Goff traded for Stafford

BourbonBalz · Jan 31, 2021

DFWJC said:
Yeah...right.
So Stafford just happens to be th only one that list that "it doesn't mean anything" I guess, in your view.
Just a coincidence that the list a full of HOFers or future HOFers.

He also is the NFL's all-time leader in 4th quarter game-winning drives.

I get that his team sucked so they played from behind, but GMs around the league--and especially players--will tell you Stafford is a monster.

LOL. Maybe the Cookie Monster.

Swagger · Jan 31, 2021

DandyDon52 said:
they built the defense while mahomes was on his rookie deal. So by the time he got paid the defense is already good. In fact offense defense, is all good
at point they paid mahomes. They did it right.
Also they have better def coaches.

Also better at working the salary cap i.e. being able to sign Mahomes, Hill and Kelce long term whilst also being able to sign the likes of Mathieu, Clark and Bell via free agency - not over the hill gash unlike other teams...

DFWJC · Jan 31, 2021

Turk said:
89.9 career rating says he is good but NOT a monster.

Let us be very blunt here:

If your career rating is not pushing 100 you are not elite. Mathew Stafford is 15th in active NFL QB ratings.

THAT is NOT a monster.

Well, Stafford is not Aaron Rodgers.....almost nobody is. But even Aaron Rodgers thinks Stafford is special and elite.
When people were discussing comparables (arm talent--strength, arm angle, accuracy, etc) to Mahomes, he said you need to look to Detroit to find that answer.

Mainly though, Offensive lines and run games drastically affect your QB ratings
Just look at Tannehill for exhibit A

A career high 80s QB rating.....moves to Tennessee....
He led the league in QB rating last year and was near the top again this year.
Beastly oline and run game will add 10 points minimum.
Tannehill is no Stafford.

Plus QB ratings have drifted up over time.
A 90 QB rating in the 90s is like a 105 now.
I saw a "time-adjusted" QB all-time QB list earlier this year and Stafford's came in at 98.5.....even in crappy Detroit.

DUO_CORE · Jan 31, 2021

Was Jimmy Johnson secretly working the phones on Detroit's behalf?

CWR · Jan 31, 2021

SeanLee50 said:

Im glad Washington didn't get him, although I thinks its stupid to give up that many draft picks for an older QB.

TheMarathonContinues · Jan 31, 2021

How people talk about this trade is how people talked about Jay Culter to the Bears lol....gonna have the same fate too.

CWR · Jan 31, 2021

Rayman70 said:
Does he? I think its not so simple. They lack a true number 1 RB..the oline on the right side is a mess...and Stafford has had lingering back issues the last 2 years at least. This was a huge gamble. I admire the fact they put all their chips in the middle of the table.

Akers looked damn good towards the end of last year. I think they are fine with him and Henderson.

Joe Realist · Jan 31, 2021

Insane to give up all that for a 33 year QB, just to get Goff off the books. Crazy prediction - Rams release Stafford after 2021, with one year left on deal and sign Dak, who is FA and coming off the tag again.

Swagger · Jan 31, 2021

CowboysWillRise said:
Akers looked damn good towards the end of last year. I think they are fine with him and Henderson.

Agree. I don't really see how Akers didn't look like the complete back towards the latter part of last season. There's only one Derrick Henry! Others shouldn't be compared against him.

dckid · Jan 31, 2021

phildadon86 said:
Why is his completion percentage so high? On deep throws and everything else y’all tried to debunk for the last 5 years?

Bro, I am not debunking anything. I like Dak. I was happy he took over for Romo. Just like Romo, Dak is replaceable. We got the best years of Dak at his production/ salary. We didn’t win and couldn’t capitalize on him making 500k now suddenly him making 40 million a year with an aging Oline and Swiss cheese defense will do sometimes. Trade him get more assets and move on. Dak is not Mahomes.

coult44 · Jan 31, 2021

Risen Star said:
This is literally one of the dumbest trades I've ever seen. In any sport. I assumed Schefter had a poorly worded tweet with those details. Surely not all those picks are going to Detroit.

If they win a super bowl is it worth it?

quickccc · Jan 31, 2021

if massive spending per trade and FA and sacrificing of No.1 draft picks is how the Rams persist in their own version
Win Now mode ,,so be it to them and more power them

Thats' not how i prefer to see the Cowboys Win Now strategy. i'm not for sacrificing No.1 picks (that could more cornerstone players ) for the next seven years

and it's not like Stafford is Aaron Rodgers or Tom Brady ,..great HOF QBs - if i had to gamble and invest that much for an aging starting QB,
it'd had to be the likes of those two aging HOFers that are clearly still playing on an HOF level but for an aging Stafford whose a solid QB
at best ?

Like i said more power to them if thats the path the Rams chose - but i prefer finding a middle ground FA gem while continuing draft nucleus with the Cowboys.
:clap:

CouchCoach · Jan 31, 2021

rocyaice said:
How is it any different? The only person saving that franchise from being the Cowboys is McVey and that’s a huge difference between us and them.

I don't understand the question. There is a huge difference between the Rams and Cowboys, from top to bottom.

CouchCoach · Jan 31, 2021

quickccc said:
if massive spending per trade and FA and sacrificing of No.1 draft picks is how the Rams persist in their own version
Win Now mode ,,so be it to them and more power them

Thats' not how i prefer to see the Cowboys Win Now strategy. i'm not for sacrificing No.1 picks (that could more cornerstone players ) for the next seven years

and it's not like Stafford is Aaron Rodgers or Tom Brady ,..great HOF QBs - if i had to gamble and invest that much for an aging starting QB,
it'd had to be the likes of those two aging HOFers that are clearly still playing on an HOF level but for an aging Stafford whose a solid QB
at best ?

Like i said more power to them if thats the path the Rams chose - but i prefer finding a middle ground FA gem while continuing draft nucleus with the Cowboys.

You have a much higher regard for the draft nucleus of the Cowboys than I. I think they're very average at drafting.

CouchCoach · Jan 31, 2021

coult44 said:
If they win a super bowl is it worth it?

Yes, because that is their goal and form the owner to the Gm to the HC, they're all aligned with that. They're all in on Stafford as the guy to take them there.

phildadon86 · Jan 31, 2021

dckid said:
Bro, I am not debunking anything. I like Dak. I was happy he took over for Romo. Just like Romo, Dak is replaceable. We got the best years of Dak at his production/ salary. We didn’t win and couldn’t capitalize on him making 500k now suddenly him making 40 million a year with an aging Oline and Swiss cheese defense will do sometimes. Trade him get more assets and move on. Dak is not Mahomes.

He doesn’t want 40 million. And we can build a defence thru the draft. And have a 2-3 year window. Just have to hit on our picks

CouchCoach · Jan 31, 2021

Don't look now but there is a stirring in the East. The Rams might have just given the template to move Wentz and the Colts who were one of the three teams at the top for Stafford have his ex OC as their HC. If not, the Niners are still QB hungry and they can deal Grabmypolo.

CouchCoach · Jan 31, 2021

phildadon86 said:
He doesn’t want 40 million. And we can build a defence thru the draft. And have a 2-3 year window. Just have to hit on our picks

Shazam, that's it!! Hit on the picks. Why didn't we think of that before Charleton, Hill, Smith and Vander Esch?

I agree, that 40M was floated by the Jones trying to make him look greedy, we do not know what the magic number is. But soon, all will be revealed.

TheMarathonContinues · Jan 31, 2021

CouchCoach said:
I don't understand the question. There is a huge difference between the Rams and Cowboys, from top to bottom.

That may be the case but the moves they've made aren't any different than what Jerry would do. They are incredibly reckless moves. They've wasted Aaron Donald's prime just like Jerry did Ware's.....

quickccc · Jan 31, 2021

Risen Star said:
Which brings up one question we're all thinking but as usual you look to your leader to ask it.

If that was the asking price for Stafford why didn't the Cowboys do it?

Pffft.

Because the Cowboys remain more confident and content of their QB and leader than what the Rams or Detroit were their own .
Even if it appears that the Cowboys Jones want to have their cake and eat it to with their contract negots and offers

Goff traded for Stafford

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