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same respect back at you. I don't mind exchange of ideas, being open and discuss in a friendly manner. differeing opinions are what they are...although some on either side of this debate tend to be more emotional about their views than necessary.I remember our previous discussions and the respect you showed of my opinion and now it shows through again and I appreciate it.
My concern is accomplishing the end game based on money spent.
By that I mean if a team can accomplish the same wins and losses with a QB on a first contract or a journeyman or game manager type at a fraction of the cost, then what is the basis for paying a guy much more when you know he does not possess the talent to overcome the team defensive deficiencies?
Can Cam or Jameis at 10 million per not accomplish the same 7 to 9 wins that this team ultimately has and always ends up achieving regardless of year, coach or defense?
Are Daks numbers against good teams in contrast to against bad such a quantum physics question as to not see that there are serious struggles against .500 and above opponents?
I've got another guy now talking his Jones version of relevance and how long a rebuild would take if using a first contract kid or recently released former starter.
My only good answer is to somehow try and recapture the OL dominance and offensive philosophy of 2016. It's the only formula I've seen with at least a level of noticeable "regular season" success.
The problem is that Zeke no longer exists. That oline no longer exists.
I do not have blind faith in Smith's and Collins full recoveries and return to former form from surgery lasting a full year.
I like the 2016 model. It's the same as what Tennessee is doing with Tannehill and Henry.
I do not have to mention defense to you because I share all of your exact opinions on this team's inability to field an effective defensive roster.
I just believe a smash mouth TOP heavy offense that keeps the personnel lacking defense off the field is the best overall path to success for this team.
I do not believe this QB has all of a sudden morphed into a Big 12 high volume pass happy guy compared to what he was as that 2016 efficient game manager who took his shots but relied on his oline and running game.
I don't see myself being convinced otherwise either.
My difference is based entirely on how the end game is arrived at. And if I can save a hundred million dollars and continue to draft and develop HOF level 1st rd olinemen, there is a very miniscule fighters chance at success.
If 1st round o linemen begin to not be drafted and developed, the current downward trajectory of this team will continue imo.
Because as you and I have agreed, they just do not know how to draft and develop a defensive roster. Until this scouting or coaching mystery can be figured out there is no reason to pay elite prices for mediocre overall team success, ie wins.
also, you can't look at Dak's numbers against good teams in a vaccum which is what a lot of people who don't want dak do. how does he compare to the rest of the league and other QBs. people mentioned his record against winning teams, yet, there are three QBs that have winning record against winning teams, Brady wilson and Mahomes. so any of these stats in a vaccum is meaningless. it has to be compared to the rest of the league. and again, I don't blame dak for wins and losses. I think he gives us the best chance to win, allow the offense to be better and give the team a chance.
most NFL games go into the 4th quarter within a score or so.....and those who manage the game well have a chance in the end to win it....I don't think our previous coaching staff and to an extent the current staff has done a very good job of that.
so I go back to what you said before and here in the begining, its about managing the cap. and its been proven over and over that its the easiest path to a superbow if you have a franchise QB. its hard to do it in the first 5 years, unless you hit on the right one. everyone wants to point to Mahomes and wining it in his first contract, but facts are 4 out of 5 first round QBs fail and are average in the NFL, more of them in 2nd round and lower. so just like any other investment, its about where you invest how much to get returns you want.
is it possible to win it with Winston and get to 7-9? I say no. Tampa had a good defense, it was Winston that held them back. Winston in Dallas would translate to 4-12. same with Cam at this stage of his career. NE defense lacked last year, and even with the great Bilicheck (he is a huge factor), they didn't do so well. so simply put, no, it can't be done with average QBs, unless you have an all time defense like the ravens, that keeps the other team at about 14 points average.
now, similar to your comment about winning with a QB on his rookie contract, same can be said about defensive players. all FAs worth anything are going to be over paid by a few million. the rest are injury prone, older, head cases, so I am totally against building a defense through FA, even if we had a minimum salary QB. because with a below average QB like Dalton, Winston or Cam you need a great defense to compensate, and to have a great defense you need several high level highly paid player and they all will be over paid and its not enough cap room to do. you can find the right mid level FAs but then you end up with an average defense.....so back to square one.
and it was obvious last year, once Dak went down, zeke suffered. teams simplified their defense and loaded to stop running game putting the game in Dalton's hand knowing he was not able to get it done.
our problem has been we don't draft well defensively. I have been saying that for several months now. 15 years. 43 picks. we only have one impact player of Note, namely Lawrence. if we don't draft well defensively, it doesn't matter how much cap room we get, there isn't enough top end FAs that can help this defense.....we need to find some good impact defensive players in draft, and use them to have a good defense for the nextg 4,5 years to have a chance at making a run.