Video: CBS Sports: Jason La Canfora - Dak wanted Franchise Tag Language removed

RonnieT24 · Feb 23, 2021

PJTHEDOORS said:
No athlete is worth millions, much less $40 mill.

I've never understood this argument. An athlete who trains for decades to achieve a ridiculous level of proficiency who then performs it at that level while entertaining millions of people is "not worth millions" but nobody blinks an eye for actors who play dressup and pretend to be other people in front of a camera making even more money. I guarantee you a helluva lot more work goes into being an NFL player than does pretending to be Luke Skywalker. And DGMS on musicians .. especially rappers. People who recite vulgar poetry over somebody else's music make hundreds millions of dollars. Half the "singers" on the radio can't actually carry a tune and need computer equipment to correct their being horribly off-key ON THEIR OWN SONGS .. How do you not be able to stay on key for a song you allegedly wrote? But I digress. Athletes make what they make. It's folly to assign everyday sensibilities to it. I never give it much thought. Until they start passing the hat and asking me to pay it I don't care. I just want to be entertained.

ondaedg · Feb 23, 2021

CowboysRule said:
You got it right with the last sentence. This has nothing to do with Dak wanting to know that he is "their guy", it's about going back into FA again as soon as possible so he can cash in. I do not want to pay Dak anywhere near $40m/yr. He's just not worth it from what I have seen. Tag him, trade him, roll with someone else. This team needs an overhaul on defense which, while not impossible, is definitely harder to do with a highly paid QB.

Teams don’t overhaul or rebuild and there is no five year plans any longer. Free agency and more pro ready college players mean win win win every year. This idea that if Dak gets paid $40 mil instead of $35 mil means we’re going to be an awful team makes zero sense. Waive Jaylon who can be replaced by about 50 other players and boom you’ve got more than enough to pay Dak what the market is setting for him.

jrumann59 · Feb 23, 2021

rocyaice said:
I just don't know man....to me 4 or 5 years seems standard negotiating. Not wanting to get tagged again seems standard too. These players already don't have guaranteed contracts. I can understand trying to protect yourself as much as you can because Jerry and co. are trying to do the same.

He is going to make 37.7m on the franchise tag, guaranteed. I understand job security. But Dak comes across as a smart guy, if he suffered a another catastrophic injury that ends his career he made almost 70m dollars in 2 seasons.

ondaedg · Feb 23, 2021

RonnieT24 said:
I've never understood this argument. An athlete who trains for decades to achieve a ridiculous level of proficiency who then performs it at that level while entertaining millions of people is "not worth millions" but nobody blinks an eye for actors who play dressup and pretend to be other people in front of a camera making even more money. I guarantee you a helluva lot more work goes into being an NFL player than does pretending to be Luke Skywalker. And DGMS on musicians .. especially rappers. People who recite vulgar poetry over somebody else's music make hundreds millions of dollars. Half the "singers" on the radio can't actually carry a tune and need computer equipment to correct their being horribly off-key ON THEIR OWN SONGS .. How do you not be able to stay on key for a song you allegedly wrote? But I digress. Athletes make what they make. It's folly to assign everyday sensibilities to it. I never give it much thought. Until they start passing the hat and asking me to pay it I don't care. I just want to be entertained.

Good point. But Luke Skywalker should get a pass because he is a Jedi.

CouchCoach · Feb 23, 2021

rocyaice said:
I agree. Which is why I Want this deal to get done as soon as possible. What looks big now in 2 or 3 years won't be.

Yep, they're all going to be paying QB's more than even they imagined. And it only gets worse for them for there's power growing within the QB ranks. The team is very close to being the tail and the QB the dog.

PJTHEDOORS · Feb 23, 2021

CouchCoach said:
Yes, they are. As long as the fans are willing to buy the tickets and the TV nets willing to pay the freight, it is the players they are coming to see. And ion today's NFL, that begins with the QB.

Isn't paying an actor 25-30M for one film a little whack? But that actor brings bodies to the theater just like these players do.

Imo greed is greed. I've seen what greed does to people. Look at Bill Gates. Disgusting human being.

CouchCoach · Feb 23, 2021

I wonder if France/Prescott wouldn't prefer for them to use the non exclusive tag? That's a gamble that someone will do the 40 x 4 and give up 2 1sts but from the Joneses' standpoint if a team is willing to do that, re-signing him becomes an easier sell to those reluctant to sign him. Let another team establish his value, they still hold the cards and can make the play.

I think the % of posters we have here with their heels dug in is not representative of the fanbase. Especially those that saw him on that cart. Most fans are "it's not my money, screw it".

Like many here, I am just tired of this entire ordeal but that's exactly what France is hoping because the two best allies of a negotiator is silence and time. I do wonder if Prescott isn't really just as tired of this as we are?

CyberB0b · Feb 23, 2021

Jason La Canfora is looking rough these days. Has he had health problems?

JoeKing · Feb 23, 2021

PJTHEDOORS said:
No athlete is worth millions, much less $40 mill.

Yes, they are. That is capitalism. Players are worth whatever their team is willing to pay them. It's not up to you.

Bizwah · Feb 23, 2021

RonnieT24 said:
I've never understood this argument. An athlete who trains for decades to achieve a ridiculous level of proficiency who then performs it at that level while entertaining millions of people is "not worth millions" but nobody blinks an eye for actors who play dressup and pretend to be other people in front of a camera making even more money. I guarantee you a helluva lot more work goes into being an NFL player than does pretending to be Luke Skywalker. And DGMS on musicians .. especially rappers. People who recite vulgar poetry over somebody else's music make hundreds millions of dollars. Half the "singers" on the radio can't actually carry a tune and need computer equipment to correct their being horribly off-key ON THEIR OWN SONGS .. How do you not be able to stay on key for a song you allegedly wrote? But I digress. Athletes make what they make. It's folly to assign everyday sensibilities to it. I never give it much thought. Until they start passing the hat and asking me to pay it I don't care. I just want to be entertained.

Actually, I think all entertainers are grossly overpaid.

Actors, musicians, rappers, athletes.....all make more money than they should.

But that's America.....

PJTHEDOORS · Feb 23, 2021

Doomsday101 said:
I'm sure someone can put a price on anything. While I share your views on Mozart and Beethoven not everyone would feel the same. In the end entertainers are paid big money and that includes sports figures be it NFL, baseball, basketball, soccer or any other professional sports. Between contracts and endorsement deals these people make big money.

Ya. As I said, original art is beyond a price tag. But that's me.

Hawkeye0202 · Feb 23, 2021

rocyaice said:
I just don't know man....to me 4 or 5 years seems standard negotiating. Not wanting to get tagged again seems standard too. These players already don't have guaranteed contracts. I can understand trying to protect yourself as much as you can because Jerry and co. are trying to do the same.

I see what you're saying but my point is just to take care of business and if you're good enough, the extra money will be there. For example, he signs a 5-year deal and wins a Super Bowl year 3, the leverage is all his. He can force the Cowboys to redo his deal or trade him.

CouchCoach · Feb 23, 2021

PJTHEDOORS said:
Imo greed is greed. I've seen what greed does to people.

As have I and it ain't pretty but it isn't going away. Greed is often the symptom of capitalism but that comes with the territory.

There is another element to this, I believe, that is even stronger, ego. I think the pecking order, particularly with QB's, on how much they make, comparatively speaking, is a huge thing that they don't want to admit. All of the sudden Rodgers isn't happy with his deal, after seeing Mahomes and Watson's.

Considering why a player becomes a QB in the first place just makes sense to me that they keep score not with rings but cash register rings. It is THE ego position in all sports.

CouchCoach · Feb 23, 2021

Doomsday101 said:
I'm sure someone can put a price on anything. While I share your views on Mozart and Beethoven not everyone would feel the same. In the end entertainers are paid big money and that includes sports figures be it NFL, baseball, basketball, soccer or any other professional sports. Between contracts and endorsement deals these people make big money.

Yeah, some of us gotta have Metallica and Dogs Playing Poker.

dogunwo · Feb 23, 2021

CouchCoach said:
Yes, they are. As long as the fans are willing to buy the tickets and the TV nets willing to pay the freight, it is the players they are coming to see. And in today's NFL, that begins with the QB.

Isn't paying an actor 25-30M for one film a little whack? But that actor brings bodies to the theater just like these players do.

This simple concept is something that boggles me every time a fan says something about athletes being paid too much. They are worth what someone is willing to pay them. Dak was top 5 in jersey sales or something like that at one point. He deserves to get paid for it.

PJTHEDOORS · Feb 23, 2021

RonnieT24 said:
I've never understood this argument. An athlete who trains for decades to achieve a ridiculous level of proficiency who then performs it at that level while entertaining millions of people is "not worth millions" but nobody blinks an eye for actors who play dressup and pretend to be other people in front of a camera making even more money. I guarantee you a helluva lot more work goes into being an NFL player than does pretending to be Luke Skywalker. And DGMS on musicians .. especially rappers. People who recite vulgar poetry over somebody else's music make hundreds millions of dollars. Half the "singers" on the radio can't actually carry a tune and need computer equipment to correct their being horribly off-key ON THEIR OWN SONGS .. How do you not be able to stay on key for a song you allegedly wrote? But I digress. Athletes make what they make. It's folly to assign everyday sensibilities to it. I never give it much thought. Until they start passing the hat and asking me to pay it I don't care. I just want to be entertained.

I love original music. You see it another way. Cool.

Reid1boys · Feb 23, 2021

This crap is all on Dak. The Cowboys have NEVER been cheap with star players, and they arent being cheap here. Who the hell does Dak think he is? Trying to get language added in that the franchise tag can not be used on him again. If he wants that language, he better go to his union and get them to negotiate the franchise tag out of the CBA. Im sick of these players quite frankly.

TheMarathonContinues · Feb 23, 2021

Hawkeye0202 said:
I see what you're saying but my point is just to take care of business and if you're good enough, the extra money will be there. For example, he signs a 5-year deal and wins a Super Bowl year 3, the leverage is all his. He can force the Cowboys to redo his deal or trade him.

He could but I think he knows the chances of winning a Super Bowl are slim. Not just for the Cowboys but for anyone. So just saying go and win a championship you'll get more money.....that sounds good with a higher floor but you can't do that with a low floor or to what they consider a low floor.

dogunwo · Feb 23, 2021

big dog cowboy said:
I will never forgive the Cowboys for not getting a deal with Dak done in 2018.

The fan base was split with the majority of fans wanting Dak to "prove it" before being handed a big contract. Some fans and media astutely warned that the current situation was likely to happen considering Dak's trajectory.

Corso · Feb 23, 2021

Beaker42 said:
I’ll bet you a case of Shiner he doesn’t cave.

Damn! Shiner's pretty good beer!

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