Dak in 2020

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this guy gets it

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It isn't just interceptions, it's the ability to quickly progress through your reads, it's the ability to read defenses consistently and accurately - look at the best QB's they are guys who make the reads quickly, release quickly and move the ball. The best games to observe Dak's play are games (good example is the Rams game from 2020 - 3 whopping points scored by the offense in the second half of that game) where he is facing defenses that are above average. You will see the panic, throwing balls short and behind receivers consistently, and offense that is settling for FG's instead of TD's or in most cases going 3 and out over and over again. Can this team do worse than Dak yes. Can they do better than Dak - ALSO YES. When you boil it down paying a guy who is more in the mold of a Kirk Cousins like an elite QB regardless of what the Houston Texans paid Deshaun Watson is stupid.
that's such a minomer about Dak, and a frequent talking point of Dak detractors. based on the WRs performance, such as 2020 or 2019, he spreads the ball around and he goes through his progressions. Once he improved his foot work his accuracy had improved. that was one my pet peeves with him and talked about it on this board in 2017, 2018.....

I love how you dak detractors, cherry pick a game here or there to make a case for an entire career. so Brady never has had a bad half? Rodgers? Brees? Wilson? etc..... they all do. so to take one half of one game and generalize is total non sense, because I can cherry pick anyone to death, including brady.....

there have been plenty of analysis on his throws, and he was proven to be one of the better deep throwers, if anything, the one throw he misses and throws behind the reciever is when the reciever cuts across the field in the short zone (5-10 yards) specially in the middle zone (not the sides toward the sideline), t, he tends to throw behind the WR. but that's nit picking too....

he is the exact opposite of Kirk cousin, as cousins tends to be more like Dalton, folding when the moment is big, but Dak for some reason becomes hyper focused when the game is on the line and games are close, he has the leadership and ability to lift the team in those moments. he has proven that over and over again, given how many comeback wins he has had in the 4th quarter.....

and the market is the market. Wilson three years ago got 35. wentz, goff got 33ish. watson got 40.....mahomes shattered it with average 50...... so market for top 10 QBs is about 40 these days and there is no denying that Dak is a top 10 QB.
 

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I'd say turning the ball over and putting your defense out on the field to get demolished and gassed had a greater impact on the game.
so again, giving up 300 yards rushing has nothing to do with the loss? tell me what giving up 300 yards rushing has to do with that....and to dispell you assumption. first half dallas had the ball for 13:30 and cleveland for 16:30.... that's one extra possession...Defense was gassed for extra 3 minutes? giving up 31 points and 200 yards rushing...come on dude.. we scored 14 points in a half, that's about NFL average. gave up 31. gave up a whole games worth of scores in second quarter...24 points..... and you want to blame the offense for the loss. that's called deparation and grasping at straws....

tell me one team. a single team in NFL history that gave up 300 yards rushing and won the game?

and in the end, despite everything...we were in the game, with 3 minutes to go, within 3 points, the defense gives up a 50 yard run to a WR for Gawd's sake..... tell me if you would hate to be within a 3 point score with 3 minutes to go....

you are truly grasping at straws.
 

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He went 1-3 in the games he started and finished. Giving him the Giants win when he went down in the 3rd quarter of a tight game is ridiculous.

1-3. His only win being the Falcons brain fart on the onsides kick.

With the worst defense in Cowboys history covering his back. Ya Dak went 1-3. Ridiculous.
 

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A lot is being said about Dak's gaudy stats last year and it is worth visiting those numbers.

In the five games Dak played in, he threw 4 ints and fumbled 3 times. The numerous Cowboy mistakes made them play catch up all/most of the games. Dak threw a lot of passes against bad or prevent defenses last year. He did not have to face the Commanders front 7 either time. The Cowboys went 2-3 in those games needing a miracle to beat the lowly Falcons.

Yes, Dak put up some huge yards in those games. I like Dak, his skill set and his leadership.

With that said, giving him 40 mil per will put this team squarely where it has been. Average.

If the Cowboys can get a first and a third(or more), you need to avoid cap disaster. Dak needs help to win and if anything 2020 proved that.





While pointing out some of Prescott's stats you forgot to mention that he had 9TD's and 2 of the 4 picks were balls tipped at the line of scrimmage and 1 of the fumbles was when his arm was cocked to throw and the ball was hit before his arm went forward. You also left off that he had a 68 completion percentage and average yards of 8.4 which would have been 2nd in the league.
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Don't see any team willing to give up for than maybe 2 3rd rounders for dak.
 

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He had a great line? In 2019? Great running back? In 2019? Great receivers? They led the league in drops in 2019.......are we overrating this talent around him?

Top 5 oline and rb
Not like they were close to being average or below
 

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While pointing out some of Prescott's stats you forgot to mention that he had 9TD's and 2 of the 4 picks were balls tipped at the line of scrimmage and 1 of the fumbles was when his arm was cocked to throw and the ball was hit before his arm went forward. You also left off that he had a 68 completion percentage and average yards of 8.4 which would have been 2nd in the league.
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those facts are quite inconvenient truth's for Dak detractors.
 

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A lot is being said about Dak's gaudy stats last year and it is worth visiting those numbers.

In the five games Dak played in, he threw 4 ints and fumbled 3 times. The numerous Cowboy mistakes made them play catch up all/most of the games. Dak threw a lot of passes against bad or prevent defenses last year. He did not have to face the Commanders front 7 either time. The Cowboys went 2-3 in those games needing a miracle to beat the lowly Falcons.

Yes, Dak put up some huge yards in those games. I like Dak, his skill set and his leadership.

With that said, giving him 40 mil per will put this team squarely where it has been. Average.

If the Cowboys can get a first and a third(or more), you need to avoid cap disaster. Dak needs help to win and if anything 2020 proved that.
I don't like to say Dak went 2-3. We we losing that Giants game when he got injured. Dak went 1-3 last year in my book.

Dak would not have sustained those numbers. That is just not realistic. It's the same way Wilson didn't sustain his crazy TD numbers.

Any QB needs help to win. Some more than others, of course. I believe Dak in in that "some" category.
 

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Yes.. And the Falcons..

What I know that you don't I guess is that the Falcons, Browns, and Seahawks were some of the worst teams in the entire league at defending the pass and those pass stats that a lot of you were oh so happy about came because he threw the ball nearly 50 or 60 times against teams that couldn't guard it.

The Rams? They had no problem shutting down the greatest offense ever in the 2nd half when we played them. You know why? Because they don't suck at defense.
yes, Dak faced 3 playoff teams, two of which went 1-1 in the playoffs..

Dalton faced 3 4 win teams, playing their back up QB and barely won...he choked. outright choked against a 5 win team with their starting QBs..

and now your spin excuses begin....

and you always like to nit pick a play here, a play there, or a quarter of a specific game.....so you want me do the same nitpicking for Brady? Brees? Rodgers? Mahomes? I mean you saw mahomes in the superbowl and how he choked, right?

you always have a tendency to over generalize based on little thing. its like you are missing the forest because of the trees.....you got to work on that.
 

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yup but he collected 32 mil for 4 games and yet zekes 5 lost fumbles and 13 mil he made last year is worse at least zeke played 14 plus games and gave it what he had

so 5 TS in 14/15 games 13 mil

Dak 7 in 4 32 mil
itrs insane the hate zeke gets for those truly just 2 bad games B2B and dak gets off th hook and should get 40 LOL right
OMG, now you are faulting Dak for breaking his ankle.... you can't be serious.....
 

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Yes.. And the Falcons..

What I know that you don't I guess is that the Falcons, Browns, and Seahawks were some of the worst teams in the entire league at defending the pass and those pass stats that a lot of you were oh so happy about came because he threw the ball nearly 50 or 60 times against teams that couldn't guard it.

The Rams? They had no problem shutting down the greatest offense ever in the 2nd half when we played them. You know why? Because they don't suck at defense.
What's your point? What does any of this have to do with the fact the Browns, Falcons and Seahawks lit our defense up and caused us to lose the game?
 

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yes, Dak faced 3 playoff teams, two of which went 1-1 in the playoffs..

Dalton faced 3 4 win teams, playing their back up QB and barely won...he choked. outright choked against a 5 win team with their starting QBs..

and now your spin excuses begin....

and you always like to nit pick a play here, a play there, or a quarter of a specific game.....so you want me do the same nitpicking for Brady? Brees? Rodgers? Mahomes? I mean you saw mahomes in the superbowl and how he choked, right?

you always have a tendency to over generalize based on little thing. its like you are missing the forest because of the trees.....you got to work on that.
They know this but they play stupid and look at all the likes he got for that stupid comment lol...they must be burner accounts lol.
 
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