One of the positive things about Dak

khiladi

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I have tired to talk to you about cherry picking and bias but its always been over your head. Youre still wrong for the same reason.

I do like how you cherry pick anecdotes that are often not factual though.

These actually happened. You don’t even know the difference between an anecdote and actual fact. Dak threw behind his WR in GB off his back foot. He chucked multiple interceptions that game.

Heck, there was an article 2019 talking about how he was going back to it. I’ll let you call this one an anecdote for now, until I decide to actually hunt the article down.
 

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Your reading comprehension is terrible. How does it compute that Rivera made pro bowls in GB and was terrible here means I proved your point for example?

And my entire point about how they declined in play here despite playing with Romo completely escaped you.

You struggle with assuming correlation implying causation and even correlating in the first place. Then there is the issue of uniqueness which is a level of complexity above that you are oblivious to as well.

I called him broke back Rivera for a reason. It can’t be any clearer that when I was referring to the one OL that was at one point good outside Flozell, it was when he was no longer good because his back was shot.

Dude, stop struggling.. You basically admitted they all were mediocrities before Romo came along. You just tried to make excuses that it was because nobody could figure out they played better at other positions all these years..
 

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Wentz has more talent.

Dak is a better team player

Neither are worth a huge contract.

So let's not make the same mistake they did, eh?

But we will.
You just made the argument for $45mil per
 

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is that he appears to be willing to listen and take advice from all sources. And when he screws up he seems willing to take it. Contrast that to Wentz. Jeff McLane is a plugged in beat writer for them and has a story that paints Wentz as a prima donna and pain the butt.

I linked to the summary from Bleeding Green Nation but the main article linked in the story is from the Philly Inquirer and you may need a subscription to read.

https://www.bleedinggreennation.com...hable-insubordinate-nfl-doug-pederson-news-qb
OoooO OH Media drama! For clicks!

Gat damn sign dak for 100 million NOW!!!!

Since he "appears to be WILLING to listen"..
Super bowl baby!
 

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These actually happened. You don’t even know the difference between an anecdote and actual fact. Dak threw behind his WR in GB off his back foot. He chucked multiple interceptions that game.

Heck, there was an article 2019 talking about how he was going back to it. I’ll let you call this one an anecdote for now, until I decide to actually hunt the article down.

Anecdotes and facts are not mutually exclusive ideas. What you don't seem to understand is using anecdotes as proof. I am not going to bother wasting my time trying explain it.
 

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I called him broke back Rivera for a reason. It can’t be any clearer that when I was referring to the one OL that was at one point good outside Flozell, it was when he was no longer good because his back was shot.

Dude, stop struggling.. You basically admitted they all were mediocrities before Romo came along. You just tried to make excuses that it was because nobody could figure out they played better at other positions all these years..


Your narrative is that they were bad before they got here then Romo made them special and then they left and sucked for lack of Romo.

Only one struggling is you trying to make a point. Forest, trees, and all that.
 

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Your narrative is that they were bad before they got here then Romo made them special and then they left and sucked for lack of Romo.

Only one struggling is you trying to make a point. Forest, trees, and all that.

You admitted by narrative was right, which is why you tried to rationalize it by arguing that it was because of ‘the positions’ they were playing..

It’s pretty simple.. Dak walked into arguably the best OL in the game that included multiple all-pro linemen, not pretender pro bowls, and these pro bowlers played together pretty much for a minimum of two years at least.. and further with one of the greatest OL and RG coaches of all time coaching them up.

Comparing this to the mediocrity Romo worked with based on ‘pro Bowls’ is the height of comedy..

Dak-mania tried so hard to leverage the excuses that were actually valid for Romo for themselves, including Garrett’s ‘playbook’ when Garrett didn’t touch anything since 2014..
 
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Anecdotes and facts are not mutually exclusive ideas. What you don't seem to understand is using anecdotes as proof. I am not going to bother wasting my time trying explain it.

https://www.bloggingtheboys.com/201...tent-footwork-is-impeding-the-cowboys-offense

Ah yes, anecdotes..

“So much pressure he’s operating under on those throws! No time! Not his fault!”

- resident Dak-stan

But these consistencies haven’t been on display in recent weeks. Against the Bears, his footwork was all over the place. Many times, he left his stance too open, throwing off balance and forcing his arms to do all the work. The result ended up being wobbly passes and balls delivered just late enough for the defenders to knock them down.

Prescott also threw too much off his back foot. There are times when he can put the sweetest touch on the ball when he’s throwing off balance, but that’s not ideal and he should limit those instances. Sometimes those passes are just terrible throws and give his receivers no chance.

What can be really frustrating is when Dak feels congestion in the pocket, rather than sidestep to give him room to step up and make a good throw, he just decides to take his chances and launch it off his back foot. This results in passes that are difficult for his receivers to bring in, often times sailing away from them.
 

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..what I get from the article, Wentz is a Ego case. That cant forebode well of any player, let alone a QB who has a momentum taking.
 

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The reality is, just like his pre-draft profile stated, his mechanics go shot when he starts feeling the slightest of pressure, even when none is there. Those are clean pockets that QBs can easily get their feet set and throw. And it’s 2019, not 2017...
 

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I remember it was either after his rookie season or during it.

During a press conference Pederson was answering a question from the press about Wentz sometimes sailing passes.

Pederson said there was a mechanical issue with his throwing motion that he needed to adjust in order to address the sailing passes.

later during an interview a press member asked Wentz about the mechanical issue and Wentz said “I don’t think it’s a mechanical issue”. Directly denying what Pederson had said was the problem that needed correction.


4 years later. And Wentz is still sailing passes..........

And.....Pederson no longer has a job.
 

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Anyone remember the rumblings about the Cowboys wanting Wentz?

Then the Cowboys wanted Paxton Lynch.
Then they wanted Connor Cook.

Then they got stuck with that Dak guy.


Damn did we catch a break....

Yeah but they had Dak in like 4 times pre draft. Maybe we got lucky, but they always liked the kid.
 

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How did I move the post when I provided a clear example of him doing it against GB, where he was throwing INT after INT, only to “improve his accuracy” in garbage time? Or you know like when he did the same thing against NE?

Or his pick 6 against the Giants this year?

This is your alleged "clear example."

You claim Dak threw off his back foot..


Here is Dak letting the ball go.. I trust I don't have to explain to you that this photo shows him clearly stepping into the throw with his weight on his left (front) foot.



You claim the ball was "thrown behind the receiver."

Here is the ball in flight with Cooper tracking it.




Here is the ball hitting Cooper in the hands..




Coop basically misplayed the ball. He said so himself. The throw was where it needed to be as the safety was lurking about 5 yards in front of Cooper and leading him too much would have put the ball AND Cooper in harm's way..

If you're going to make up lies about plays maybe make up lies about games played before the DVR was invented.
 

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Yeah but they had Dak in like 4 times pre draft. Maybe we got lucky, but they always liked the kid.
I remember. I’ve even gone as far as thinking would they still have drafted Dak had they traded up for Paxton Lynch....I’m not so sure they wouldn’t have. But they still got lucky. After Jerry’s comments they don’t deserve Zack Martin or Dak.
 
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I remember. I’ve even gone as far as thinking would they still have drafted Dak had they traded up for Paxton Lynch....I’m not so sure they wouldn’t have. But they still got lucky. After Jerry’s comments they don’t deserve Zack Martin or Dak.
Or Drew Pearson, Tony Romo, Mark Tuinei, Nate Newton, Cliff Harris......

Doesn't mean you pay him like he's the Aaron Rodgers of football.
 
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