Dak - What Is Your Solution?

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He'll be their starter come 2021. I only saw a little of him. The only thing I can say is that I expected him to look much worse than he did. What little I saw was at the very least an upgrade from Alex Smith. I'm guessing Smith will be released.
now I remember. he ran a lot.
one game does not a career make....he was an unknown and the WFT leaned on its defense....once there is more film on him, defensive coordinators will tear him apart. that's usually what happens....
 

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Let him walk. Draft Mac Jones and hit the reset button. This team is not close to competing.

Tagging Dak is a path to nowhere and leaves us forced to sign him to his terms or redo a lot of big contracts and have no money to rebuild the defense. We gave it a go with him for 5 years and we were never close. There is absolutely no reason to sign up for 4-5 more years of it.
 

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Spell it out. Put it in one thread.

To me there is no trade available that will keep the draft picks in hand to rebuild the defense. So it is sign Dak for me. I see him as a consistent player that can get it done if you can give him protection.

All the defense needs is to keep the opponent under 23 PPG. With the TE's, WR's, and running game, Dallas should average more than that.

I say keep Dak and let go of these silly trades. Andy Dalton is not a solution, by the way. If you pay 40m, well so what. You can ditch Zeke next year. Backload the contract if you need to. Dump Jaylon and push some of that money toward Gallup. But get this done and move on.

Now what is your plan? This is not a slander Dak thread, but your idea. I see a great deal of post attacking Dak that offer zero plans for replacing him. But these people are quick to call Dak out, but little on what they would do other than play Madden with ideas that cannot work.

Here is your shot to GM this situation. Let's see what you got.

That's probably the most realistic scenario, which also allows us to compete, IF we can draft well on DEFENSE.
 

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Sign and trade Dak to Carolina, where he will do well.
Receive a 1st and 3rd (and 5th?) from Carolina.
Maybe a 1st in 2022. Not entirely sure of the value scale.

Pick defense with picks 8 and 10.
Possibly get back into a 1st round late pick
with a combination of 3rd round picks as trade bait.
Maybe get a Mac Jones or the next guy in order on the QB list.

Sign a veteran. Ryan Fitzpatrick would be fun in this offense
for half a season, or so.

Or, go after Sam Darnold, who likely will be available in trade or FA.

I wonder what Trubisky would look like in Dallas. Frankly, I think the spotlight of
being Dallas Cowboys Quarterback would melt him into a puddle.
 

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Russell Wilson is one of the highest paid QBs in the league and he is now under the gun to win and there are no excuses for him. Do you really want to pay Dak even more than Russell because once that contract is signed the expectations of Dak to be a top 5 QB are never going to go away. You cannot pay Dak like he is one of the elite QBs when he is not. I would tell Dak we cant afford you and were gonna let you go and draft a QB with the #10 pick in the first round and sign Dalton.
 

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Russell Wilson is one of the highest paid QBs in the league and he is now under the gun to win and there are no excuses for him. Do you really want to pay Dak even more than Russell because once that contract is signed the expectations of Dak to be a top 5 QB are never going to go away. You cannot pay Dak like he is one of the elite QBs when he is not. I would tell Dak we cant afford you and were gonna let you go and draft a QB with the #10 pick in the first round and sign Dalton.

Lololol good chance 5 qbs are gone by 10...good plan
 

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They better hope a QB drops this year. We won pointless football games last year and our draft stock dropped, so that will make that harder. I don't really see how Dak can be here long term unless they sign him to some monstrous deal. He's going to play on the franchise tag until they can't tag him anymore and dip out.
Yep, that higher pick could've been the leverage for Dak to sign as well, people left this out of the discussion during the season. "I'm a fan, fan like win" etc

If we're @ 3 with potentially Fields/Wilson sitting there, Dak likely becomes reasonable all of a sudden. Or we take the QB and trade Dak for picks. Now we have neither; maybe a starting cb/lb and 38M QB coming off injury. We can't even trade him bc he can't pass a physical. (ninja has made this point a few times)
 
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Coach, forget Staubach. These Cowboys are not good. Why pay a QB on a rebuild? Makes no sense.
Flim Flamma, it's only a rebuild if Booger agrees to that.

I happen to agree that they do need a rebuild and refocus but that doesn't fit into Booger's promotional plans. And there is that rather large contingency of fans that look forward to the spin every season and line up for the fleecing.

I used to get into that "next year will be our year" when I thought they might be building toward something but he doesn't know a bad team form a good team until he's seen it play and even then has to try and weave his Pollyanna crap into it. Any good seasons we've had were more luck than planning.

Besides that, what good is a rebuild with this builder?
 

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Yep, that higher pick could've been the leverage for Dak to sign as well, people left this out of the discussion during the season. "I'm a fan, fan like win" etc

If we're @ 3 with potentially Fields/Wilson sitting there, Dak likely becomes reasonable all of a sudden. Or we take the QB and trade Dak for picks. Now we have neither; maybe a starting cb/lb and 38M QB coming off injury. We can't even trade him bc he can't pass a physical. (ninja has made this point a few times)
I am not sure he cares if they pick a QB or not. I think he might have grown weary of the whole Jones show and realizes just how bad they are at their jobs.

When he was at Miss St, some think he put them on the map when they rose to #1 in the rankings and he certainly helped but that defense was the best in the country at that time so Prescott gets team and one of the QB's best friends.

Is he really built to put up 35 a game and throw for 400? I think if he was with a team that he could just manage the offense and not have to score every time he had the ball he would be a much more effective QB.
 

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I am not sure he cares if they pick a QB or not. I think he might have grown weary of the whole Jones show and realizes just how bad they are at their jobs.

When he was at Miss St, some think he put them on the map when they rose to #1 in the rankings and he certainly helped but that defense was the best in the country at that time so Prescott gets team and one of the QB's best friends.

Is he really built to put up 35 a game and throw for 400? I think if he was with a team that he could just manage the offense and not have to score every time he had the ball he would be a much more effective QB.
I think Dak would be great to with support, but he wants top dollar (anything @ 35 or above)
Some QBs are worthy of the inflated price just to keep their talent on the team, maybe not 35 and 400 every week but know they are capable. Rodgers, Mahomes, and the elite QBs do this consistently and why they warrant the contract Dak wants. The Eagles and Rams had to get out of their bad contracts bc they weren't Rodgers or Mahomes. If Dak were to sign for 30M, then people would accept his "type" of QB.

I see your point if he just wants to get out of here, but he also wants to get paid elite money. If we're @ 3, I think it just would've taken the rug out from under that. With Wilson/Fields rumors, he may just want to be traded too so who knows tbh
 
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My solution whether we sign him or not is to never end up in theses days

 

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My solution whether we sign him or not is to never end up in theses days



So we pay elite money to an average QB because sometime in the past we had bad journey QB's that were playing for the team. Building a better defense and beefing the offensive line back up is going to solve a lot of your problems without needing to pay Dak.
 

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I wouldn't bet since I don't like gambling but I'm pretty sure.
ahhh, backing out so quickly....so you just spitting out rhetoric and thumping your chest.... let me know when you are willing to back up your statement....got balls?
 

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So we pay elite money to an average QB because sometime in the past we had bad journey QB's that were playing for the team. Building a better defense and beefing the offensive line back up is going to solve a lot of your problems without needing to pay Dak.

Where did I say an opinion? I’ve already stated a million times that I’m a Dak fan but at a certain price. I don’t want to overpay
 

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Where did I say an opinion? I’ve already stated a million times that I’m a Dak fan but at a certain price. I don’t want to overpay

The price that is being demanded is for Deshaun Watson type of money. In my opinion we passed the overpay line a long time ago. Realistically Dak is a QB you would want to retain at 20 mil a year. He isn't the athlete that Watson is and he certainly has never carried a team. Furthermore if we can say that Deshaun Watson is overpaied at 39 - 40 million a year, how then do you say with any sort of credibility that Dak is worth that?
 

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I think Dak would be great to with support, but he wants top dollar (anything @ 35 or above)
Some QBs are worthy of the inflated price just to keep their talent on the team, maybe not 35 and 400 every week but know they are capable. Rodgers, Mahomes, and the elite QBs do this consistently and why they warrant the contract Dak wants. The Eagles and Rams had to get out of their bad contracts bc they weren't Rodgers or Mahomes. If Dak were to sign for 30M, then people would accept his "type" of QB.

I see your point if he just wants to get out of here, but he also wants to get paid elite money. If we're @ 3, I think it just would've taken the rug out from under that. With Wilson/Fields rumors, he may just want to be traded too so who knows tbh
All of these QB's, and players for that matter, are Have Gun, Will Relocate. They all know there is a time limit to their earnings potential and that time can come to an end abruptly.
 

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Flim Flamma, it's only a rebuild if Booger agrees to that.

I happen to agree that they do need a rebuild and refocus but that doesn't fit into Booger's promotional plans. And there is that rather large contingency of fans that look forward to the spin every season and line up for the fleecing.

I used to get into that "next year will be our year" when I thought they might be building toward something but he doesn't know a bad team form a good team until he's seen it play and even then has to try and weave his Pollyanna crap into it. Any good seasons we've had were more luck than planning.

Besides that, what good is a rebuild with this builder?

You're right. What you said does seem to be the case. But whether or not he wants a rebuild, it's going to be what he's doing. When you let a lot of guys walk, what you're doing is rebuilding to some extent. How many are gone after the 2020 season? How many will be gone after 2021? This past year was also a lot more evident that the something drastic needs to happen with this roster. I have a hard time believing Jerry could have watched 2020 and say to himself, yeah, all we need to do is get a few pieces, sign Dak, and we're good to go for a run. Would I fall off my chair in shock if that was his approach? No. But I have doubts.
 

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The price that is being demanded is for Deshaun Watson type of money. In my opinion we passed the overpay line a long time ago. Realistically Dak is a QB you would want to retain at 20 mil a year. He isn't the athlete that Watson is and he certainly has never carried a team. Furthermore if we can say that Deshaun Watson is overpaied at 39 - 40 million a year, how then do you say with any sort of credibility that Dak is worth that?


I’m super confused. Are you quoting the right person? I’ve never brought up Watson and just said I don’t want to overpay.
 
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