Give Dak a nonexclusive franchise tag

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khiladi said:
1. Do you not understand that you always ignore what I clearly state in my post and the statement where I said there were rumors they were going to release Dez anyways and that Jones called him a distraction while Dak was blaming him for an INT when he threw it behind Dez?

2. It's not hindsight when Sammy was playing for the Rams. Sammy Watkins sucked with the Rams and was not in any way considered on the level of Dez. Watkins was signed by the CHIEFS, even though Dallas offered him more in free agency.

Look at your post? Your talking about the Rams, not the Chiefs.
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It doesn't matter if there were rumors about Dez or not, the fact they were pursuing Watkins is the key piece of information. It shows the Cowboys were looking for for a high quality receiver and were not looking to be left with the group they ended up with. That applies whether Dez was better than Watkins or not.

You're right that I didn't have the timing of the Rams/Chiefs right - my fault on that. But the point remains that the Cowboys were willing to pay Watkins a big contract, and the Chiefs (not Rams) were willing to pay him even more, which still proves my point that teams viewed Watkins as a top receiver, and were willing to pay him accordingly - and in turn that proves the Cowboys weren't planning on going into the season with the guys they did - they were trying to get something better.

And, again, none of what you have said proves Dak dictated to the team who to sign or not sign at WR, or that Dak told the team he didn't care about having higher quality receivers than they ended up with.
 
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The nonexclusive tag actually makes more sense as this goes on and the two sides seemingly can’t agree. I just don’t see it getting easier after another entire year on the exclusive tag.

I’ll throw into the equation here that I seriously doubt NFL games will be at 100% attendance by the fall which will probably keep the salary cap from jumping too much.
 
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jaythecowboy said:
The draft capital the Eagles spent trading up for Wentz was irrelevant to the point I was making. I was referring to Wentz's extension and how the Eagles were able to get away from that deal relatively easily (even potentially getting a 1st round pick in the process). The draft capital the Eagles traded for the #2 pick before the 2016 draft is a sunk cost. Even more irrelevant to the conversation because the Cowboys didn't trade up for Dak.
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him not lasting long its very relevant when you give up all the draft capital and all the money invested etc and still have to get Hurts in the 2nd round..its very relative it was a 40foot deep hole you got 20ft of dirt back to fill it in..get real its huge loss when you do this with player and he not be there 10years and doing very well..

thats why when fans cry about paying romo or fallen short with romo, he was UDFA we spent 20k to take risk on he he stayed long enough to break a ton of records at little cost other then contract..dak 4th rounder less risk but when you swing for the fences and expect a Mahomes and get a JAG well that huge loss..
 
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blueblood70 said:
him not lasting long its very relevant when you give up all the draft capital and all the money invested etc and still have to get Hurts in the 2nd round..its very relative it was a 40foot deep hole you got 20ft of dirt back to fill it in..get real its huge loss when you do this with player and he not be there 10years and doing very well..

thats why when fans cry about paying romo or fallen short with romo, he was UDFA we spent 20k to take risk on he he stayed long enough to break a ton of records at little cost other then contract..dak 4th rounder less risk but when you swing for the fences and expect a Mahomes and get a JAG well that huge loss..
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Like I said before the Cowboys didn't trade up for Dak so there is no big draft capital investment there. So once again it was irrelevant to the point I was making about how easily the Eagles got out of the deal.
 
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jaythecowboy said:
Like I said before the Cowboys didn't trade up for Dak so there is no big draft capital investment there. So once again it was irrelevant to the point I was making about how easily the Eagles got out of the deal.
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big loss big disappointment not cheap so no your point didnt land sorry
 
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lk8701 said:
We could get lucky and receive 2 first round picks for him. The Colts traded for Wentz so they're out of the running. The Saints don't have enough cap room. Maybe a team like the Panthers (8th pick), Jets (2nd pick), or Broncos (9th pick) sign him.
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Jake said:
Should've transition tagged him last year.

His "market value" would've been set by the market then Dallas could've decided to match or not. Problem solved.
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Seems the way to go now. From many comments on this thread, many fans do not want tha scenario...they fear the chance that Prescott will sign an offer with another team and leave Dallas.
 
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blueblood70 said:
big loss big disappointment not cheap so no your point didnt land sorry
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Eagles were able to move on from a deal with $100 million worth of guarantees before Wentz even reached the actual extension years. We'll have to agree to disagree on that.
 
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jaythecowboy said:
Eagles were able to move on from a deal with $100 million worth of guarantees before Wentz even reached the actual extension years. We'll have to agree to disagree on that.
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the bonus money doesnt not go awaay..it was signing bonus first then more bonus he got paid..again it was total failure sorry Jerry was smart to string this along/...
 
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Future said:
Um yes, that is exactly what I was responding to.

You don't get to use the word nuance when your grasp on the English language is the same as an ESL student.
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There you go attacking personally rather than attacking with some actual supporting factual response related to the game.
 
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CATCH17 said:
They should’ve done this last year.

Dallas constantly gives themselves no leverage..

I don’t know if they are trying to negotiate like honorable gentlemen in hopes of a discount but Todd France is making them look like fools.
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Todd isn't doing it. This team is ran by fools.
 
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Hadenough said:
They couldnt trade Dak even if he was on board with it. Nobody is going to give up a 1st round pick for a player that has yet to come back from his latest injury.
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I bet there would be easily, there are a couple of teams that would give up the non exclusive terms and cough up the picks, but I would only be interested in moving Dak in a sign and trade only if we could at least get into position probably around 6 if Fields is there, Wilson would require a trade with the Jets to get up there to the 2.
If the deal was right and the picks were there, I would consider it if I had enough faith in my scouting dept this draft can be a major harvest just from the fact that the evaluation of prospects gets rather vague after the first half of this draft, maybe before then even.
Scouting has a lot to do with film study, no team has a dept big enough to be everywhere, and McClay has some tenure, and respect.
People can say what they want about McClay, but just adding CD, Gallimore, Diggs,, I give thumbs up, and I like having 10 picks in this draft, there is a chance to really grab some steals in the mids rounds especially if your paying attention, because I can guarantee you that there will be some talent slipping into the mid rounds late rounds, more than this league has seen.
 
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blueblood70 said:
the bonus money doesnt not go awaay..it was signing bonus first then more bonus he got paid..again it was total failure sorry Jerry was smart to string this along/...
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I never said it went away. I said that they are able to get out of the deal relatively quickly even though they guaranteed $100 million. A lot of those guarantees are already paid.
 
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Typhus said:
you seem to have that taken care of
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I'm not the one who cries every time I say something off color lol.

If I whined about being called dumb, boy, son, child, idiot, stupid, millenial, or any other the other 400 things I've been called on this board as much as you old guys do, I'd have 100k posts.
 
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Future said:
I'm not the one who cries every time I say something off color lol.

If I whined about being called dumb, boy, son, child, idiot, stupid, millenial, or any other the other 400 things I've been called on this board as much as you old guys do, I'd have 100k posts.
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your quite the gentlemen, try and have a pleasant whatever, wherever you are.
 
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Itd be interesting to see how many teams would be interested and what they'd give for dak if tagged. Dont see anything higher than maybe 2 3rd rounders though with that injury.
 
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sunalsorises said:
The nonexclusive tag actually makes more sense as this goes on and the two sides seemingly can’t agree. I just don’t see it getting easier after another entire year on the exclusive tag.

I’ll throw into the equation here that I seriously doubt NFL games will be at 100% attendance by the fall which will probably keep the salary cap from jumping too much.
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Now it would. Because if they tag him again it will be with the mindset to trade him. Not play him.
 
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jaythecowboy said:
I never said it went away. I said that they are able to get out of the deal relatively quickly even though they guaranteed $100 million. lot of those guarantees are already paid.
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I think people are just trying to understand what you mean by relatively quickly? As opposed to what? Yeah it was quick, but far from easy. I think Wentz broke a record for dead cap.
 
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