News: Latest on Dak’s Injury

gjkoeppen

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I like Dak. A lot. I want him paid. But this makes it sound like he’s done. The fact that they hid it is not good. How sad that the mighty class of 2016 has fallen. He will be tagged this year, guaranteed. And if he looks stiff or like his ankle isn’t recovered, he’ll be released/let into FA for 2022.

this time next year, we’ll be drafting a new QB as of right now.




Is this with no MD degree or the one you got in a box of Cracker Jacks?
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I hope someone saves this thread and rehashes it once Dak’s back healthy. Some of y’all are so weird lol. Who reads this and thinks, “yeah this guys done.” Reading comprehension is not a strength on CZ.

Shoutout to the actual doctor for inserting some sense into this thread.
It's like jimmy saying he wanted stafford over dak. Except that he didn't and it was read that way to fit a narrative and agenda.
 
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No surprise that those who despise Dak, calling him gimp, etc. don't think he will recover. I'm sure they hope he Nevers plays again. That will please them.

I don't know how far along he is, but if he is walking with no limp, and doing weight bearing exercises, I'm guessing he will be ready when OTA's start.
 

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Will Dak want to start the season? Sounds like a strange question, but think about it from a agents or financial perspective. What will his agent recommend?

We'll assume he gets tagged - so 37m guaranteed.

As I mentioned earlier, any athlete who has been out with a serious injury for months is very unlikely to hit the ground running (excuse the pun). First few games back will likely be sub par.

MM has used his free pass in 2020. He's now under pressure to deliver. If Dak starts the season slowly he WILL be pulled after 2-3 games. MM cant afford another mediocre season or he's out of a job. Any hope of a big contract for Dak will be gone.

Alternatively, it makes sense for Dak to go on IR and resume training midseason. Gives him extra recovery time and half a season of practice and reps, and possibly some gametime in meaningless late season games before he hits frew agency again. Allows him to hit FA fully fit, without the aches and pains of a full season.

Look at this financially. Last year it was reported Dak was seeking 100m guaranteed. He got 31 last season for part of a season. Another 37 this season for simply rehabbing. So 68m without having to do much or the reputation risk of a slow return from injury. Chances are some team will give him at least a 2-3 year deal with 32+ guaranteed. May not be the headline mega deal, but achieves the same aim (or more) without the risk and wear and tear of playing !!! And over a shorter period. No brainer.




Part of what you said is just BS and part of it might be right if you actually had a real MD degree and not the one you got in a box of Cracker Jacks. First a player's agent has ZERO to do with if a player starts from the beginning of the season. If Prescott doesn't sign a long term deal before free agency, he'll get tagged again in which both cases France has ZERO say in whether Prescott starts. The doctors and trainers who have actually been the ones working with Prescott who didn't get their degrees from Cracker Jacks have said that Prescott6 is a head of schedule on his rehab and will be ready long before the season starts.

It's more than obvious that you're trying to make things look as bleak as possible because of your agenda of not wanting Prescott to play and not on the Cowboys, but you have less than zero real evidence to support your fairy tale.
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So a broken ankle that required surgery and then another surgery unrelated to the broken ankle but rather earlier injuries isn't a concern?

Well, forgive me if I do not want to use a ladder to climb up on a roof that had multiple repairs to it.



And you got your medical degree from where? A box of Cracker Jacks and then where did you do all your surgical practice at? One of the ACL surgeries I had I was told after I was in recovery that the surgeon also took care of a very small amount of calcium build up on my knee cap from an obvious prior non serious injury that he also cleaned up. Yes there can be other non-serious injuries that can be cleaned up that have nothing to do with the current injury.
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Jerry's trying to be a nice guy offering Dak a contract but this Reminds me of the old saying,
"The road to hell is paved with good intentions."
This team is on its way there if they sign Dak.
 

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As a physician, how common is deltoid ligament surgery? Uncommon according to the internet (yeah I know it is the internet) and used for grade 3 injuries. Would you be concerned if the ligament was torn and they had to pull tissue from another ligament? As a physician, what is the typical recovery time to be able to play football from deltoid ligament surgery? As a physician, is surgery usually a last resort for deltoid surgery and means that they gave it two months to heal and it did not? Or does it mean the deltoid ligament was torn and they first had to wait for the broken bone to heal before they could deal with the ligament? I have no idea but I see cause for concern.

I am an engineer and not a doctor but I definitely see some cause from concern just reading a little on deltoid ligament surgery.

And why the two month delay and sunshine-pumping from unnamed ‘sources’ who likely are not even doctors?




First off what you find on the internet is generalized info not based on an individual case and a decision made by the surgeon who was actually doing the procedure. Next the wait was to make sure that no infection started like what happened with Alex Smith. Next the repair of the deltoid ligament was notice during the original surgery as an old injury not part of the injury that caused the first surgery so they went in and fixed that and cleaned up some other things to make his ankle stronger. You might be a good engineer but leave the medical stuff to real doctors.
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I like Dak. A lot. I want him paid. But this makes it sound like he’s done. The fact that they hid it is not good. How sad that the mighty class of 2016 has fallen. He will be tagged this year, guaranteed. And if he looks stiff or like his ankle isn’t recovered, he’ll be released/let into FA for 2022.

this time next year, we’ll be drafting a new QB as of right now.
Dude. Just stop. They didn’t tell us because it’s not a big of a deal. You know how many knee and ankle scopes happen after a season we don’t hear about? Lol why do you always go worst case scenario right off the bat?
 

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And you got your medical degree from where? A box of Cracker Jacks and then where did you do all your surgical practice at? One of the ACL surgeries I had I was told after I was in recovery that the surgeon also took care of a very small amount of calcium build up on my knee cap from an obvious prior non serious injury that he also cleaned up. Yes there can be other non-serious injuries that can be cleaned up that have nothing to do with the current injury.
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Well, good for you, but that is nothing compared to a compound, I'll say it again, compound fracture. Take a look at your ankle. Move it sideways, around and around, up and down, jump up and down and do 30 jumping jacks, sprint 25 yards...then go find a big fat bastid and let him fall on your ankle a few time in three hours. No...once broke, it's broke.

Now, to you and I it might not be a big deal like if we got into a car crash and had a compound fracture and it got fixed most likely we would be fine, but then again we are not getting the crap beat out of us during a game, and that is what he is going to face, whether you or anyone else want to believe it or not, he will, and it will forever be in the back of his mind.
 

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You realize that the MD degree you got in Cracker Jacks is worthless don't you. That MD degree really doesn't mean you can now make medical decisions especially on something you've never seen first hand.
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I paid a lot of money for that degree.
 

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  • He will never be the same player again. He is going to be hesitant and complacent on the field. That broke ankle had issues way before his injury. Good luck with all that! I hope JJ understands the risk he is taking if they sign him. As for me, nope. Not with a broken wheel because you need that weight barring bone strong, and the crack is already in the making, just a matter of time.



So every player who has a major surgery is never the same again? How about a player who torn his ACL and MCL in Oct. of one season and the very next season he rushes for more than 2000 yards, Adrian Peterson. Or how about another player who torn his ACL and the very next season he was come back player of the year. The only reason you're pushing what you're saying is you hope it's true and Prescott is then gone from the Cowboys.
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As a physician, how common is deltoid ligament surgery? Uncommon according to the internet (yeah I know it is the internet) and used for grade 3 injuries. Would you be concerned if the ligament was torn and they had to pull tissue from another ligament? As a physician, what is the typical recovery time to be able to play football from deltoid ligament surgery? As a physician, is surgery usually a last resort for deltoid surgery and means that they gave it two months to heal and it did not? Or does it mean the deltoid ligament was torn and they first had to wait for the broken bone to heal before they could deal with the ligament? I have no idea but I see cause for concern.

I am an engineer and not a doctor but I definitely see some cause from concern just reading a little on deltoid ligament surgery.

And why the two month delay and sunshine-pumping from unnamed ‘sources’ who likely are not even doctors?
The voice of reason! People don't realize that those ligaments may of been stretched to the point of no return if not torn also. None of this will ever leak out because he is negotiating for a contract. This type of injury can't help but have an impact on the way Dak plays.
 

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  • He will never be the same player again. He is going to be hesitant and complacent on the field. That broke ankle had issues way before his injury. Good luck with all that! I hope JJ understands the risk he is taking if they sign him. As for me, nope. Not with a broken wheel because you need that weight barring bone strong, and the crack is already in the making, just a matter of time.
He has also struggled with his mechanics and now he has an ankle with a steel plate and screws. I'd say he is damaged goods and its much worse than Wentz ACL. And we saw how Wentz hasn't been the same.
 

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No surprise that those who despise Dak, calling him gimp, etc. don't think he will recover. I'm sure they hope he Nevers plays again. That will please them.

I don't know how far along he is, but if he is walking with no limp, and doing weight bearing exercises, I'm guessing he will be ready when OTA's start.
I don’t know how any a rational person reads that article and doesn’t come to this conclusion
 

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Well, good for you, but that is nothing compared to a compound, I'll say it again, compound fracture. Take a look at your ankle. Move it sideways, around and around, up and down, jump up and down and do 30 jumping jacks, sprint 25 yards...then go find a big fat bastid and let him fall on your ankle a few time in three hours. No...once broke, it's broke.

Now, to you and I it might not be a big deal like if we got into a car crash and had a compound fracture and it got fixed most likely we would be fine, but then again we are not getting the crap beat out of us during a game, and that is what he is going to face, whether you or anyone else want to believe it or not, he will, and it will forever be in the back of his mind.




I guess just like Adrian Peterson when he torn his ACL and MCL in Oct. of one season and the very next season he rushed for more than 2000 yards or Brady after he tore his ACL in week 1 and the very next year was the come back player of the year. How about Emmitt having surgery on his shoulder and then coming back to lead the league in rushing and all the pounding his shoulder took doing that. All you're doing is trying to force on Prescott your feeling that he will not be the same when other players have played well after surgeries.
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First off what you find on the internet is generalized info not based on an individual case and a decision made by the surgeon who was actually doing the procedure. Next the wait was to make sure that no infection started like what happened with Alex Smith. Next the repair of the deltoid ligament was notice during the original surgery as an old injury not part of the injury that caused the first surgery so they went in and fixed that and cleaned up some other things to make his ankle stronger. You might be a good engineer but leave the medical stuff to real doctors.
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Again this is word for word from the article, how are y’all reading those words and coming away concerned? This is getting kinda sad at this point
 
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