Give Dak a nonexclusive franchise tag

LovinItAll · Feb 19, 2021

JBS said:
It's by far the dumbest thing they could do

No, the dumbest thing they can do is to not get Dak signed. The writing is on the wall in the NFL: Key position players are beginning to see that they have more leverage than they thought. Dak (allegedly) wants $160MM for 4 years? Pay him. Dicking around hoping he'll take a 5 year deal after he's said he won't is straight up foolish.

Is Dak worth $40MM/year? Idk. If he delivers a SB appearance, of course he is. If he delivers 2 NFCC appearances, of course he is. 4 trips to the divisional round? Of course he is.

This talk about drafting a kid and thinking he'll be a better 'value' than Dak is nonsense. There's FAR less than a coin flip's chance that any team is going to see sustained playoff success with even a high draft choice.

Two years ago, there was a HUGE contingent in this forum that didn't think Dak could get $25MM/year. Two years from now, $40MM will probably be slightly above average.

Jarv · Feb 19, 2021

Future said:
Fine but you're wrong.

Yes you are wrong...lol

Jarv · Feb 19, 2021

LovinItAll said:
No, the dumbest thing they can do is to not get Dak signed. The writing is on the wall in the NFL: Key position players are beginning to see that they have more leverage than they thought. Dak (allegedly) wants $160MM for 4 years? Pay him. Dicking around hoping he'll take a 5 year deal after he's said he won't is straight up foolish.

Is Dak worth $40MM/year? Idk. If he delivers a SB appearance, of course he is. If he delivers 2 NFCC appearances, of course he is. 4 trips to the divisional round? Of course he is.

This talk about drafting a kid and thinking he'll be a better 'value' than Dak is nonsense. There's FAR less than a coin flip's chance that any team is going to see sustained playoff success with even a high draft choice.

Two years ago, there was a HUGE contingent in this forum that didn't think Dak could get $25MM/year. Two years from now, $40MM will probably be slightly above average.

Dak has had 5 years and one playoff win. Give him 35-40 million a year will not make the rest of the team and especially the defense better, take the 2 1st round picks and run.

ondaedg · Feb 19, 2021

Jarv said:
Dak has had 5 years and one playoff win. Give him 35-40 million a year will not make the rest of the team and especially the defense better, take the 2 1st round picks and run.

60% of 1st round drafted QBs flop and 20% have average careers. That means we only have a 20% chance to draft a QB as good as Dak. So we’ll need three additional 1st round picks for a total of 5. Two first rounders is nothing.

Future · Feb 19, 2021

Jarv said:
Yes you are wrong...lol

Mmk, good luck winning with a roster that looks exactly like the Bears and Commanders.

visionary · Feb 19, 2021

BobbyFlame469 said:
Maybe the cowboys won’t do that because unlike forum posters NFL executives unanimously agree Dak is a great quarterback

just like NFL executives “agreed” that teams would be lining up to sign Garrett as HC when he was due an extension?

:facepalm:

visionary · Feb 19, 2021

Future said:
Mmk, good luck winning with a roster that looks exactly like the Bears and Commanders.

yeah, they should look at all the ‘winning’ we have done with our roster

:facepalm:

Future · Feb 19, 2021

visionary said:
yeah, they should look at all the ‘winning’ we have done with our roster

OMG GOOD ONE WHY HASN'T ANYONE ELSE THOUGHT OF THAT

Starforever · Feb 19, 2021

ondaedg said:
how did Russell Wilson and his $35mil contract get to the playoffs with his contract?

Seattle's defense. How has Wilson been doing as of late? Getting to the playoffs, and winning the championship, has been accomplished by lesser QB's. Winning, is a team effort, which some of you are not familiar with. When I played in Germany, our team was good, but our QB was the Cam Newton type (except for the running). We had fast receivers, but were afraid of getting hit. The QB, was blamed for most of the issues, but the offensive weapons were iffy. We played well enough to compete, but the end result was always the same. Defensive players were always angry about spending so much time on the field. By the way, the coaching was terrible, with a capital "T".

Starforever · Feb 19, 2021

khiladi said:
Russell Wilson, unlike Dak, has shown an ability to make throws outside his first read. Guys like Goff and Dak are pretty much the same. Dak also drops off considerably from first to second read. And Dak again had or had the best or one of the best OL and RG in the league.

I see a picture of Wilson and Goff. You stated that Wilson has great abilities. You stated that Dak is the same as Goff, but no picture or numbers to back up what you are saying. Dak, can throw beyond his first read. Does he make plays like Wilson, no, but please don't make assessments without any proof. What years are you giving stats on? What is Wison's rank, relative to Mahomes or Rogers?

Starforever · Feb 19, 2021

khiladi said:
Well, actually somebody said Russell Wilson is like a Dak and I brought this stat of him being the top ranked qB rating in the NFL after the first progression as a refutation of this claim that Dak is ‘close’ to Russell Wilson who doesn’t have anywhere near a stacked roster like Dak has had his whole career as not being true. And then I mentioned that Dak is pretty much right where Goff is in terms of drop-off in QB rating from first to second progression, so again, that’s not other QBs stats without taking into account Dak’s. It’s no surprise both Goff and Dak throw more play action than any other QBs in the league year in and out and Linehan and Moore basically almost completely eliminated the traditional drop back for Dak, because he sucks at it.

There is no context for your assessment. Where are the numbers, and what years are you using to make your point?

OmerV · Feb 19, 2021

mardwin said:
At this point, it would be stupid for Dak to sign a long-term deal. He will get $37M this year at the very least, assuming he gets another $35M next year that's $72M guaranteed in two years.

That doesn't take into account that if he got hurt and his career ended it would be the last large payday he ever gets. A long term contract guarantees a lot more money than just one year.

Starforever · Feb 19, 2021

Nemesis4u said:
this is how bad this fan base is they think dak +40 million is better then 2 first round picks. SMH the best way to win is to have a QB on a rookie contract and build around him with those picks. Say Commanders give us 2 mid first rounders. We could draft the kid from bama with there pick and use our first round pick on defense and then have 2 first round picks next year to build around him. not to mention the 40 million in free agency we save to build around him. In no world is dak better then a rookie qb on a rookie contract an extra first round pick and 40 million.

The only team that has proven your theory, is the KC Chiefs. Most rookie QB's, don't have squat around them, because management believes that he alone can carry the team. A rookie QB (unknown), an extra first round pick (unknown), and a fantasy amount of capital ($40 million); nets you nothing but hope. Dak, plus current picks (unknown), and the maneuvering of current contracts; nets you possibilities.

visionary · Feb 19, 2021

Future said:
OMG GOOD ONE WHY HASN'T ANYONE ELSE THOUGHT OF THAT

ESPECIALLY PEOPLE TELLING US OTHER TEAMS ARE BUILDING THE WRONG WAY

Future · Feb 19, 2021

visionary said:
ESPECIALLY PEOPLE TELLING US OTHER TEAMS ARE BUILDING THE WRONG WAY

Anyone who thinks building a defense and going cheap at QB is a smart route to the Super Bowl is wrong. Unequivocally.

So yes, I'll keep saying that. There is no team successful team who does that in the current NFL.

Nemesis4u · Feb 19, 2021

Starforever said:
The only team that has proven your theory, is the KC Chiefs. Most rookie QB's, don't have squat around them, because management believes that he alone can carry the team. A rookie QB (unknown), an extra first round pick (unknown), and a fantasy amount of capital ($40 million); nets you nothing but hope. Dak, plus current picks (unknown), and the maneuvering of current contracts; nets you possibilities.

do you not remember russell wilson on his rookie deal?

Starforever · Feb 19, 2021

Nemesis4u said:
do you not remember russell wilson on his rookie deal?

Explain, what about Wison's rookie deal? Was not that the beginning of the legion of booms heyday? He came into a good deal, with a good team around him.

Ranched · Feb 19, 2021

Jarv said:
Dak has had 5 years and one playoff win. Give him 35-40 million a year will not make the rest of the team and especially the defense better, take the 2 1st round picks and run.

If (2x Pro-Bowler) Dak had "5 years" he would have shattered Peyton Manning's passing record in 2020 AND Dallas would have won the division. :laugh:

Nemesis4u · Feb 19, 2021

Starforever said:
Explain, what about Wison's rookie deal? Was not that the beginning of the legion of booms heyday? He came into a good deal, with a good team around him.

exactly my point use daks money to build our own version of the LOD and draft a qb. Hell id rather try to get phillip rivers out of retirement and have the 40 million + 2 firsts then dak. This deal will cripple our franchise.

Whyjerry · Feb 19, 2021

CATCH17 said:
They should’ve done this last year.

Dallas constantly gives themselves no leverage..

I don’t know if they are trying to negotiate like honorable gentlemen in hopes of a discount but Todd France is making them look like fools.

This is 100 pct true. The reality is they should have extended Dak instead of Captain Cabo. They didn’t. It makes no sense. Jerry loses leverage everyday. The price tag goes up. Now many of the potential trading partners have grabbed another QB. Jerry has a history of moronic GM moves. This might be his Mona Lisa.

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