Tag him and trade him

khiladi

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KING DAK has spoken!:muttley:

Can’t wait for his brother and squad to give us their opinion on this matter on Twitter as well and for them to talk about the ‘socio-economic’ agenda of Jerry as the reason why Dak isn’t getting paid what is “rightfully” his. I also can’t wait for Dez’s input on the matter as well.
 

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Who says most feel it would end his career? We could easily let Dak play on the tag AGAIN this year and tag him again. That would allow us another offseason to trade Dak. Dak isnt going anywhere at least for another year unless we trade him now.
His career in Dallas not the league. I haven’t read or heard of any local beat writer , sports broadcaster or personality that believes we’d pay the 140% in a 3rd tag. No one in the NFL ever has.
 

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The March 9th deadline is fast approaching . And if no deal can be struck perhaps Tagging him is best option.

And since most feel that would mark the end of Daks career in Dallas then trading him would be best option so we at least recoup some value for him.

Otherwise he simply walks at the end of 2021 season as a Free Agent. A 3rd year Tag would cost 140% of average highest QB translating to well over 55 million for 2022 season.

Tagging and trading is looking like best option if we can’t get a deal done.
Tag and trade is not a bad idea...
 

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The only thing Dak has going for him from a negotiating standpoint is Jerry has no backup QB option in place. But according to Dak-stans it shouldn’t matter, because the roster is garbage anyways and that’s why we always go 8-8 and it’s not Dak’s fault. So why pay for this QB who only gets them to 8-8. Jerry can’t build anything per this logic, so let Dak walk to a team that has a good GM and they will ‘sail’ to the SB.
 

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What you said and I'll quote you "A 3rd year Tag would cost 140% of average highest QB" and that's not how it works. The 140% is 140% of Prescott's salary for 2021 or the average of the top 5 QB's salaries whichever is higher.
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I understand. I didn’t say what I was thinking. I meant to say the average of the top QB’s. That was plural. And I knew it was the top 5. Just didn’t say it that way. Thanks
 

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There is no guarantee the cap is going to go up. There isn’t an infinite money supply and COVID should have taught people that by now. This is probably the main reason why negotiations are slow anyways, although I hope it’s more that Dak isn’t going to be here and Jones says buh-bye.

“With the COVID-19 pandemic wreaking havoc, the expectation has been that the salary cap would fall significantly from 2020's $198.2 million budget. After years of increasing by tens of millions of dollars, the fall is expected to be precipitous. The new floor mitigates some of that decrease.”

“Until the official cap is set, teams won't know exactly how much room they'll have to maneuver through free agency in 2021. At the very least, the new floor gives clubs a starting point to begin making plans ahead of the new league year, which opens on March 17.”

https://www.nfl.com/news/nfl-increases-minimum-salary-cap-to-180-million-in-2021
 
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@Diehardblues First of all no one is trading jack squat for a QB of questionable talent who had a horrific injury 5 months ago and can’t pass a physical before free agency or the draft and wants $40M/year. No one. So trading Dak is not a possibility before the draft.

Second, you can’t rescind the tag once the player signs. Say you tag Dak day one and he immediately signs. You are on the hook for $37M regardless if Dak can’t even play the year or starts the season on PUP. Say Dak signs the tag and comes back a month later and says ‘sorry Jerry, doc says the leg isn’t healing as fast as expected. Definitely PUP and might not be able to play in 2021. You just flushed $37M down the toilet and killed the season.

Too much risk with the tag. No one is trading squat for Dak or signing Dak to a mega-contract until, and only until, he can pass a physical and lower his contract demands.

Tell me when he can pass a rigorous physical which includes running, cutting, and throwing and independent doctors weighing in positively.

Assume nothing about Dak’s leg. Dak has to prove his leg is sound or no tag, no contract, nothing. Let him become a free agent and all teams will say no.

Precision rationality has entered the picture. I completely didn’t view the franchise tag from this angle. Coupled with nobody knows what the cap is going to be, other than its most likely dropping significant from last year because of COVID, the whatever is happening in the news is inflated nonsense, unless Jones has completely lost his mind. Dak better worry about rehab and proving he can play again and Jerry can let him “, his brother and squad cry about respect all they want and let Dak follow other teams on social media like the Commanders to posture some more and blow some more hot air.
 

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Why not?

Why can't a second massive bonus in three years be part of things?

Ever see a NFL contract structured like that? There's a reason.

One is with an expiring contract there is leverage there on the part of the player if he continues to play well. Dak is likely to put more cash in his bank account over a 4 year period if he signs a three year deal now and then another three year deal in Year 4 than signing a longer 6-7-8 year deal.
 

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Not necessarily. Because his tag number is like $53 million next year. Teams will know there is zero chance we will carry that number on our books so teams will low ball us.

There's also the inconvenient fact that other teams would need to have similar cap space available to even consider it.
 

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That's a much worse idea than tagging him, continuing to work on a new deal, playing this year, and then continuing trying to sign him next
Playing on the tag this year meaning the end of his career in Dallas is ridiculous.

Your idea is way worse than his on so many levels. Tag and keep him this year while you keep trying to sign him ? Lol.... he knows we won’t be able to afford to tag him for a third year so our only option is to back up the armored car and give him whatever he wants. And he also gets to be a free agent because we can’t tag him again. So he can name his price with us while he wheels and deals with any other team. And the Cowboys get extorted or lose him and get nothing for him. If they can’t reach a deal, tagging and trading him is the only non-stupid thing to do.
 

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His career in Dallas not the league. I haven’t read or heard of any local beat writer , sports broadcaster or personality that believes we’d pay the 140% in a 3rd tag. No one in the NFL ever has.

The Seahawks did with Walter Jones.
 

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Everyone always forgets you cant trade him unless he signs the tag which effectively gives him veto power over any trade or he can just wait until after the draft to sign the tag thus rendering any trade moot.
 

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Everyone always forgets you cant trade him unless he signs the tag which effectively gives him veto power over any trade or he can just wait until after the draft to sign the tag thus rendering any trade moot.
what I said above :thumbup:
 

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The only thing Dak has going for him from a negotiating standpoint is Jerry has no backup QB option in place. But according to Dak-stans it shouldn’t matter, because the roster is garbage anyways and that’s why we always go 8-8 and it’s not Dak’s fault. So why pay for this QB who only gets them to 8-8. Jerry can’t build anything per this logic, so let Dak walk to a team that has a good GM and they will ‘sail’ to the SB.

Jerry has some backup plans, now, whether he wants to exercise them is another thing. Or, he could become again the bumbling fool like he has been and pay The Dak what he wants is the other.
 

khiladi

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Jerry has some backup plans, now, whether he wants to exercise them is another thing. Or, he could become again the bumbling fool like he has been and pay The Dak what he wants is the other.

Have you heard anything regarding back-up Qb scenarios?
 

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There's also the inconvenient fact that other teams would need to have similar cap space available to even consider it.

Sure. More than likely any team would have had permission to talk to France and Dak about a long term deal before the trade. You are right, no team would willingly trade for him and then have him play on that 53 million tag.

The reality is if no longer term deal gets done this year, I think he's gone in 2022. They'll probably have to let him walk via FA.
 
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