Does Dak Being the Best QB in the Division Factor Into Your Decision to Sign Him?

HungryLion

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You still sign Dak based on your own evaluation of him.

Him being the best QB in the division is something that could change quickly over the next 2 years.

Never know if one of the other teams hits on a QB in the draft.


daniel Jones is still a very talented guy and very young. Maybe he keeps consistently improving?

There’s a lot of factors. So you make the Dak choice. Based on Dak and your team. Not other teams.
 

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Be nice if the bar was bit higher than a comparison to two teams without QBs and a third with a QB who is a turnover machine.
 

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Everyone thinks WFT does not have a QB but look out for Taylor Heinicke they just re-signed. Dudes a gamer.

I like that guy too. Will depend on how he can develop. Teams have tape on him now so it will be interesting to see how he develops but I do like that guy.
 

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I like that guy too. Will depend on how he can develop. Teams have tape on him now so it will be interesting to see how he develops but I do like that guy.
Exactly. How he responds to new (after tape) defensive looks will make or break him.
 

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@817Gill At this point in time, you do realize Dak is the worst QB in the NFC East. He can’t run, cut, or throw. He can’t pass a physical. He can’t even play

And he wants $40M per year.

When can he play? None of us have any idea right now. He’s probably not going to be ready to play until Aug at the earliest, if everything goes well. I would not be counting my chickens before they are hatched just yet.
 

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At this point in time, it is pretty clear Dak Prescott is far and away the best QB in the division. When you have the QB1 in a division, you have a significant advantage as long as the rest of your team/coaching is competent.

Based on the recent history of all these other NFC East teams at QB, there shouldn’t be overwhelming confidence that a player better than Dak leads any of these other franchises. Daniel Jones is meh, Hurts/6th overall pick is meh, and Rivera is too conservative to pull the trigger on a big deal so it’s FA or 19th overall; meh.

Assuming Dak’s health checks out, does being the best QB in the division make you more comfortable with a 40M price tag?

Not at all. The fact that he is a top 5 QB in the NFL does.
 
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ABQCOWBOY

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@817Gill At this point in time, you do realize Dak is the worst QB in the NFC East. He can’t run, cut, or throw. He can’t pass a physical. He can’t even play

And he wants $40M per year.

When can he play? None of us have any idea right now. He’s probably not going to be ready to play until Aug at the earliest, if everything goes well. I would not be counting my chickens before they are hatched just yet.

That irony Man....... It's a stone cold, up in your face, for real life be-atch right?!!!

:laugh:
 

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Assuming Dak’s health checks out, does being the best QB in the division make you more comfortable with a 40M price tag?

Dalton may be the best QB in the division too. Neither Dalton's nor Dak's value is boosted for me by the QBs in our division stinking.

A more relevant comparison to Dak are the free agent QBs available, and the likely cost of each. Could we get better value elsewhere?

With the drop in cap, free agency is looking like a buyer's market, while Dak wants 40mil long term. Much like last year with a cheapo Dalton, this could be another good year to get a bridge QB while we start drafting/developing young guys.
 

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Yeah, the problem here is that the best QB in this division is based on the best OL and personnel around them. This idea that Dak is the best is temporary at best IMO. The team that can free up resources and improve personnel will be the team with the best QB because they will be the most successful. That's how I see it.

This.

Gotta normalize a QB's stats by what he has around him and the situation he finds himself in.

Dalton spent the season not just without Smith and Collins, but 6 games without Martin too. He's not better than Dak, but given his lack of a regular offseason with a new team, and being thrown in as starter midseason, he wasn't bad, and would probably look pretty good on a healthy offense if given the chance next year.
 

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No.

And we cant say that. 3 of the 4 teams, including Dallas, dont have returning starters signed for 2021. Both Philly and Washington could draft well or sign/trade for a good QB. We'll have to wait and see.
Wait. What? 3 of the NFCE teams including Dallas?

Isn't that 4 of 4?

Color me confused........
 

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At this point in time, it is pretty clear Dak Prescott is far and away the best QB in the division. When you have the QB1 in a division, you have a significant advantage as long as the rest of your team/coaching is competent.

Based on the recent history of all these other NFC East teams at QB, there shouldn’t be overwhelming confidence that a player better than Dak leads any of these other franchises. Daniel Jones is meh, Hurts/6th overall pick is meh, and Rivera is too conservative to pull the trigger on a big deal so it’s FA or 19th overall; meh.

Assuming Dak’s health checks out, does being the best QB in the division make you more comfortable with a 40M price tag?

Yes and No. No from the standpoint I think Top is a top 4 to 8 QB in the league. That factors into me paying him if it was up to me. Yes from the standpoint that by default hes the best in the division, but if he were only the best qb in the divsion and he was the 21th best qb in the league and the rest of the qbs in the division were 30,31, and 32. No im not giving him 40 mil.
 

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Doesn't even factor into it. It's about the conference, not the division. They will play 7 games against out of the division conference opponents.

You also cannot assume the QB situation is going to continue to be what it is now. I will be surprised if PHL and WFT stand pat with what they have. Snyder is the wild card as he knows he has a contender D and a good QB can put him in the NFCCG.

I agree with this. Why are we talking about winning this lousy division? The problems has been getting past the first round in the playoffs. Dak is a good QB, but that alone is not going to win anything. 1-3 start in 2020 with the one win being a lucky break. In those 4 games the QBs were Goff, Matt Ryan, Russell Wilson and Baker Mayfield. Only Wilson is clearly better than Dak.

The question is, is Dak so good that they cannot find another QB who can win with the players they have on offense, assuming they can use the savings to fix the defense? I don't know the answer but I do know they cannot win with the defense they have. I think that is now a proven fact.
 

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It shouldn't. Signing players is about team building. Brady wasn't the best QB in the SB but he played on the best team. The point is how they decide to build the best team. They have tried different ways and ultimately failed.
 

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Winning the division should never be a goal, it should be a given. Winning the NFC should be the first goal and it won't happen without Dak.
 

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To some of these geniuses it means nothing lol. They want rings. They fail to realize the first step in getting that ring is locking up the division.


Well geniuses point out that the Dak led Cowboys only managed to win what many state has been the worst division in football for several years in 2016 and 2018.....so in 2 of Dak's 5 seasons........that doesn't speak volumes as to the quality of Dak as the starting QB.
 

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Well geniuses point out that the Dak led Cowboys only managed to win what many state has been the worst division in football for several years in 2016 and 2018.....so in 2 of Dak's 5 seasons........that doesn't speak volumes as to the quality of Dak as the starting QB.

That's what happens when you unfortunately have the best QB in the division but the worst coaches, defense and special teams in the division. Sucks.
 
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