Twitter: Bob Sturm has hunch Dak is signed by Thursday at 8:30 AM

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erod

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What I mean is, if Dak is as bad as the haters say, why would another team pay him and give us draft capitol in return? That's what makes no sense to me.
Because he's not under contract. Why would you trade away picks for a player not under contract?

No team has even tried. Where do you get this?
 

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Because he's not under contract. Why would you trade away picks for a player not under contract?

No team has even tried. Where do you get this?

I haven't gotten it from anywhere. However, once the Cowboys tag Prescott (if they have to) I believe his rights could then be traded. Once again, let me apologize for making a stupid post.
 

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I haven't gotten it from anywhere. However, once the Cowboys tag Prescott (if they have to) I believe his rights could then be traded. Once again, let me apologize for making a stupid post.
It's cool.

They could trade him on a tag, but the team getting him would first have to work out a deal with him. Otherwise, why would they? They'd be trading into a situation where he's going to be a free agent after next year anyway.

If Dak doesn't sign now, he's not signing. He wants a shot at that Kirk Cousins free agent money. I think he might be shocked that he doesn't get the offer he thinks he would.

Teams may be starting to wise up. Cousins didn't pan out. Wentz, Goff, Tannehill, Watson, Garrapolo, Winston, Bortles....none of these are panning out.
 

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more than 80% of first round QBs fail. more than 90% of all drafted QBs fail. we LUCKED into Dak, so now you want to go try you LUCK again. ala Qunicy Carter, Chad Hutchinson, Anthony Wright, Clint Stoener....

since Pats found their QB in the 6th round that proves you can find a Goat in the 6th round and all teams should just not draft QBs hight and just draft them in the 6th round!!!

and its not easy to be good, top 10 NFL QB these days, lets not forget Winston the top pick in the draft threw 30 interceptions, Average QBs throw for 20-25 TDs and their teams include the likes of Raiders, Detroit, Atlanta, Arizona...just a bunch of average to below average teams. as for interceptions, Drew Lock led the league last year with 15.....what you mean to look at is the interception%, which had aaron rodgers and mahomes at the top, but nick mullen, wentz and lock at the bottomwith 12-15 interceptions...

Dak had 30 TDs in 2019, 4th in the league, in 5 games in 2020 he had 9, 33rd in the league...
by comparison, he had only 11 interceptions in 2019.

Dak is clearly a top 10 QB in almost every statistical category..... sorry dude, Tannehill is the ultimate bus driver, who rides Henry's back to wins with 80 yard and 75 yard passing performances...

Only Dak apologists like you talk about stats for QB success

To me and most Cowboys fans “success” means getting to the playoffs and winning in the playoffs and getting to and winning CCGs and SBs

This team with Dak has made the playoffs 2 out of 4 seasons (not counting 2020 although the team had a horrible record with Dak as QB)

1 playoff win in 4 years starting

ZERO CCGs or SBs

that’s NOT success
 

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I wasn't trying to explain it that way. Sometimes my posts' meanings are hard to understand. That's my fault and nobody elses.

I understood what you said brother. It made sense as an honest question. Those that have an agenda will say otherwise.
 

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Only Dak apologists like you talk about stats for QB success

To me and most Cowboys fans “success” means getting to the playoffs and winning in the playoffs and getting to and winning CCGs and SBs

This team with Dak has made the playoffs 2 out of 4 seasons (not counting 2020 although the team had a horrible record with Dak as QB)

1 playoff win in 4 years starting

ZERO CCGs or SBs

that’s NOT success

When his stats were mediocre and he was a bus driver, this team was better. Making Dak look good with paper-Tiger stats in garbage time, doesn’t mean we were actually better on offense.
 

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Only Dak apologists like you talk about stats for QB success

To me and most Cowboys fans “success” means getting to the playoffs and winning in the playoffs and getting to and winning CCGs and SBs

This team with Dak has made the playoffs 2 out of 4 seasons (not counting 2020 although the team had a horrible record with Dak as QB)

1 playoff win in 4 years starting

ZERO CCGs or SBs

that’s NOT success

all you dak haters, need to kind of get together in a forum and decide what measure you want to use for QBs, because it changes every other post....

so you basically just said, all wins and losses are on the QB and no other part of the team, including coaching is accountable...correct?

the team was 2-3 with Dak at QB in 2020 and the leading offense in the league and historically good. unfortunately we also had a historically bad defense giving up 36+ points a game.

Peyton Manning went 0-4 in his first 4 playoff appearance. I guess they should ahve just kicked him to the curb.

Wilson has gone 1-3 in the playoffs over the past 5 years, I guess, his time is done and seattle should just cut their losses.
 

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I love the people that want a full blown rebuild after a win now coaching hire.....along with a front office that has never won crap while they were in charge.

I'm not at all confident the Dak/MM combo is a winner, but you've got to try before blowing it up.

People assume blowing it up makes it better in 2-3 years like teams that hire real football people.

Well nobody thought Collins would need a new hip and Smith had major neck issues and our OL completely imploded with multiple injuries. And Mike McMarthy is supposed to be an Offensive guru, but Jerry has kept Moore and his offense. And Dak’s learning curve in a new offense, particularly West Coast, is questionable, which they aren’t doing anyways, which is why they kept Moore. So blowing it up isn’t a big deal, because the defense is already hot garbage and our LBs are all bad and LVE is clearly no longer the same and his neck is probably going to get worse, not better.
 

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..rumor has it>>>>> Dak is getting a WHOOPING 50 mill a year. I smell 4 super bowls coming up. ;)..
 

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all you dak haters, need to kind of get together in a forum and decide what measure you want to use for QBs, because it changes every other post....

so you basically just said, all wins and losses are on the QB and no other part of the team, including coaching is accountable...correct?

the team was 2-3 with Dak at QB in 2020 and the leading offense in the league and historically good. unfortunately we also had a historically bad defense giving up 36+ points a game.

Peyton Manning went 0-4 in his first 4 playoff appearance. I guess they should ahve just kicked him to the curb.

Wilson has gone 1-3 in the playoffs over the past 5 years, I guess, his time is done and seattle should just cut their losses.
Peyton was drafted by the worst team in football. Day was drafted into the best offense in the NFL.

Learn an iota of football please.
 

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I love the people that want a full blown rebuild after a win now coaching hire.....along with a front office that has never won crap while they were in charge.

I'm not at all confident the Dak/MM combo is a winner, but you've got to try before blowing it up.

People assume blowing it up makes it better in 2-3 years like teams that hire real football people.

Completely agree.
 

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I love the people that want a full blown rebuild after a win now coaching hire.....along with a front office that has never won crap while they were in charge.

I'm not at all confident the Dak/MM combo is a winner, but you've got to try before blowing it up.

People assume blowing it up makes it better in 2-3 years like teams that hire real football people.
You can build quick these days. Rosters only last last 2-3 years.
 

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I love the people that want a full blown rebuild after a win now coaching hire.....along with a front office that has never won crap while they were in charge.

I'm not at all confident the Dak/MM combo is a winner, but you've got to try before blowing it up.

People assume blowing it up makes it better in 2-3 years like teams that hire real football people.

Can't like this take enough :hammer:
 

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Only Dak apologists like you talk about stats for QB success

To me and most Cowboys fans “success” means getting to the playoffs and winning in the playoffs and getting to and winning CCGs and SBs

This team with Dak has made the playoffs 2 out of 4 seasons (not counting 2020 although the team had a horrible record with Dak as QB)

1 playoff win in 4 years starting

ZERO CCGs or SBs

that’s NOT success

It's really not rocket science man. Having a QB that is good enough to up good stats means you're more likely to win games. Because that QB is GOOD. If you're QB isn't good enough to produce good stats, your chances of losing games are much higher. Because that QB is likely NOT GOOD.

Things are especially more difficult when your general manager is a drunk ego-maniac who listens most to the last person with a Southern accent to be in the same room as him.

It's not Dak's fault we employed Garrett for 10 years and couldn't draft a defender to save our lives. It's not Dak's fault we employed coaches like Colombo and Keith O'Quinn, and switched defensive coordinators every two years. It's not Dak's fault we entered a season with Allen Hurns and Cole Beasely as our starting receivers, and thought that Trysten Hill and an overweight Dontari Poe resembled actual defensive tackles. It's not Dak's fault Mike Nolan orchestrated the very worst defense in franchise history...Can just go on and on here.

Wins are not a QB stat, and you're being wilfully ignorant if you think that.
 
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You can build quick these days. Rosters only last last 2-3 years.
Going great so far, right?

You're missing a key ingredient.

*Good organizations can build quick these days.
 
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