Stop the Narrative of McCarthy is a Bad Coach

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Records are only one measure of a coach.

Not to be blasphemous here, but our own beloved Tom Landry, from 1966 to 1982, got to 12 NFL or NFC Championship games. How many of those did he win? Only 5.

And that with a top defense for years, Roger, Meredith, Bob Hayes, Mel Renfro, Lilly, Dorsett, R. White, Too Tall, Harvey Martin, D. Pearson and on and on.

But he developed the 4-3 defense and the Flex defense, won 270 games, etc.

You judge a coach by the totality of what he's done, not just championships or wins.

MM isn't one of the top NFL coaches of all time, but "bad"?

Nah...
 
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Blackspider214 said:
Of his inability to get to more Super Bowls with Rodgers. They got a brand new coach and supposedly it's all better now for Rodgers and look at what happened? The same exact thing. Rodgers choking in NFC title games.

I am not saying McCarthy is some great coach but stop with the narrative that he is bad because of how little success he had with Rodgers.

Rodgers is a regular season front runner. When defenses are looser and offense is much easier to come by. This guy folds over and over in big games. And McCarthy was blamed for it all. New coach comes in and same thing.
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He ran into a buzz saw this time. Tom Brady.
This SB was his for the taking.
And I am NOT a fan of Rodgers.


I knew this thread would get started after he lost trying to validate McCarthy.
He’s just not very good.
 
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BourbonBalz said:
What about them? Eli wasn’t Brady, but he was pretty damned good particularly in the playoffs. By the way, he DID beat Brady twice. Just saying. Its not like he was a journeyman or Brad Johnson or Trent Dilfer.
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Eli was more like Joe Flacco. Got hot in a playoff run, but other than that, nothing would suggest HoF. He did do it twice vs. Flacco only once. IMO, Eli’s greatest attribute was his durability.
 
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I need Prescott to elevate the team.

Prescott is a non difference making player. A glorified bus driver.

If he was having this type of career in Chicago or Detroit nobody would think much about him. In Dallas though if you're a decent player we gotta give you a max deal lol.


I know we'll eventually do this deal and I hope like heck that I am wrong and he can pull an Eli but I don't see him doing it.
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The bears have never had a qb throw for over 4k yards and 30tds in the same year..... They would love to have dak.

I really dont get the dak hate. I really dont. It isnt based in reality.

I guess i just assume cowboys fans watch other teams? Based on some of these opinions...clearly they dont. At the very least i figured these fans watched the cowboys between Aikman and Romo. Clearly they didnt.

Maybe its easier to just assume people dont watch football?
 
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Kingofholland said:
Yep, everyone talked about how much better the Packers are without McCarthy. Well unless LaFleur wins 2 super bowls with the Packers there's little proof to support that argument.

Fans assume because Rodgers is a future hall of famer he should have won many Super Bowls. It's hard to make it to the Super Bowl and win it multiple times in your career. Tom Brady is a ridiculous exception to pretty much every rule. The average hall of fame QB has won 2, but there are plenty of guys that have 1 or none.
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Only 11 guys have won more than 1. Steve Young is HOF and has 1. The idea that Rodgers is overrated is one of the biggest jokes. It’s embarrassing it is brought up on this board. He had 346 yrds, 3 TDs, 1 int and a 101.6 rating. How is that a choke? Spider is clueless
 
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JustChip said:
Eli was more like Joe Flacco. Got hot in a playoff run, but other than that, nothing would suggest HoF. He did do it twice vs. Flacco only once. IMO, Eli’s greatest attribute was his durability.
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I’ve never thought Eli was a HOFer, but some act like he was a journeyman. He was a good starter for a lot of years and won two Super Bowls. Did he do it on his own? Of course not. Nobody does. But he did get his team to the playoffs where he won it all twice.
 
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DeaconMoss said:
Trent Dilfer, Joe Flacco Eli, Rypien and Brad Johnson say HI!
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Dilfer and Johnson had extremely dominant defenses and very good run games. Those Super Bowls were also 20 or so years ago. The game has changed. Eli was a very good starter for over a decade. Flacco also had a dominant defense and an overall excellent team. He played lights out in the playoffs that year. Rypien was far from a great QB, but he had a fantastic season the year they won it all. That offense was awesome, as much as I hate to say it. Look at the QBs that have won Super Bowls the last 10-15 years. They were very good to excellent.
 
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BourbonBalz said:
I’ve never thought Eli was a HOFer, but some act like he was a journeyman. He was a good starter for a lot of years and won two Super Bowls. Did he do it on his own? Of course not. Nobody does. But he did get his team to the playoffs where he won it all twice.
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As we all know stats aren't everything, or proof of greatness, or lack of greatness.

But passer rating, since it encompasses multiple stats inside it, is to me a pretty good indication.

Eli's best rating was 93.6, and 11 times it 87.2 or less. Romo had 7 ratings better than Eli's best rating.

He'll make the HOF I think because of the two SB wins, and because he played in a high market area. Personally I don't think he deserves it.

Of course I don't think Kurt Warner does either, yes he was great for a 3 year period, other than that, not much. Playing with Marshall Faulk, Isaac Bruce, etc. he had tons of help.

But that's just me...
 
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Starforever said:
Who doesn't know that? My point is Rodgers, only has one ring, and nothing since McCarthy left; he just lost at home, with home field advantage.
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Yeah and - seriously - he should ask himself if this is still the right franchise for him.

Look what TB did to support Tom.
And then look what GB did for Rodgers.

They drafted love who right now is third string.
They drafted a RB who also is third string right now.

They essentially said: Look Aaron, we will prepare for the future without you. They did not say "we believe we will win with you".

Id have a problem with such a franchise. And i would not wonder if Rodgers leaves GB this offseason.
After all this guy is one of the greatest QBs of the last decade. And he still is playing on a very high level.
 
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