always someone else's fault why they don't win...

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MarcusRock said:

Fans have an overexaggerated sense of power (mostly due to denial of not having it). The league knows most of them are drama queens who will huff and puff and threaten and yet do nothing. The last few years and start of this season proves that. It's always laughable when I hear people call for not buying DC merchandise or not showing up to games to get Jerry where it hurts. In the end, people don't like to be left out so they'll watch, show up, and then complain the whole way or risk losing a connection they themselves have made important in their lives.

So the NFL knows that with all the "I'm getting turned off" talk, people will still be there in the end plus new recruits. All this "we have power and will revolt" garbage is just TV-esque fantasy which is why the sour pusses love to imagine the NFL failing due their own sense of powerlessness to have an effect. If the NFL is so unwatchable or damaging to your ego, go. Soccer needs recruits. I've seen people whine for years they're "this close" to leaving. They won't though and if not, then how about "shut up and fan" and don't complain since they're choosing to be part of something.

I think some fans are upset at players who have power to exercise choice because they feel self-hamstrung at exercising theirs. This is why some love recalling the good old days when players didn't have as much power or money which helped them to feel better about their own self-deterministic prospects. Can't do that now, can they? Life's about adapting though. Get to work or be bitter.

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Future said:

It's not millenials who are turned off by that. It's the olds.

The Venn Diagram of people who say "shut up and play," "build around Dalton," and "control the clock by running the ball" is a perfect circle, and it's almost entirely one demographic.

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atlantacowboy said:

I had the opportunity as a young man to work in the academic study hall of a large division 1 university as a way to pay for college. It was all basketball and football players. I wasn't helping them with physics or chemistry. It was more like 4th grade level math and remedial reading. So yeah, I'm not super interested in what they have to say about anything beyond football.

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Cwby41 said:

I don't know, I listen to some of these situations play out and I just don't get it. I know they are not an organization that is ran well but where does any player regardless of how great or good they might be get to pull this off.
I heard Randy Moss the other day and quote " The days of just shut up and play are over" what the hell does that mean?
You are an employee of a business, you have a union, you have a job to do, you have been there X amount of years and just signed a monster contract.
Becaus you have a union certain rules were put in place one of them being after a certain amount of years your a FA free to sign with whatever team you want for whatever dollar amount you want.
I don't know much about Watson except he is a talented guy but I don't care who it is, these guys need to play out contracts and not have the power to hold a team hostage.
Just mark my words, he forces a trade it will change the thoughts of players every time they are not happy. Since when in any business does an employee get to have a say in who is hired or interviewed. Even if they told him that , it shows that they are incompetent and not trust worthy but you neeed to soldier on and play your new contract.
The kids coming in today are very entitled this isn't the way the world works.
Personally I would not trade him, not pay him and just let him sit. I believe their is a clause in the new CBA where players do not get paid when they sit out while on a contract.
I know it would hurt the team but sometimes a little balls goes a long way in sending a message.
He also has other teammates and a city and fan base that he is playing for and that are depending on him.
Feel bad that he is in that situation but after just signing that contract he had the right to wait the contract out. Now that you not only signed it but you have a no trade clause in it. Man up, honor it and yeah Randy "just shut up and play".
Many great players had careers wasted by being in **** organizations, there are only a few solid ones. God only knows we don't have to look far. So on this topic go ahead and fire back, Im not one to start controversial posts but Im hanging on by a thread with this league and the more I see the more turned off I am in watching and supporting these players.

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foofighters said:

What Randy Moss doesn't understand is that the "voice" these players think they are entitled to is the exact reason why fans are turned off. These millenials are forgetting that other millenials don't really care about football and it's the other generations that are the reason for their large paychecks. The end of the NFL is coming.

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MarcusRock said:

Fans have an overexaggerated sense of power (mostly due to denial of not having it). The league knows most of them are drama queens who will huff and puff and threaten and yet do nothing. The last few years and start of this season proves that. It's always laughable when I hear people call for not buying DC merchandise or not showing up to games to get Jerry where it hurts. In the end, people don't like to be left out so they'll watch, show up, and then complain the whole way or risk losing a connection they themselves have made important in their lives.

So the NFL knows that with all the "I'm getting turned off" talk, people will still be there in the end plus new recruits. All this "we have power and will revolt" garbage is just TV-esque fantasy which is why the sour pusses love to imagine the NFL failing due their own sense of powerlessness to have an effect. If the NFL is so unwatchable or damaging to your ego, go. Soccer needs recruits. I've seen people whine for years they're "this close" to leaving. They won't though and if not, then how about "shut up and fan" and don't complain since they're choosing to be part of something.

I think some fans are upset at players who have power to exercise choice because they feel self-hamstrung at exercising theirs. This is why some love recalling the good old days when players didn't have as much power or money which helped them to feel better about their own self-deterministic prospects. Can't do that now, can they? Life's about adapting though. Get to work or be bitter.

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dogunwo said:

Players are not employees. That's your first problem.

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PAPPYDOG said:

Our stud MLB agrees with you....

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rags747 said:

Players are employees which are covered by the Collective Bargaining Agreement which was negotiated by the players union. Show me where the collective bargaining agreement promised employees the right to pick out coaches, general managers, ball boys or shower attendants. Ty...

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JReed1000 said:

Did y’all just wake up from a coma? You seem to forget what Eli Manning did on draft night.

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tyke1doe said:

I say if the players are putting their bodies on the line, and the owners are reaping the money in their cushy stadium boxes, why shouldn't the players ask for more money. It's not like the owners don't have the money.

Have you seen these players after their careers have ended? I've interviewed John Niland, Rosie Grier and other lesser known NFL players. These guys can barely walk. It's almost painful to watch.

I just think the fans are used to the "old system" and don't want their entertainment to be spoiled.

But times are always changing. Think of this as another change in how things are done in sports.

Football will survive.

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cern said:

the owners have allowed the players to conduct business contrary to their contractural agreements. basketball has allowed the players to virtually dictate the game. nba players determine where they want to play. whether or not they will listen to a coach. all because the owners are desperate to win and fill seats. nfl owners are now allowing certain players to do the same. you would think billionaires would stand up and say enough, but the need to generate more profits has castrated them. houston should tell watson you will play here and fulfill your contract, or be in breech and receive no money from us. hold your breath until you turn blue. or they could tell him and his agent to go seek a deal, totally acceptable to the texans, and we'll consider it. but allowing him to dictate terms to the team sends a horrible message.

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Future said:

It's not millenials who are turned off by that. It's the olds.

The Venn Diagram of people who say "shut up and play," "build around Dalton," and "control the clock by running the ball" is a perfect circle, and it's almost entirely one demographic.

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dogunwo said:

Players are not employees. That's your first problem.

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