The reason Dak isn't signed yet

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Rayman70

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Agree. I don’t think Dak is doing this but his agent. His agent promised his new company that he will deliver a big contract with Dak and has not delivered yet. If the reports are true that Dak wanted to sign the contract last year but it was too late than I believe Dak wants to be here and it is his agent who is holding him back.
agree. History is repeating itself.
 

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Dak is making a HUGE career mistake of which he will never recover. He will be a FB God here in Dallas if he signs and wins. He already almost has the keys to the city lol...TONS of endorsements. He is loved. If he walks and a team like say New England gets him, he will never live up to Tom Brady and will always fall short. Dallas is the best place he can be and his agent doesn't have his well being in mind. The agent is looking out for himself,period. He's trying to impress his new Boss/agency.
 

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Dak is making a HUGE career mistake of which he will never recover. He will be a FB God here in Dallas if he signs and wins. He already almost has the keys to the city lol...TONS of endorsements. He is loved. If he walks and a team like say New England gets him, he will never live up to Tom Brady and will always fall short. Dallas is the best place he can be and his agent doesn't have his well being in mind. The agent is looking out for himself,period. He's trying to impress his new Boss/agency.
Playing hardball with the Cowboys has not proven to be a mistake...it’s made quite a few people rich.
 

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But why? Why be so stubborn and want 5 years instead of 4 and now 4 years instead of 3?

Just give him his 3 year contract. In the end it may be a blessing for the Cowboys.
It would unprecedented to give a top tier starter a contract that doesn't lock up the player for five years.

With top tier QB contracts already pushing the limits of responsible team management it's possible that the Jones don't want to be the ones to set a precedent for shorter term contracts. I don't blame them one bit.
 

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1. His asking price must be too high again

2. Mike M must not have full faith in him, as does Stephen

Both go hand in hand.

If they thought he was the elite QB, some here believe, he would get whatever. Mike would let it be known, "bro, we need this dude by any means"

I'm not a Dak fan, but ready for this to be over.

Trade him or just out right let him walk.

Did you forget all about that horrific compound fracture and dislocated ankle in Oct? Did you forget about the second hidden surgery on the deltoid ligament, a very strong ligament where surgery is uncommon unless the injury is very major?

Are we all to assume that all is well with the leg? If Dak begins the season on PUP, what does that do concerning negotiations? What if Dak can’t even play this year?

If I am GM, I am offering nothing until I see him run, cut, push off on that plant foot, and make all the throws and I want an independent diagnosis on his leg with 2nd and 3rd opinions. No tag.
 

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if Jerry comes out and says he will do right by Dak because they think of him as family, thus letting him walk and getting nothing in return, then I think I may be done. It would be a terrible business model. To answer the question as to why Dak isn't signed, its simple really. ANSWER IS TODD FRANCE. Dak has been misled and misrepresented woefully. Greed and the iron fist approach by the agent has taken over again. Until that changes drastically, he won't be a cowboy. The only option soon may be to tag him and find a trade partner Dak feels good about so he can start for a team. Seattle is starting to make some sense actually. Hard to believe, but Wilson is starting to look like a cheaper option than keeping Dak the longer this drags out. Question will be what will it take. The most I would do is a 1st round pick in 2022, a conditional 1st in 2023, and a couple players..ie like Jaylon Smith and or Zeke. A package like ZEKE AND DAK coupled with a 1st in 2022 might be enough to land Wilson. It helps both teams NOW. Plus we would hold onto our picks mostly so we can fix the D.
This is where fans are misunderstood. France is serving Daks interest NOT the Cowboys.

And if Cowboy fans can look beyond the trees for the forest they might see that Daks best interest financially might not be in Dallas.
 

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Cowboys Mgmt is going to be crucified for not getting a deal done with Dak.

The fact we’ve pushed this to the limit by not signing him earlier is either going to cost us millions or losing our Franchise QB.
 

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But why? Why be so stubborn and want 5 years instead of 4 and now 4 years instead of 3?

Just give him his 3 year contract. In the end it may be a blessing for the Cowboys.
Very good question, the other QB's were signing 4 year deals and the Joneses were stuck on 5 and with the rumor of where the cap will be and escalating QB contracts, this deal isn't going to be extraordinary even in 2022, if they do the longer term deal.

Part of this is unique to the Cowboys because they have the only owner than demands attention so we never know how much that is playing into anything but that has been the MO since he saw the attention Johnson was getting.

I cannot stand the sight or sound of that ugly sack of monkey poop.
 

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But why? Why be so stubborn and want 5 years instead of 4 and now 4 years instead of 3?

Just give him his 3 year contract. In the end it may be a blessing for the Cowboys.

It’s the Cowboy way. Long term contracts to spread out the payments and borrow from Peter to pay Paul.
 

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And that appears to be where we’re heading with this unless there’s some kind of awakening before March 9th deadline.

And for those who are wondering why they are wanting FA in 2024 is cause 2023 is when the new Collective Bargaining agreement is up for renewal and there’s always been a sizable increase in the players share and Cap. And would be an excellent time for your contract to be up for renewal.

If we got a deal done in 2018 like we should have before his Rookie deal expired and France came on the scene then we could have had the 5 year deal we wanted. If we had real football guys running our franchise they’d of known by then if he was our guy and not waited until his Rookie deal ran out.

If a deal can’t be had the Jones are going to be crucified and rightfully so. At least here locally. We have some that want to fault Dak and France but it was our hesitation early on that has brought us to this impasse. We didn’t hesitate with some of our other big contracts but we have with Dak and it’s going to cost us either in salary or losing our Franchise QB. Totally mismanaged by our dysfunctional organization!!!!!

I wonder how the strategy of playing on the tag and becoming a free agent factors into this timeline. It’s not like anyone is going to give Dak a two-year deal as a free agent. Also, Dak could potentially be tagged two more times at the end of year three basically making it a five year deal with years four and five all guaranteed.

In any event, I don’t see how they can’t work something out that takes all of this into account.
 

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Very good question, the other QB's were signing 4 year deals and the Joneses were stuck on 5 and with the rumor of where the cap will be and escalating QB contracts, this deal isn't going to be extraordinary even in 2022, if they do the longer term deal.

Part of this is unique to the Cowboys because they have the only owner than demands attention so we never know how much that is playing into anything but that has been the MO since he saw the attention Johnson was getting.

I cannot stand the sight or sound of that ugly sack of monkey poop.
That ugly sack of monkey poop is being bashed locally over the airwaves and in print for delaying a deal with Dak. It’s either going to cost us millions or losing our Franchise QB.
 

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Then same criteria for Aikman & Romo. They too weren't elite. They were average. Were not accurate. Needed talent around them.

Romo was never elite , he was good

Aikman was elite
Since we are discussing in hindsight we cannot take Aikmans SBs and playoff performances out of the discussion. With Aikman you are postulating that Aikman would not have won without the cast around him while with Romo and Dak you are postulating that they would have won with better players. One actually did it 3 times and the other 2 never even got to within shouting distance even once. When you actually win the greatest game 3 times only a moron or complete idiot would assert that you are not elite. Unfortunately I’ve gotten used to dealing with idiots and complete morons on CZ over the years. And unfortunately you are not the only one
 

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I wonder how the strategy of playing on the tag and becoming a free agent factors into this timeline. It’s not like anyone is going to give Dak a two-year deal as a free agent. Also, Dak could potentially be tagged two more times at the end of year three basically making it a five year deal with years four and five all guaranteed.

In any event, I don’t see how they can’t work something out that takes all of this into account.
The Cowboys have waited too long . If they wanted a more team friendly deal they should have extended him back in 2018 before his Rookie deal ran out. We knew then he was our guy.

It’s all in Daks hands now and has been since he signed the Tag last year. It’s going to cost us either millions more than we wanted or losing our Franchise QB. The Jones are being crucified locally over the airways and print for potentially jeopardizing our QB.
 

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1. His asking price must be too high again

2. Mike M must not have full faith in him, as does Stephen

Both go hand in hand.

If they thought he was the elite QB, some here believe, he would get whatever. Mike would let it be known, "bro, we need this dude by any means"

I'm not a Dak fan, but ready for this to be over.

Trade him or just out right let him walk.

So when he does sign, are all the haters going to let go of number 2?
 

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The Cowboys have waited too long . If they wanted a more team friendly deal they should have extended him back in 2018 before his Rookie deal ran out. We knew then he was our guy.

It’s all in Daks hands now and has been since he signed the Tag last year. It’s going to cost us either millions more than we wanted or losing our Franchise QB. The Jones are being crucified locally over the airways and print for potentially jeopardizing our QB.

The Joneses knew Dak was their guy when they benched and retired Romo for him.
 

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That ugly sack of monkey poop is being bashed locally over the airwaves and in print for delaying a deal with Dak. It’s either going to cost us millions or losing our Franchise QB.
No matter which side of the argument we are on here, Booger is wearing the black hat if this doesn't get done.

He's got players on the team and ex players in the Prescott camp. He is close to solidifying his reputation as an incompetent GM. at least in the media and the media matters to him more than anyone else in the NFL.

And I am sorry if I offended any monkeys in the making of that post.
 

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I’ve never seen anyone arguing that he’s elite. I’ve seen people argue that he’s very good, and in this league, very good QBs can demand the same amount as elite QBs.

The argument is whether it’s better to pay the good QB, or gamble that we can find someone better.
 
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