Jaylon Smith was on the field 98.01% of defensive snaps In 2020

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People on the forum like to use this guy as a punching bag but he was on the field for 1,083 plays which is 98.01% of all defensive plays in 2020.

For the sake of comparison - DLaw was our highest ‘graded’ defensive player this year but was on the field for 667 plays which is 60.36%.

Imagine how much ‘fresher’ Jaylon would be if he played 400 less snaps.

You could make the argument that they play 2 different positions and DLaw in ‘in the trenches’ but Aldon Smith played 809 snaps which is 73.21%. Again, if Jaylon played in 200 less snaps - I think he’d be much more productive and fresh.

People actually want this guy cut even though coming into the season he was voted as the 88th best player in the nfl by his peers and 63rd the previous season.

Does he sometimes miss tackles, get blocked out of plays, and overrun plays? He certainly does, but he’s still a damn good player and I look forward to him improving in a new system & hopefully getting a breather every one in a while. I’d like to see what he can do by taking around ~800 snaps instead of almost 1100 (over 1200 if you include the 24% of special teams plays he’s on the field).
 

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I do think he's our best LB. Problem is, when LVE and Lee can't stay healthy there is no one way to give him a breather. Joe Thomas is adequate but beyond him it looks like a bunch of meh..
 

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98% usage rate is the definition of an every down durable player.

your comment makes no sense
 

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People on the forum like to use this guy as a punching bag but he was on the field for 1,083 plays which is 98.01% of all defensive plays in 2020.

For the sake of comparison - DLaw was our highest ‘graded’ defensive player this year but was on the field for 667 plays which is 60.36%.

Imagine how much ‘fresher’ Jaylon would be if he played 400 less snaps.

You could make the argument that they play 2 different positions and DLaw in ‘in the trenches’ but Aldon Smith played 809 snaps which is 73.21%. Again, if Jaylon played in 200 less snaps - I think he’d be much more productive and fresh.

People actually want this guy cut even though coming into the season he was voted as the 88th best player in the nfl by his peers and 63rd the previous season.

Does he sometimes miss tackles, get blocked out of plays, and overrun plays? He certainly does, but he’s still a damn good player and I look forward to him improving in a new system & hopefully getting a breather every one in a while. I’d like to see what he can do by taking around ~800 snaps instead of almost 1100 (over 1200 if you include the 24% of special teams plays he’s on the field).

Bottom line. Jerry does not pay out big contracts for his players to sit on the bench or stand on the sidelines. Jaylon is a marginal player at best who can't change directions with his injury past. Jerry is sowing what he reaps by signing long term big contracts to marginal players. Jaylon would be best used as a 3rd down rush the QB only but, Jerry has to fool himself that he only signs great players. Another Fail.
 

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I need to spend some time researching how he compares to other LBs. We know he has high tackle stats, but is nowhere to be found in tackles for loss compared to other LBs. I wonder how he compares in things like QB pressures, QB sacks, forced fumbles, interceptions, passes defended, etc. Before I go digging, do any of the big Jaylon fans have any objective data that shows Jaylon near the top of the LBs in the league? With that much playing time, I would imagine he should be pretty high on these lists.
 

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He played the most snaps on the worst unit on the defense on the worst D in the NFL and on most teams, the MLB should be getting the most snaps and tackles.

That said, he did play on the worst defense that struggled to get on the same page with the DC and was inconsistent. He had plenty of company.

He does need to save his energy for making plays and not celebrating.
 

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I need to spend some time researching how he compares to other LBs. We know he has high tackle stats, but is nowhere to be found in tackles for loss compared to other LBs. I wonder how he compares in things like QB pressures, QB sacks, forced fumbles, interceptions, passes defended, etc. Before I go digging, do any of the big Jaylon fans have any objective data that shows Jaylon near the top of the LBs in the league? With that much playing time, I would imagine he should be pretty high on these lists.


Career totals for Jaylon Smith 2017-2020 (54 games)

498 Tackles (304 solo 194 assisted) 2 INT's 20 PD's 6 FF's 5 FR's 1 TD 9 Sacks 20 TFL's 15 QB Hits

Based on 2021 salary cap hit and position, Jaylon Smith would be similar to that of Jacksonville LB Joe Schobert.

Career Totals for Joe Schobert 2016-2020 (65 Games)

549 Tackles (336 solo 213 assisted) 9 INT's 24 PD's 9 FF's 3 FR's 1 TD 11 Sacks 21 TFL's 25 QB Hits


Interestingly though, if you look at what Tampa Bay linebacker Devin White has done in just 2 seasons it's pretty damn impressive compared to Jaylon Smith:

Career Totals for Devin White 2019-2020 (28 Games)

231 Tackles (155 solo 76 assisted) 1 INT 7 PD's 4 FF's 5 FR's 11.5 Sacks 19 TFL's 21 QB Hits


What's most impressive about White is that although clearly he is being used as a blitzing LB more than Jaylon Smith (or gets to the QB more often) look at his solo tackle percentage as part of his total tackles compared to Jaylon Smith: White's solo tackles account for 67.1% of his total tackles whereas Smith's solo tackles account for 61% of his total tackles. In 2020 alone, White had 140 total tackles and his solo tackles accounted for 64.3% of his total tackles whereas Jaylon Smith had 154 total tackles but his solo tackles accounted for 56.5% of his total tackles......which tells me that Jaylon Smith either can't make as many solo tackles thereby requiring help or Jaylon Smith is good at adding to the pile to accumulate tackle totals.
 

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People on the forum like to use this guy as a punching bag but he was on the field for 1,083 plays which is 98.01% of all defensive plays in 2020.

For the sake of comparison - DLaw was our highest ‘graded’ defensive player this year but was on the field for 667 plays which is 60.36%.

Imagine how much ‘fresher’ Jaylon would be if he played 400 less snaps.

You could make the argument that they play 2 different positions and DLaw in ‘in the trenches’ but Aldon Smith played 809 snaps which is 73.21%. Again, if Jaylon played in 200 less snaps - I think he’d be much more productive and fresh.

People actually want this guy cut even though coming into the season he was voted as the 88th best player in the nfl by his peers and 63rd the previous season.

Does he sometimes miss tackles, get blocked out of plays, and overrun plays? He certainly does, but he’s still a damn good player and I look forward to him improving in a new system & hopefully getting a breather every one in a while. I’d like to see what he can do by taking around ~800 snaps instead of almost 1100 (over 1200 if you include the 24% of special teams plays he’s on the field).

His whole game is predicated on his health. So, not surprising he played a lot of snaps. He also sucked.
 

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I need to spend some time researching how he compares to other LBs. We know he has high tackle stats, but is nowhere to be found in tackles for loss compared to other LBs. I wonder how he compares in things like QB pressures, QB sacks, forced fumbles, interceptions, passes defended, etc. Before I go digging, do any of the big Jaylon fans have any objective data that shows Jaylon near the top of the LBs in the league? With that much playing time, I would imagine he should be pretty high on these lists.
I downloaded advanced stats from Pro Football Reference. Here is how he compares with other LBs:

Interceptions: Jaylon had 1. Jaylon was tied for 12th with 33 other LBs.
Completion %: Jaylon was targeted 59 times allowing 42 receptions 71.2% completion %. He ranked 31st (minimum 10 targets)
Yards Allowed: 438. Jaylon was 97th (minimum 10 targets)
Yards Per Target: 7.4. Ranked 76th (minimum 10 targets)
Touchdowns Allowed: 3 Tied for 90th with 8 other LBs (minimum 10 targets)
QB Rating: 102.2 Ranked 64th (minimum 10 targets)
Yards After Catch Allowed: 293 Tied for 102 with 1 other LB (minimum 10 targets)
Blitzed: 45 times - 43rd Most of any LB tied with 2 other LBs
QB Hurries: 1 Tied for 76th with 29 other LBs (minimum 10 blitz attempts)
QB Knock Downs: 2 Tied for 50th with 20 other LBs (minimum 10 blitz attempts)
Sacks: 1.5 Tied for 61st with 3 other LBs (minimum 10 blitz attempts)
QB Pressures: 5 Tied for 60th with 14 other LBs (minimum 10 blitz attempts)
Tackles: 154 2nd best
Missed Tackle %: 5.5% Tied for 19th best with 1 other LB (minimum 40 tackles)

Note: the minimums were put in place to help Jaylon's ratings and not hurt them. If I didn't use minimum his ratings would be lower. Here is a link to the raw numbers:

https://www.pro-football-reference.com/years/2020/defense_advanced.htm

Just putting the numbers out there with no commentary at this time.
 

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I downloaded advanced stats from Pro Football Reference. Here is how he compares with other LBs:

Interceptions: Jaylon had 1. Jaylon was tied for 12th with 33 other LBs.
Completion %: Jaylon was targeted 59 times allowing 42 receptions 71.2% completion %. He ranked 31st (minimum 10 targets)
Yards Allowed: 438. Jaylon was 97th (minimum 10 targets)
Yards Per Target: 7.4. Ranked 76th (minimum 10 targets)
Touchdowns Allowed: 3 Tied for 90th with 8 other LBs (minimum 10 targets)
QB Rating: 102.2 Ranked 64th (minimum 10 targets)
Yards After Catch Allowed: 293 Tied for 102 with 1 other LB (minimum 10 targets)
Blitzed: 45 times - 43rd Most of any LB tied with 2 other LBs
QB Hurries: 1 Tied for 76th with 29 other LBs (minimum 10 blitz attempts)
QB Knock Downs: 2 Tied for 50th with 20 other LBs (minimum 10 blitz attempts)
Sacks: 1.5 Tied for 61st with 3 other LBs (minimum 10 blitz attempts)
QB Pressures: 5 Tied for 60th with 14 other LBs (minimum 10 blitz attempts)
Tackles: 154 2nd best
Missed Tackle %: 5.5% Tied for 19th best with 1 other LB (minimum 40 tackles)

Note: the minimums were put in place to help Jaylon's ratings and not hurt them. If I didn't use minimum his ratings would be lower. Here is a link to the raw numbers:

https://www.pro-football-reference.com/years/2020/defense_advanced.htm

Just putting the numbers out there with no commentary at this time.


Thanks for the research and no comment required as the stats support many members view that Jaylon Smith sucks.
 
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