Why do so many Cowboys fans make better decisions than the Cowboys front office?

INCowboysFan said:

I've been over Romo for a long time now, thanks. Zeke was picked for Romo to try and keep the window open. I thought Romo gave us the best chance to win in the playoffs in 2016, but he didn't get the opportunity and then retired. I've been on board with Dak ever since.

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not sure it matters why. It was the wrong pick.

Rockport said:

Yeah, I stand by that.

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I guess we should give you credit for owning your own ridiculousness here.

Sydla said:

I guess we should give you credit for owning your own ridiculousness here.

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Sure if that’s how you feel about it.

lk8701 said:

Ramsey over Zeke and TJ Watt over Taco are the 2 most recent draft decisions that come to mind. Obviously there were many fans who supported/justified the Cowboys selections of Zeke and Taco. However, there were an equal number of Cowboys fans who were clamoring for Ramsey and Watt. It's sickening thinking about how much better the Cowboys would be with Ramsey and Watt.

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The level of self important hubris and narcissism in this thread is outstanding.

Trendnet said:

The level of self important hubris and narcissism in this thread is outstanding.

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LOL. Is that you Stephen Jones? Maybe John Stephen Jones?

lk8701 said:

Ramsey over Zeke and TJ Watt over Taco are the 2 most recent draft decisions that come to mind. Obviously there were many fans who supported/justified the Cowboys selections of Zeke and Taco. However, there were an equal number of Cowboys fans who were clamoring for Ramsey and Watt. It's sickening thinking about how much better the Cowboys would be with Ramsey and Watt.

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I want a statue to honor Rowdy and a big cake for the visiting team!

Most fans aren't as stubborn as Jerry is.

lk8701 said:

Ramsey over Zeke and TJ Watt over Taco are the 2 most recent draft decisions that come to mind. Obviously there were many fans who supported/justified the Cowboys selections of Zeke and Taco. However, there were an equal number of Cowboys fans who were clamoring for Ramsey and Watt. It's sickening thinking about how much better the Cowboys would be with Ramsey and Watt.

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Alot of fans also make some pretty awful calls too lol

charron said:

There are no consequences if were wrong. They want to be right as much as they can and they will overpay to prove it. It's about selling tickets in the end. Were better today cause we signed the same QB who went 8-8 in his last full season and was sub .500 to start the 2020 season. But they sell this crap to guillable fans every single year. They'll draft well on paper, sell it to fill seats and watch this team struggle to win 8 games and be happy about it. Their formula is less about winning than it is about printing money.

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Bingo!! YOu nailed it!
Jerry is a business man and its all about marketing a mediocre team as a SB contender. The Cowboys are the most over rated team in the NFL.

CowboyRoy said:

not sure it matters why. It was the wrong pick.

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In your opinion it was the wrong pick. Who's to say that Ramsey wouldn't have demanded a trade from here like he did in Jax. Would he still have been the right pick if he forced his way out of here after 3 years?

lk8701 said:

Ramsey over Zeke and TJ Watt over Taco are the 2 most recent draft decisions that come to mind. Obviously there were many fans who supported/justified the Cowboys selections of Zeke and Taco. However, there were an equal number of Cowboys fans who were clamoring for Ramsey and Watt. It's sickening thinking about how much better the Cowboys would be with Ramsey and Watt.

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Maybe because millions of fans and all possibilities of their decisions could outweigh one person (Jerry Jones)?

1. Fans do not have all the information the front office has. No fan nor journalist sees the entire package.
2. Fans mostly operate on a 20\20 hindsight.
3. When fans get it wrong, it is not in the press in three inch letters. Only a few other fans call them out.
4. The goals of the fans seldom, if ever, align with the front office

Fans are arrogant and normally are behind their pet cats. When a player makes a mistake, there will be some fans pointing it out as if it is a microcosm of the entire play by this player. It's not. Just watching this board and how most everyone straddles a fence without any impunity should tell you fans couldn't find their bung hole with a map, a yellow brick road, and a tour guide.

The hubris in this thread reminds me of the fable of the seven blind men and the elephant.

A group of blind men heard that a strange animal, called an elephant, had been brought to the town, but none of them were aware of its shape and form. Out of curiosity, they said: "We must inspect and know it by touch, of which we are capable". So, they sought it out, and when they found it they groped about it. The first person, whose hand landed on the trunk, said, "This being is like a thick snake". For another one whose hand reached its ear, it seemed like a kind of fan. As for another person, whose hand was upon its leg, said, the elephant is a pillar like a tree-trunk. The blind man who placed his hand upon its side said the elephant, "is a wall". Another who felt its tail, described it as a rope. The last felt its tusk, stating the elephant is that which is hard, smooth and like a spear.

I may start a franchise for bamboo canes.

Broken clock is right twice a day. The honest answer is, we don't.

If fans had their say we wouldn't have Zach Martin or had drafted Travis Fredrick. We'd also have gotten the trade up for Paxton Lynch. We miss quite a bit. It's just we don't lament on our misses like we do the times we are right.

I remember almost crying when I saw us trade up with the Rams for Morris Claiborne. I was hoping we were moving up for Fletcher Cox and then he goes to the freaking Eagles. I was very upset that night.

thunderpimp91 said:

Yeah but you also have to be fair and look at all the unpopular moves that went in the front offices way.

Very few were fans of picking Travis Frederick I’m the first. Everyone wanted to cut randy gregory. Even picking dak a few years back was a head scratcher for many. At that time he was a mid round talent who probably was a career backup with off field issues.

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I was very happy with not picking Johnny Manziel in 2014. All of my friends, who hate Dallas btw, just knew we would pick him. I won plenty of bread from the selection of Zach Martin at #16.

Future said:

Wade Wilson was.

But again, that's not my point. My point is that the idea of fans making better decisions is stupid because it's easy to do with revisionist history, and it basically ends after the first round.

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Obviously, Wade Wilson didn't make personnel decision for the Cowboys, so that's totally irrelevant.

The relevant picks in question - TJ Watt over Taco and Jalen Ramsey over Zeke - aren't revisionist history for much of the Cowboys' fanbase. Certainly not for me. I was screaming at the TV on draft night for the Cowboys to draft Watt and Ramsey before the picks were turned it in. I got the receipts too.

This simply reinforces what statisticians have already shown - the draft is a total crapshoot, and the optimal strategy is to acquire more lottery tickets in the hopes of hitting. Pro teams aren't any better at this than fans. In fact, I think some might be worse.

We could have had Ramsey, Myles Jack, and TJ Watt. And there's nothing revised about this, I and a few others said Ramsey would be a better pick over Zeke, heck, I would have chose Tunsil over Zeke.

I won't be surprised if a player comes into their own that makes us regret the Lamb pick eventually. I'm just not a fan of choosing RBs and WRs in the first round anymore unless they look to be generational talents.

Aven8 said:

I can personally guarantee a lot of posters think, crap, and eat football 24/7 around here. Jerry doesn’t do that. Now if one of us were to say, “hey Jerry why aren’t you promoting more, or acquisition of Sponsors etc”....Jerry could school all of us.

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Yep. It's Jerry putting too much on his plate when he really doesn't need to, he's a great businessman and maybe one of the best in the US. It's sad that he can't be satisfied with just that.

Dunning-Kruger