What pick 10 will reveal

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Preface: I recently posted this in another tread, but thought it worthy of its on post. The question was.. “would you be upset if Dallas drafts a OL at #10?” Below are my thoughts.. feel free to berate or agree.. I’d love to hear other’s opinions.

I’ve been struggling with the question “to draft an OL at 10”. Like most, I recognize the obvious void on defense..specifically on the DL. Yet, we all witnessed how volatile the OL was last season.

A reasonable mind understands that injuries played a big part in the OL decline. But, recent history reveals this is becoming an unwanted trend with TSmith, not to mention nobody knows the severity of Collins hip injury.

The good news is.. I have no worries ab Martin’s return and Biadasz’s development. Conner McGovern showed real improvement by seasons end and CWill held his own as the only remaining starter.

Last seasons silver lining is.. young guys like McKnight and Steel gained valuable play and did show improvement, as backups that means everything. In the NFL the reality is, unless your a 1st Rd OL stud, the learning curve is ab 2-3 years before your ready to man a OL position. That said, Dallas shouldn’t completely ignore the position in the draft, but I think I’m (and so is our defense) ready to see the player talent investment needed on defense.

All reports are that there’s not a DL worthy of a top 10 pick, so that leaves CB as the only choice in my mind. CB’s have always beenone of the more important players on the team, but even more so via the NFLs pass happy trend. Dallas needs another playmaker at corner and add another veteran CB for good measure just to stay relevant on defense. And much like OL, if you want a starting CB from day one, you better draft them early. Shore up DL, LB, S, OL with the rest of the draft.

If all goes well here’s the projected OL (fingers crossed):
Starters
LT- Tyron Smith (his contract gives you no choice)
LG- C. McGovern (he’s better than CWill at G)
C- Biadasz (he’ll have a breakout season)
RG- Zack Martin (future HOF’er)
RT- Collins (just got paid, hopefully he’s healthy)

backups
1st reserve- CWill- obviously can play G, but should have a chance at OT as he played it well in college
Swing OT- resign a vet like Cam Fleming to complete with McKnight & Steel
G- This draft is supposedly deep with OL talent, Draft a 3rd/4th Rd guy to develop bc we can NOT use a 1st Rd pick for every position. Move Mitch Hyatt to G and see if his stone feet will do for a season.

Long story short.. Dallas shouldn’t have to pull the trigger on an OL in the 1st Rd this year. At this point..Dallas has made their bed with their OL contracts, deal with it. The defense has to be better. I don’t care if this is a “Passing” league.. defense still wins championships.

The only caveat is Collins and Smith’s health. If Dallas truely thinks they won’t return to atleast 80-90% healthy, than a 1st rd OL IS THE TOP NEED. Not only to keep Dak upright when he returns from his injury, or to keep open running lanes for our expensive RB, but to also allow our top receiving core to excel. Bottomline.. the OL is the heart of this team. And if Collins and Smith aren’t capable, then Dallas has to draft a OL.

Who Dallas picks at 10 will be telling..
 
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Preface: I recently posted this in another tread, but thought it worthy of its on post. The question was.. “would you be upset if Dallas drafts a OL at #10?” Below are my thoughts.. feel free to berate or agree.. I’d love to hear other’s opinions.

I’ve been struggling with the question “to draft an OL at 10”. Like most, I recognize the obvious void on defense..specifically on the DL. Yet, we all witnessed how volatile the OL was last season.

A reasonable mind understands that injuries played a big part in the OL decline. But, recent history reveals this is becoming an unwanted trend with TSmith, not to mention nobody knows the severity of Collins hip injury.

The good news is.. I have no worries ab Martin’s return and Biadasz’s development. Conner McGovern showed real improvement by seasons end and CWill held his own as the only remaining starter.

Last seasons silver lining is.. young guys like McKnight and Steel gained valuable play and did show improvement, as backups that means everything. In the NFL the reality is, unless your a 1st Rd OL stud, the learning curve is ab 2-3 years before your ready to man a OL position. That said, Dallas shouldn’t completely ignore the position in the draft, but I think I’m (and so is our defense) ready to see the player talent investment needed on defense.

All reports are that there’s not a DL worthy of a top 10 pick, so that leaves CB as the only choice in my mind. CB’s have always beenone of the more important players on the team, but even more so via the NFLs pass happy trend. Dallas needs another playmaker at corner and add another veteran CB for good measure just to stay relevant on defense. And much like OL, if you want a starting CB from day one, you better draft them early. Shore up DL, LB, S, OL with the rest of the draft.

If all goes well here’s the projected OL (fingers crossed):
Starters
LT- Tyron Smith (his contract gives you no choice)
LG- C. McGovern (he’s better than CWill at G)
C- Biadasz (he’ll have a breakout season)
RG- Zack Martin (future HOF’er)
RT- Collins (just got paid, hopefully he’s healthy)

backups
1st reserve- CWill- obviously can play G, but should have a chance at OT as he played it well in college
Swing OT- resign a vet like Cam Fleming to complete with McKnight & Steel
G- This draft is supposedly deep with OL talent, Draft a 3rd/4th Rd guy to develop bc we can NOT use a 1st Rd pick for every position. Move Mitch Hyatt to G and see if his stone feet will do for a season.

Long story short.. Dallas shouldn’t have to pull the trigger on an OL in the 1st Rd this year. At this point..Dallas has made their bed with their OL contracts, deal with it. The defense has to be better. I don’t care if this is a “Passing” league.. defense still wins championships.

The only caveat is Collins and Smith’s health. If Dallas truely thinks they won’t return to atleast 80-90% healthy, than a 1st rd OL IS THE TOP NEED. Not only to keep Dak upright when he returns from his injury, or to keep open running lanes for our expensive RB, but to also allow our top receiving core to excel. Bottomline.. the OL is the heart of this team. And if Collins and Smith aren’t capable, then Dallas has to draft a OL.

Who Dallas picks at 10 will be telling..

If the team gets wiped out at corner and cannot trade back, I have zero issues taking Slater or Darrishaw at 10. Both are plug and play lineman in which the team can play their best 5 and have Tyron's successor already on the roster. Like Slater more due to his position flex, but Darrishaw might be the better long-term Tackle prospect.
 

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If the team gets wiped out at corner and cannot trade back, I have zero issues taking Slater or Darrishaw at 10. Both are plug and play lineman in which the team can play their best 5 and have Tyron's successor already on the roster. Like Slater more due to his position flex, but Darrishaw might be the better long-term Tackle prospect.

Not arguing..

Just want to know who our best four at corner is?

or

who our best four on DL is?

Point: I’m all for BPA at 10.. but let’s be honest. Shades of need are always factored into the decision. And right now.. our OL is in better shape than the DL or secondary no matter how much lipstick we put on this pig.
 

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Not arguing..

Just want to know who our best four at corner is?

or

who our best four on DL is?

Point: I’m all for BPA at 10.. but let’s be honest. Shades of need are always factored into the decision. And right now.. our OL is in better shape than the DL or secondary no matter how much lipstick we put on this pig.

You are assuming the OL is fully healthy. Keep in mind both our Tackles in essence missed the entire year, Martin missed multiple games and their all-pro center retired. Clearly our OL is aging and starting to breakdown. At the top of this draft, it leans heavily to the offensive side, matter of fact BPA would most likely be an offensive player. Corner offers the best positional value and that's the likely direction they take.
 

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If OT is the best player available at #10, you draft the next Tyron Smith, lock him in for the forseeable future, and you look to flip Tyron for picks at some point this season. You drive the cost of the OL DOWN and you get salvage value out of Tyron while you can.

Then you try to get appropriate value out of the second round pick and two thirds on the defense if you can.
 

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You are assuming the OL is fully healthy. Keep in mind both our Tackles in essence missed the entire year, Martin missed multiple games and their all-pro center retired. Clearly our OL is aging and starting to breakdown. At the top of this draft, it leans heavily to the offensive side, matter of fact BPA would most likely be an offensive player. Corner offers the best positional value and that's the likely direction they take.
I think going corner at #10 is probably a mistake.
 

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You are assuming the OL is fully healthy. Keep in mind both our Tackles in essence missed the entire year, Martin missed multiple games and their all-pro center retired. Clearly our OL is aging and starting to breakdown. At the top of this draft, it leans heavily to the offensive side, matter of fact BPA would most likely be an offensive player. Corner offers the best positional value and that's the likely direction they take.

Obviously you didn’t read my entire post, as I mention that scenario..

I’m not assuming anything ab the health of the OL and agree that OL may be the TOP NEED. But if Smith and Collins show any indication that they will be healthy and ready.. then defense should be the pick. And CB lines up nicely at pick #10
 

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If the team gets wiped out at corner and cannot trade back, I have zero issues taking Slater or Darrishaw at 10. Both are plug and play lineman in which the team can play their best 5 and have Tyron's successor already on the roster. Like Slater more due to his position flex, but Darrishaw might be the better long-term Tackle prospect.
Slater needs to move inside to OG.
 

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Slater needs to move inside to OG.
If thats the case then no way Dallas can take him at 10.....or anywhere early at all.

He would need to play tackle.

There has to be the same concerns with Sewell. What else dropped him from a top 5 lock to in the discussion at 10 on mocks?
 

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Rule #1 of the draft: pick a good player. At #10, there should be plenty of them.
Exactly. Someone will fall or someone real good will be there. We’re in a good position. Now losing to Frisco would have helped out pick status but whatever LOL
 

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Crappy year to have the 10th pick when you are dying for an elite DT.

We may be forced to take an OT at 10, which frankly, doesn't really change the trajectory of this franchise IMO.
 

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I am not sold on Slater. He is described as a "slightly undersized" OT and he struggles with inline power. Who does that sounds like?
 

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If OT is the best player available at #10, you draft the next Tyron Smith, lock him in for the forseeable future, and you look to flip Tyron for picks at some point this season. You drive the cost of the OL DOWN and you get salvage value out of Tyron while you can.

Then you try to get appropriate value out of the second round pick and two thirds on the defense if you can.


Tyron Smith is pretty much done and probably closer to retiring than playing with all his injuries. I dont think you can get value off him in a trade.

If theres really the future LT sitting at 10 you pick him and either start him or let him learn one year behind T.Smith. After next season cutting T.Smith wont hurt that much in terms of dead money.
 

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Same. He's probably the front runner for me right now.
You're HOPING that it breaks that TE is BPA at 10?

Unless its for someone wanting to move up for him, I can't see rooting for that.
 

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You're HOPING that it breaks that TE is BPA at 10?

Unless its for someone wanting to move up for him, I can't see rooting for that.

If you can get an all pro, regardless of position, you've done a good job in the first round. Pitts seems to have that potential.
 

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We have two big Holes
DT and DB
We have 1 young SS Williams.
Two DT , Hill and Gallimore
We only have Diggs and Brown at CB , the rest are URFA.
The Lb Corp is weak.

Do you think we need defesive players?
I know the answer
 
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