Why Dak’s new deal is a normal sports transaction

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Professional athletes are not always paid in direct proportion to to their ability nor their playoff accomplishments. They are paid according to what the market dictates for their position. That’s the way it has worked for a very long time.

Pro athletes on their second contract in almost every sports league are paid according to what the market dictates along with age and perceived potential. Which is why older players with a great performance history at the end of their careers rarely get paid as much as a younger guy with more youth and upside. For example, when Jerry Rice played the last few years of his career, he wasn’t the highest paid WR. Tom Brady at 43, the GOAT, the best ever, will not make as much as these young QBs are getting today.

In a perfect sports world, players would be paid according to what they have done and in comparison to what other players at that position have done. But that’s not the way it works and it has been this way for decades. Dak is no different than any other 27 year old QB who is considered in the top 10-15. They ALL are going to get paid outrageously according to the market.

I’m not here to argue that this system is right, fair or effective. But it is consistent. Dak got what starting QBs his age get these days. It wasn’t a “greed grab”. Jerry didn’t “cave”. (He should have signed him earlier but that’s another topic) It was dictated by a market that overpays.
 
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To me the problem is either a) you live with the modern QB contract because you think the guy is worth it, or b) you drop them when they get too expensive and draft a new one to stay ahead of the QB inflation curve and spend the savings on stacking the rest of the roster like mad.

The Cowboys did neither one and ended up in a worse position for it. It's not the end of the world like some doomers are making it out to be, but it's just kind of dumb.
 
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All I can say is we could be Philadelphia!
 
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JIMMYBUFFETT said:
It really is that simple. It's just what they make these days. You can pay it or you can do without.
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Exactly. The decision the Cowboys FO made was simple. They decided they want a starting QB that is a proven starter. They didn’t want to start back at ground zero to find a replacement. What baffles me is why JJ didn’t sign Dak earlier.
 
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StuckMojo said:
So every QB that’s signing should be getting most guaranteed money ever?
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They most definetly should. And I hope that's the case. How in the hell are these guys playing the most physical sport in the world and don't have guaranteed contracts? Good for Dak and his team. I hope others follow suit. ITs already a shame the NFL has made billions off the backs of guys like Randy White, Drew Pearson, Everson Walls, etc....now is the time to pay up for all the past robbing they did.
 
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Bobhaze said:
Professional athletes are not always paid in direct proportion to to their ability nor their playoff accomplishments. They are paid according to what the market dictates for their position. That’s the way it has worked for a very long time.

Pro athletes on their second contract in almost every sports league are paid according to what the market dictates along with age and perceived potential. Which is why older players with a great performance history at the end of their careers rarely get paid as much as a younger guy with more youth and upside. For example, when Jerry Rice played the last few years of his career, he wasn’t the highest paid WR. Tom Brady at 43, the GOAT, the best ever, will not make as much as these young QBs are getting today.

In a perfect sports world, players would be paid according to what they have done and in comparison to what other players at that position have done. But that’s not the way it works and it has been this way for decades. Dak is no different than any other 27 year old QB who is considered in the top 10-15. They ALL are going to get paid outrageously according to the market.

I’m not here to argue that this system is right, fair or effective. But it is consistent. Dak got what starting QBs his age get these days. It wasn’t a “greed grab”. Jerry didn’t “cave”. (He should have signed him earlier but that’s another topic) It was dictated by a market that overpays.
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The market doesn't over pay for good QB's and Dak's pay day is a gross overpayment for his return so far.
 
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Brax said:
The market doesn't over pay for good QB's and Dak's pay day is a gross overpayment for his return so far.
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The market wildly overpays for good QBs. Derek Carr was once the highest paid player in NFL history. Then Kirk Cousins was. Then Carson got the most guaranteed ever, beating out Goff’s most guaranteed ever. Remember the preposterous deal Falco signed? What about Osweiler? Once upon a time Scott Mitchell was the highest paid, I still remember the mammoth deal Daunte Culpepper got.

If you’re good enough to make pro bowls, then they’ll pay you top dollar. It’s been that way for awhile. Dak’s deal is par for the course
 
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StuckMojo said:
So every QB that’s signing should be getting most guaranteed money ever?
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Dallas hands out big guarantees when needed to play with cap hits. Other teams do not have the cash/do not want to hand out such a big check at once.
Players love it as they get paid ASAP.
 
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All I can say is we could be Philadelphia!
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You do know Philly won a SB recently, Jerry is 25 years and counting and counting and counting. Sad part is that Jerry can not trade Dak average when it gets worse, but don't worry today Jerry will tell you his (yearly) team is primed to win it all and some fools will believe him.
 
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Bobhaze said:
Professional athletes are not always paid in direct proportion to to their ability nor their playoff accomplishments. They are paid according to what the market dictates for their position. That’s the way it has worked for a very long time.

Pro athletes on their second contract in almost every sports league are paid according to what the market dictates along with age and perceived potential. Which is why older players with a great performance history at the end of their careers rarely get paid as much as a younger guy with more youth and upside. For example, when Jerry Rice played the last few years of his career, he wasn’t the highest paid WR. Tom Brady at 43, the GOAT, the best ever, will not make as much as these young QBs are getting today.

In a perfect sports world, players would be paid according to what they have done and in comparison to what other players at that position have done. But that’s not the way it works and it has been this way for decades. Dak is no different than any other 27 year old QB who is considered in the top 10-15. They ALL are going to get paid outrageously according to the market.

I’m not here to argue that this system is right, fair or effective. But it is consistent. Dak got what starting QBs his age get these days. It wasn’t a “greed grab”. Jerry didn’t “cave”. (He should have signed him earlier but that’s another topic) It was dictated by a market that overpays.
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Sensible Football Fans have known the above facts, sadly the Dak Less Lovers (formerly Haters) took us down a destructive path but thankfully Dak Less Lovers were feckless
 
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Bobhaze said:
I’m not here to argue that this system is right, fair or effective. But it is consistent. Dak got what starting QBs his age get these days. It wasn’t a “greed grab”. Jerry didn’t “cave”. (He should have signed him earlier but that’s another topic) It was dictated by a market that overpays.
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"I'm not known as a guy who gets hand cramps when I'm writing checks..." - Jerry, 2019 speaking about Dak's upcoming contract.

He was always going to pay him. Personally, I use the term "cave" for posters who deluded themselves into thinking Jerry didn't want him, wasn't going to pay him, agreed with their assessment of him, and argued with people like me who said all along that Dak wasn't going anywhere, whether we liked it or not.

As recently as yesterday morning we had people patting themselves on the back for being "right" when they said Dak wouldn't get a new contract from Dallas. :muttley:
 
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Aerolithe_Lion said:
The market wildly overpays for good QBs. Derek Carr was once the highest paid player in NFL history. Then Kirk Cousins was. Then Carson got the most guaranteed ever, beating out Goff’s most guaranteed ever. Remember the preposterous deal Falcon signed? What about Osweiler? Once upon a time Scott Mitchell was the highest paid, I still remember the mammoth deal Daunte Culpepper got.

If you’re good enough to make pro bowls, then they’ll pay you top dollar. It’s been that way for awhile. Dak’s deal is par for the course
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Being the 6th or 7th alternate is not making the pro bowl IMHO. Making stupid deals is not what good GMs do ( how many of those GM's are still with that team) , the bad ones do deals like Daks. These type of deals cost all the other players money because Dak isn't going to carry this team on his talent. Either way doesn't matter as the die is stuck and the Cowboys are stuck with Dak for at least 4 years sad as that may be.
 
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Brax said:
The market doesn't over pay for good QB's and Dak's pay day is a gross overpayment for his return so far.
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The market does overpay for very young starting QBs getting paid these days for their 2nd deal. Mahomes is the only one of the young starters these days who has done anything. DeShaun Watson hasn’t won a playoff game and has a losing record as a QB. He got market value,. They all do. Always have.

Again, I’m not saying that’s right. I am saying it’s consistent with what the NFL does with starting QBs.
 
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So are very young starting QB getting paid these days for their 2nd deal. Mahomes is the only one of the young starters these days who has done anything. DeShaun Watson hasn’t won a playoff game and has a losing record as a QB. He got market value,. They all do. Always have.

Again, I’m not saying that’s right. I am saying it’s consistent with what the NFL does with starting QBs.
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Again bad GM who overpaid and the team suffered. Sorry unless a QB is elite generational you don't break the bank, I agree with what you say but big mistake as is par for the coarse with a Jerry move.
 
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