News: ITS: No Surprise Here, Florida Tight End Kyle Pitts Having a Fantastic Pro Day

SeanLee50 said:

No brainer if he gets to 10. Nobody could stop us going 4-5 wide

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We were scoring 37 points a game last year before Dak got hurt and we went 1-3. Dak threw for 500 yards and 4 TD's one game and we lost.

CowboyRoy said:

Can he even block?

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Yes. He blocks quite well

CowboyRoy said:

We were scoring 37 points a game last year before Dak got hurt and we went 1-3. Dak threw for 500 yards and 4 TD's one game and we lost.

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Right. With Nolan at coordinator and Darian Thompson / Xavier Woods at safety. Throw in a sluggish Poe and Worley as well.

CowboyRoy said:

We were scoring 37 points a game last year before Dak got hurt and we went 1-3. Dak threw for 500 yards and 4 TD's one game and we lost.

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That's because we were playing the Keystone Kops defense.. One assumes that we won't see a repeat of that putrid performance this year. Nolan simply tried to do too much. If he had started out with the simple approach he took down the second half stretch the defense would have been at least serviceable and the Cowboys would have started out 3-1 before Dak went down. In fact I don't think Dak would have gone down at all because the defense would have been good enough that the Cowboys likely would have been up 20 on the Giants by the middle of the third quarter and he would not have been out there running in the first place. He would have been handing off to Zeke trying to shorten the game.

Please do not draft a tight end. I will puke. Defense must improve.

DoctorChicken said:

I'd love to find a way to take Pitts at 10, trade Gallup, 2nd this year and a 1st next year to jump back into the first and get one of the CB prospects we like, or Moehrig, or another one of the defenses pieces we need.

I can dream, can't I?

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You take pitts and you almost have to get rid of Cooper and his 21M a year salary and use it on defense. Gallup would be a luxury. I would trade both of them and get what you can.

CowboyRoy said:

You take pitts and you almost have to get rid of Cooper and his 21M a year salary and use it on defense. Gallup would be a luxury. I would trade both of them and get what you can.

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You wouldn't trade Amari, you could restructure him and trade about 5 other guys including Gallup for defensive players or draft capital. Worry about those problems AFTER a generational type player falls to you. Probably won't happen anyways but the problems could be solved after. NO ONE in this draft on Defense is worth a top 10 pick anyways, not one guy.

I could see a trade down to garner more picks if there isn't a no miss player at 10.

RonnieT24 said:

That's because we were playing the Keystone Kops defense.. One assumes that we won't see a repeat of that putrid performance this year. Nolan simply tried to do too much. If he had started out with the simple approach he took down the second half stretch the defense would have been at least serviceable and the Cowboys would have started out 3-1 before Dak went down. In fact I don't think Dak would have gone down at all because the defense would have been good enough that the Cowboys likely would have been up 20 on the Giants by the middle of the third quarter and he would not have been out there running in the first place. He would have been handing off to Zeke trying to shorten the game.

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Keystone Kops you say? I know many trolls like to proclaim that, but its not the case. We played the #1 defense in the NFL in the Rams in week 1, we played a middle of the road defense in the Browns and 3 playoff teams in all. Seattle and Atlanta were bad, but its a wide spectrum sample size.

stiletto said:

You wouldn't trade Amari, you could restructure him and trade about 5 other guys including Gallup for defensive players or draft capital. Worry about those problems AFTER a generational type player falls to you. Probably won't happen anyways but the problems could be solved after. NO ONE in this draft on Defense is worth a top 10 pick anyways, not one guy.

I could see a trade down to garner more picks if there isn't a no miss player at 10.

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I dont agree. I just think there are offensive players rated higher. Doesnt mean someone like Parsons or Surtain arent worthy of a top pick.

And besides, there's always the trade down option which would be amazing. If Pitts is there at 10, I bet there are some teams willing to give a nice 2nd rounder to move up. Ill take that all day long.

CowboyRoy said:

I dont agree. I just think there are offensive players rated higher. Doesnt mean someone like Parsons or Surtain arent worthy of a top pick.

And besides, there's always the trade down option which would be amazing. If Pitts is there at 10, I bet there are some teams willing to give a nice 2nd rounder to move up. Ill take that all day long.

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Parson's is a worse Jaylon, low instincts terrible in coverage. Surtain they say MIGHT be as good as Diggs was coming out last year. Would you really want to 10 years from now, say..."yeah that Pitts guy, first ballot HoF'er"... My CB, yeah he played ok for a few years.... LOL. Give me the future HoF'er all day (if that's what your board says). This defense isn't getting fixed in one year anyways...

SeanLee50 said:

Yes. He blocks quite well



Right. With Nolan at coordinator and Darian Thompson / Xavier Woods at safety. Throw in a sluggish Poe and Worley as well.

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He does NOT block well. He catches the ball well. In reality, he is a tall WR. We take Pitts and we are essentially taking two WR's back to back years in the first.

THAT being said, I will still probably smile if we take him. Then I will curse the pick when our defense is making guys like Trubinsky and Darnold look like Tom Brady.

stiletto said:

Parson's is a worse Jaylon, low instincts terrible in coverage. Surtain they say MIGHT be as good as Diggs was coming out last year. Would you really want to 10 years from now, say..."yeah that Pitts guy, first ballot HoF'er"... My CB, yeah he played ok for a few years.... LOL. Give me the future HoF'er all day (if that's what your board says). This defense isn't getting fixed in one year anyways...

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Right..........everyone else sucks, and Pitts is a HOFer for sure right?

TE is the most bust position in football other than QB.

There is no chance in hell that Parsons is worse than Jaylon. Jaylon is horrible.

Take Pitts all you want, but its just for Shites and Giggles. This team isnt going anywhere until they get a quality defense. We have 15 years of evidence to back that up from Romo do Dak.

CowboyRoy said:

Right..........everyone else sucks, and Pitts is a HOFer for sure right?

TE is the most bust position in football other than QB.

There is no chance in hell that Parsons is worse than Jaylon. Jaylon is horrible.

Take Pitts all you want, but its just for Shites and Giggles. This team isnt going anywhere until they get a quality defense. We have 15 years of evidence to back that up from Romo do Dak.

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It's a poor top talent Defensive draft. Total crapshoot if you pick D. Parson's has a very similar scouting report to Jaylon's except he has more character issues than Jaylon had (hard to believe). He has trouble locating the ball, is over aggressive, takes terrible angles, only played 1 full season at LB I think. Explosive player but certainly not a "can't miss". Surtain could be a Good corner, but he's kind of slow. A lot of people are saying he is a Dre Kirkpatrick or Marlon Humphrey type player. I mean that's good but certainly not blow you away type talent.

A lot of the offensive players this year are as close to blue-chippers as you get. Sewell, Slater, Pitts, etc...if one of those falls you take them..then who cares.. use every pick left on Defense. Doesn't matter because any defensive player you pick is going to be a total guess this year. It will be interesting to see how it shakes out.

stiletto said:

It's a poor top talent Defensive draft. Total crapshoot if you pick D. Parson's has a very similar scouting report to Jaylon's except he has more character issues than Jaylon had (hard to believe). He has trouble locating the ball, is over aggressive, takes terrible angles, only played 1 full season at LB I think. Explosive player but certainly not a "can't miss". Surtain could be a Good corner, but he's kind of slow. A lot of people are saying he is a Dre Kirkpatrick or Marlon Humphrey type player. I mean that's good but certainly not blow you away type talent.

A lot of the offensive players this year are as close to blue-chippers as you get. Sewell, Slater, Pitts, etc...if one of those falls you take them..then who cares.. use every pick left on Defense. Doesn't matter because any defensive player you pick is going to be a total guess this year. It will be interesting to see how it shakes out.

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Jaylon was seriously hurt and has little instinct, toughness, or heart. Parsons was constantly shooting the gaps and getting into the backfield. Jaylon basically sits 7 yards down the field and waits for the play to come to him, if it ever does.

I would actually be more for taking a LT than Pitts. LT is a prime position on a football team that will be here for 10 years and it does represent a position of need.

CowboyRoy said:

Jaylon was seriously hurt and has little instinct, toughness, or heart. Parsons was constantly shooting the gaps and getting into the backfield. Jaylon basically sits 7 yards down the field and waits for the play to come to him, if it ever does.

I would actually be more for taking a LT than Pitts. LT is a prime position on a football team that will be here for 10 years and it does represent a position of need.

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The point's probably moot anyways. I'd be shocked if Pitts or either LT fell to us. With the Eagles trading out just never know now. Everyone is trying to improve their QB situation. Thankfully that is not a worry for the Cowboys for awhile.

Where's that Batman meme where he's slapping Robin? We need defense.

CowboyRoy said:

He does NOT block well. He catches the ball well. In reality, he is a tall WR. We take Pitts and we are essentially taking two WR's back to back years in the first.

THAT being said, I will still probably smile if we take him. Then I will curse the pick when our defense is making guys like Trubinsky and Darnold look like Tom Brady.

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Actually, it's been reported he's a good blocker.

foofighters said:

Where's that Batman meme where he's slapping Robin? We need defense.

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Pitts is not lasting until pick # 10 its all good.

cavemanct said:

Please do not draft a tight end. I will puke. Defense must improve.

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We all agree the defense must improve.

But you can get about the same guy at 44 that you can get at 10. Why would you force a pick at 10?

Again, we did this in 1998. We took Greg Ellis (a good player) over Randy Moss (a great player). It cursed us for decades to take a player at a need position over the best talent available.

If you can take a special player....especially in the top 10...you do it. Regardless of need.

foofighters said:

Where's that Batman meme where he's slapping Robin? We need defense.

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Bizwah said:

We all agree the defense must improve.

But you can get about the same guy at 44 that you can get at 10. Why would you force a pick at 10?

Again, we did this in 1998. We took Greg Ellis (a good player) over Randy Moss (a great player). It cursed us for decades to take a player at a need position over the best talent available.

If you can take a special player....especially in the top 10...you do it. Regardless of need.

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your memory must be blurred, we would have taken Moss in heartbeat this wasn't a reach for Ellis over Moss, Moss had some off field issues and with Irvin and all the whilte house issues that were still fresh, Jerry decided to pass on Moss over off field issues not offense over defense..

lets keep that straight. Was it mistake, yes but understandable.

a more recent pass on defense over offense was Zeke over Ramsey i still say in the draft day it was not a mistake, but in hindsight its easy to debate because of where our defense is..although odd Jags let him go so theres that..

i realize all is saying if pitts is there, he wont be, thats great, easier decsions.. if its matter of reach, you trade down get more picks still stay with defense i Surtain, Horn, or whatever the coaches feel is their #1 Target and hes still can be had few spots down..

now if for some ridiculous craziness that pitts is there i guess take him or trade that spot for a fortune..

second scenario take him but immediately try and deal Gallup , we just dont have that many balls to go around and losing Gallup for nothing would be a travesty try and get 2nd or thirds for him while still in this draft and pick up more defenders by packaging some lower pics to move up..