They really had little choice at QB

CouchCoach · Mar 9, 2021

This wasn't a case of player greed or the owner cratering, it was just a simple fact that the QB had all the leverage, as the owner stated.

The QB is THE position in Dallas but even more so with how the owner has built his team. There were 6 1st round picks on the offense when Yosemite was there and Collins would have been and two 1st round WR's on this last one.

And a 4th round QB making it all run. The most important piece, the lowest pick of them all.

What do you think they could have done? Trade away the future for Wilson? Take a chance on a rookie QB, the highest risk position in the draft?

Dak Prescott had the leverage because he created it and not at the negotiating table. He beat the odds becoming the DC QB1 as a 4th round, 3rd choice, QB. He blossomed as a rookie and began to gather fans immediately. His style of play, no quit, and his leadership adding even more fans. Then he has the audacity to get injured on the tag, the horror of all horrors for the tag, and carted off the field in front of however many home fans were there. He certainly didn't lose any fans when they saw him dejectedly sitting on that cart as his teammates swarmed around him.

Half the Cowboys offense is 1st round picks and the GM is a follow the ball GM because he's about the entertainment value first and I cannot say that is wrong, that's what built his business to be valued at 5.7B and that's what the fans flock to see.

This is one I will not fault them on because I do not feel that had any choice but to pay whatever necessary to keep the band together and the fan's favorite in front of the fans.

Do any of us really think Booger could even consider seeing his find in the 4th round in any other team's uniform? That is a pill he was never going to swallow.

Be angry, be sad but believe they really never had a choice as long as he could play.

Jake · Mar 9, 2021

This was always going to be the outcome. Some fans projected their own feelings on Jerry and convinced themselves that he agreed with them. That was never the case. He was always going to pay Dak.

The dumbest part about paying him was waiting so long. Should've done it 2 years ago and told Zeke to have fun in Cabo for the next 2 years. Zeke only had the leverage Jerry was willing to give him, and in the meantime QB prices continued to escalate.

But then they also threw a new contract at Jaylon because why not, I guess. It's as if this front office has no plan. They just react to what is in front of them at the time. It's probably why they've had so much success the last 25 years.

JoeKing · Mar 9, 2021

If you're not a Dak fan then I don't blame you for being upset about this new signing. They did have other options, not all were as good as others but they did have other options. They could have gone with Andy Dalton and a much cheaper contract while they hunt for their next QB superstar.

JoeKing · Mar 9, 2021

Jake said:
This was always going to be the outcome.

I'm not buying that.

BigStar · Mar 9, 2021

JJ needs a QB to keep this team relevant and 8-8 is relevant enough in this division. That's really more of the problem, they think they're done.

Jake · Mar 9, 2021

JoeKing said:
I'm not buying that.

Who cares what you're buying? There's zero evidence to refute what I said.

CWR · Mar 9, 2021

CouchCoach said:
This wasn't a case of player greed or the owner cratering, it was just a simple fact that the QB had all the leverage, as the owner stated.

The QB is THE position in Dallas but even more so with how the owner has built his team. There were 6 1st round picks on the offense when Yosemite was there and Collins would have been and two 1st round WR's on this last one.

And a 4th round QB making it all run. The most important piece, the lowest pick of them all.

What do you think they could have done? Trade away the future for Wilson? Take a chance on a rookie QB, the highest risk position in the draft?

Dak Prescott had the leverage because he created it and not at the negotiating table. He beat the odds becoming the DC QB1 as a 4th round, 3rd choice, QB. He blossomed as a rookie and began to gather fans immediately. His style of play, no quit, and his leadership adding even more fans. Then he has the audacity to get injured on the tag, the horror of all horrors for the tag, and carted off the field in front of however many home fans were there. He certainly didn't lose any fans when they saw him dejectedly sitting on that cart as his teammates swarmed around him.

Half the Cowboys offense is 1st round picks and the GM is a follow the ball GM because he's about the entertainment value first and I cannot say that is wrong, that's what built his business to be valued at 5.7B and that's what the fans flock to see.

This is one I will not fault them on because I do not feel that had any choice but to pay whatever necessary to keep the band together and the fan's favorite in front of the fans.

Do any of us really think Booger could even consider seeing his find in the 4th round in any other team's uniform? That is a pill he was never going to swallow.

Be angry, be sad but believe they really never had a choice as long as he could play.

The moment we let Dak walk we begin the rebuild.

It would've been a huge waste of offensive talent.

We have a top 5 offense for the next few seasons.

The rest of our resources need to go towards defense. If we are lucky we will hit on a few.

Then we can compete. No front office would've thrown that opportunity away, despite what the "experts" here like to pretend.

CATCH17 · Mar 9, 2021

They allowed him to have leverage. IT's on them and they are the morons.

They didn't have to participate but they allowed all of this to happen and now Dak just Chris Boniol'd the team right in the crotch.

Swagger · Mar 9, 2021

This does look to be a potentially strong QB class so it would have been a good year to have a pop given we have a top 10 pick. Not saying that it would have definitely worked out but in my view, this is a good year to have a top 10 pick in the draft should a team want/need a QB.

Risen Star · Mar 9, 2021

Just had to do it.

Thinking you can replace Dak Prescott is beyond the realm of any realistic possibility.

JohnnyHopkins · Mar 9, 2021

They needed a placeholder until DiNucci was ready for his 40 million.

CWR · Mar 9, 2021

Jake said:
This was always going to be the outcome. Some fans projected their own feelings on Jerry and convinced themselves that he agreed with them. That was never the case. He was always going to pay Dak.

The dumbest part about paying him was waiting so long. Should've done it 2 years ago and told Zeke to have fun in Cabo for the next 2 years. Zeke only had the leverage Jerry was willing to give him, and in the meantime QB prices continued to escalate.

But then they also threw a new contract at Jaylon because why not, I guess. It's as if this front office has no plan. They just react to what is in front of them at the time. It's probably why they've had so much success the last 25 years.

Funny how timing works on these contracts. Yeah if we paid him 2 years ago he'd be cheaper, but then he'd be eligible for another contract 2 years sooner.

The only way to really get the timing right is to predict the decline and stop paying at that point. Otherwise there's always a bigger payday around the corner.

9darter · Mar 9, 2021

Stockholm Syndrome to the rescue, as expected.

glimmerman · Mar 9, 2021

I think they wanted him all along. They got the structure agreed to last year. Just the money had to be worked out. He wanted the big signing bonus and 4 years. He got it. The average was in line. When ever the next starting QB comes up they will get get slightly more. They have there QB. Now fix the Defense.

rnr_honeybadger · Mar 9, 2021

That Jerry caved does not surprise me

That Jerry overpaid does not surprise me either

I was merely hoping that a guy who at his core is a businessman would understand an over inflated market, but I suppose I should have known that Jerry would be Jerry.

Future · Mar 9, 2021

Idk why everyone complains about Dak having all the leverage, it's not like he got overpaid and it's not like the number went up from last year.

The thought that they could have signed him for ~$30m is delusional and the difference between $35-$40 is pointless. This is always where we were going to end up, going back before the tag last year.

5 years, $195m, $157 guaranteed.

sean10mm · Mar 9, 2021

If you sincerely wanted Dak all along, the smart play is to sign him as soon as possible for as long as practical. The way QB contract inflation is going you can "set the market" at the start and have a bargain 2 years into it. You get the goodwill of being "player friendly management" while cushioning the cash blow long term. The probably want an even bigger contract after that, sure, but you can burn that bridge when you get there.

If you don't think Dak is the real deal, or is just not worth elite money, you keep him as long as he's cheap and move him for picks as soon as he represents a long-term cap drag unless he plays at a discount.

The Cowboys somehow combined the worst elements of both ideas.

CouchCoach · Mar 9, 2021

rnr_honeybadger said:
That Jerry caved does not surprise me

That Jerry overpaid does not surprise me either

I was merely hoping that a guy who at his core is a businessman would understand an over inflated market, but I suppose I should have known that Jerry would be Jerry.

He has to have a Center Ring act and there was not one as good as Prescott and coming back after that fall? Priceless to Booger. And I don't fault him for that, that's how he thinks. How was he going to promote the 5th QB taken in this draft or Andy Dalton?

The saying "Go Big or Go Home" fits Booger and this was all, about that. He loves making headlines with these deals just like he did with The Star, the Boogie Bus, the stadium and his boat.

Taking a QB in this draft to replace Prescott was as much as admitting to a rebuild and he will never willingly do that. He cannot market or promote a rebuild.

JoeKing · Mar 9, 2021

Jake said:
Who cares what you're buying? There's zero evidence to refute what I said.

Sure there is. Other options were available. That's just a fact. How do you not know this. Just because this was the door they chose to go through doesn't mean it was the only one.

BigStar · Mar 9, 2021

CouchCoach said:
He has to have a Center Ring act and there was not one as good as Prescott and coming back after that fall? Priceless to Booger. And I don't fault him for that, that's how he thinks. How was he going to promote the 5th QB taken in this draft or Andy Dalton?

The saying "Go Big or Go Home" fits Booger and this was all, about that. He loves making headlines with these deals just like he did with The Star, the Boogie Bus, the stadium and his boat.

Taking a QB in this draft to replace Prescott was as much as admitting to a rebuild and he will never willingly do that. He cannot market or promote a rebuild.

This is where if we had the #3 pick I could see the team/fanbase rallying around a new QB. That was out of reach, but a Fields/Wilson pick would make fans ready or accept moving on.

We may have gotten Dak for cheaper if he knew that was also a possibility. Those wins really didn't do much for us at all. It was an aberration, we were missing our QB, that's when you do want to tank as you're not going anywhere anyhow until the next season. Get something out of it!

They really had little choice at QB

CouchCoach

Jake

Beyond tired of Jerry

JoeKing

Diehard

JoeKing

Diehard

BigStar

Stop chasing

Jake

Beyond tired of Jerry

CWR

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CATCH17

1st Round Pick

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Risen Star

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JohnnyHopkins

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CWR

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rnr_honeybadger

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Future

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CouchCoach

JoeKing

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BigStar

Stop chasing