Can the NFL go to an NBA like Salary Cap?

phildadon86

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Honest question. I know the owners would have to agree but the players would for sure. I wonder if we went to an NBA like system to counteract these QB's taking up so much cap. If there were a luxury tax etc. What do you guys think?
 

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Honest question. I know the owners would have to agree but the players would for sure. I wonder if we went to an NBA like system to counteract these QB's taking up so much cap. If there were a luxury tax etc. What do you guys think?
NFL isnt a players league like the NBA
 

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Is there anything specific about NBA's salary cap that you are referring to? If you mean just a direct swap then I do not think it would work.
 

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Is there anything specific about NBA's salary cap that you are referring to? If you mean just a direct swap then I do not think it would work.


The NBA has rules which allow teams to go over the cap under certain specific circumstances. To re-sign their own draftees.. or to re-sign guys who have been with their team a certain number of years. They can go over without penalty in those circumstances.. but they can go over for any reason but incur a 'luxury tax' from the league for doing so. They also are allowed one "exception" at several different defined salary levels. That's how the Lakers can be playing both Lebron and AD super max contracts and still not be "over the camp."
 

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The owners don’t want a flexible cap
Right now they make really good money
Small market teams can still survive and compete
Large market teams are banking very well
Why as an owner would anyone want to change that?
 

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The NBA has rules which allow teams to go over the cap under certain specific circumstances. To re-sign their own draftees.. or to re-sign guys who have been with their team a certain number of years. They can go over without penalty in those circumstances.. but they can go over for any reason but incur a 'luxury tax' from the league for doing so. They also are allowed one "exception" at several different defined salary levels. That's how the Lakers can be playing both Lebron and AD super max contracts and still not be "over the camp."

I'm familiar with the NBA salary cap and generally understand how it works. I wanted to know what the OP was really asking about and if if was the luxury tax or something else. The NBA has a few ways to add and retain players the NFL does not.
 

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Honest question. I know the owners would have to agree but the players would for sure. I wonder if we went to an NBA like system to counteract these QB's taking up so much cap. If there were a luxury tax etc. What do you guys think?

I'd like to see something like the Bird Exception. The team who drafted the player can offer more than an opposing team, and the extra is allowed in addition to the cap. Teams could use that to keep their QB, or whatever star player, happy and on their roster. Players can still leave, but they'll take less money to do it. It's their choice.

But as someone said, the NFL isn't a players' league. Instead they can tag a guy and block other teams from even negotiating with him.
 

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I'm familiar with the NBA salary cap and generally understand how it works. I wanted to know what the OP was really asking about and if if was the luxury tax or something else. The NBA has a few ways to add and retain players the NFL does not.
The luxury tax and the ability to keep your own with bird exceptions. I am not very well versed on the NBA cap. I just hate the idea of not being able to retain your own players you drafted and worked with for 5 years
 

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The NBA has rules which allow teams to go over the cap under certain specific circumstances. To re-sign their own draftees.. or to re-sign guys who have been with their team a certain number of years. They can go over without penalty in those circumstances.. but they can go over for any reason but incur a 'luxury tax' from the league for doing so. They also are allowed one "exception" at several different defined salary levels. That's how the Lakers can be playing both Lebron and AD super max contracts and still not be "over the camp."

For the NBA you can technically fit 3 super max contracts under the cap (barely) for free agents but then you basically have to use exceptions to fill your roster.
 

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The NBA has rules which allow teams to go over the cap under certain specific circumstances. To re-sign their own draftees.. or to re-sign guys who have been with their team a certain number of years. They can go over without penalty in those circumstances.. but they can go over for any reason but incur a 'luxury tax' from the league for doing so. They also are allowed one "exception" at several different defined salary levels. That's how the Lakers can be playing both Lebron and AD super max contracts and still not be "over the camp."

Thanks for the details for those of us who do not follow the NBA. This sounds like an interesting system because it rewards teams that draft well. As it should be. With the current contract structure in the NFL, if a team does well finding gems in the later rounds they get screwed because the CAP does not allow the team to keep all of them. They draft good players and watch them leave after 3 or 4 years, just as they are reaching their prime.

I have said for a while I would like to see a team have the ability to keep it's star for their entire careers rather than watch players like Montana, Emmitt, and a few others leave to finish their careers with strange teams.
 

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The NBA has rules which allow teams to go over the cap under certain specific circumstances. To re-sign their own draftees.. or to re-sign guys who have been with their team a certain number of years. They can go over without penalty in those circumstances.. but they can go over for any reason but incur a 'luxury tax' from the league for doing so. They also are allowed one "exception" at several different defined salary levels. That's how the Lakers can be playing both Lebron and AD super max contracts and still not be "over the camp."
I dont know much about it Ron, but I wonder if a cap with the QB salary aside isn't something that ought to be discussed.

Then again, how do you reward the team that has a good QB making not all that much?

Itll probably never fly in the NFL.....why fix whats not broke?
 

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Is the NBA cap any different than baseball? I don’t follow either. Little I know about baseball is the Yankees have a payroll of over $200M and Pirates have a payroll of $50M. Numbers are probably dated.

Do people really want something like that where the Cowboys spend $300M and the Bengals and Jaguars spend $150M?
 

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I would like to see mid level exception and bird rights added. Also a limited form of the luxury tax. Maybe teams can only use it every so many years to help them retain players. It would allow teams to make a ballon payment to a player and not impact future years or needing to drop players.
 

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I would like to see mid level exception and bird rights added. Also a limited form of the luxury tax. Maybe teams can only use it every so many years to help them retain players. It would allow teams to make a ballon payment to a player and not impact future years or needing to drop players.
That is my suggestion. It will never fly.
 

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Honest question. I know the owners would have to agree but the players would for sure. I wonder if we went to an NBA like system to counteract these QB's taking up so much cap. If there were a luxury tax etc. What do you guys think?
given the issues with salary cap and QB salaries, I wouldn't be surprised to see some adjustment for QBs in the next CBA. some provision of adjustment for QB salaries. its a QB driven league and they are the face of any franchise.
 

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Of course the NFL could.

But the league has no incentive to do that.
 

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Not for another decade. It would have to be agreed upon in the CBA and the owners are never giving up that much power.
 
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