Proposed rule changes for 2021

Jake said:

Networks?

Have you seen how Americans react to a tie? It's the greatest calamity of the weekend. That's why we have goofy OT rules in the regular season of all sports, just to manufacture a winner.

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The reason OT rules have changed over the years is the networks were complaining that playing multiple OT periods was forcing them to push back the start of their regular programing. When all games played until there was a winner and they went into OT, the networks originally started their regular scheduled shows and when the game ended the network would announce we will now join whatever show it was already in progress. People complained about that and the networks then just pushed back the start of those shows after the game had a winner,. Well just a couple years ago the networks told the NFL that OT was still taking to long so the league dropped OT from a 15 minutes period to just a 10 minutes. The NFL knows they can't exist without the networks so they do what the networks tell they they have to do.

There are fans that get upset when their team doesn't take big risks at the end of a tie game to win and watch their team being conservative playing not to lose in the last minutes and hope for a win in OT, but I'm not aware of any major portion of the fans that think OT is a calamity. You may thinks so, but like I said there hasn't been any huge continual outrage by fans saying it's a calamity.
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Flamma said:

I wouldn't even give them any credit for that rule change. It was a correction of a horrible rule they themselves created.

They destroy the kickoff, and with it the onside kick. So what do they do? Propose a gimmick.

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If you're referring to having to have a set number of players on both sides of the kicker on kickoffs I agree that's a stupid dumb rule that hurts the possibility for onside kickoffs.
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gjkoeppen said:

If you're referring to having to have a set number of players on both sides of the kicker on kickoffs I agree that's a stupid dumb rule that hurts the possibility for onside kickoffs.
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That's only part of the reason. Now allowing running starts before the ball is kicked is the major reason. In fact, that's the only thing that rule has any effect on. As if it was put in to eliminate onside kicks. The only other thing it does is delay the kickoff coverage team by about a second or two. But it has no impact on the play except for ruining onside kicks. It's not making them be at slower speeds.

MarcusRock said:

We get it. Everything new is bad. And get off my lawn while you're at it.

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I agree with the OP, every rule change IS bad. Players are prima donnas now, used to be only the strongest and toughest survived, not some goat in a skirt.
And yes, I had to run a guy out of my yard just a couple weeks ago. He thought is was ok to walk his dog right up to my window to take a dump. Dude even told me if his dog wanted to go there he was not going to choke him to hold him back. It got ugly then, don't think he'll be back in my yard, heh.

BotchedLobotomy said:

Using a "sky judge" calling fouls based on his enhanced view of the game is just a bad idea. It would evolve into a plethora of ticky tack fouls being called.

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It might be ok if, and only if, it was used to overturn bad calls on the field.

Hey, let just change it so the team leading at the 2 minute warning wins regardless of what the other team does after that. Jeebus, only what, 1 in 100 offside kicks works and they are so concerned that it needs a rule change

BotchedLobotomy said:

Using a "sky judge" calling fouls based on his enhanced view of the game is just a bad idea. It would evolve into a plethora of ticky tack fouls being called.

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with the betting being involved all it takes is one official that is in debt to seriously screw things where lets use offensive holding which happens most plays and he starts calling them at crucial times.

MarcusRock said:

Hey man, I've been over this rule a million and one times with people. The ruling was correct as called back then by the rules in place. Most people just didn't understand the rule and dang sure didn't want to accept the results of it so they blame the refs, the league and whomever else they can get their hands on. Human nature if you look around.

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Well I counted no less than the steps with the ball in his control so then the turf cannot cause a fumble rules came into my mind. You can watch that as many times as you want, but it is what it is. I am ok with it, moved on.
I believe we need to keep human judgement in the game, and absolutely 100% without a doubt stop trying to digitally correct every error in football. Need to let them play the game.
Stop changing the rules basically. Stop trying to increase scoring, but rather let actual talent on the field dictate the score.
Seeing much much more offensive series extended due to penalties on opposing defenses, and if not, it is because defensive players have to second guess they're styles to accommodate the small tackle window they are allowed to hit on a offensive player.
Don't get me wrong, I still watch football, but don't enjoy it as much and today's football will never compare to when players really played the game. But I guess todays style of football kind of goes along with the times we live in and this new generation

BrassCowboy said:

Well I counted no less than the steps with the ball in his control so then the turf cannot cause a fumble rules came into my mind. You can watch that as many times as you want, but it is what it is. I am ok with it, moved on.
I believe we need to keep human judgement in the game, and absolutely 100% without a doubt stop trying to digitally correct every error in football. Need to let them play the game.
Stop changing the rules basically. Stop trying to increase scoring, but rather let actual talent on the field dictate the score.
Seeing much much more offensive series extended due to penalties on opposing defenses, and if not, it is because defensive players have to second guess they're styles to accommodate the small tackle window they are allowed to hit on a offensive player.
Don't get me wrong, I still watch football, but don't enjoy it as much and today's football will never compare to when players really played the game. But I guess todays style of football kind of goes along with the times we live in and this new generation

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And this is what I mean about your average fan not understanding the rule in place at the time. The number of steps Dez took was irrelevant back then. He could have pirouetted, waved at his mama, or done a 360 horizontally and it wouldn't have mattered. Once you were deemed going to the ground in the act of catching a pass, you had to not let the ball touch the ground and come loose. Is that what happened or no? Replay did its job there. Not liking the result doesn't change that. They changed the rule but the way you're advocating, they shouldn't have. Lol.

Fans believe human judgement should rule until a play that goes against them has replay show was the wrong judgement. Then it'll be "use the technology at your disposal." That's why the league should do what they believe is best and ignore the common fan just like players should. People will huff and puff about leaving but never will and just complain the whole way. The NFL knows its drama queen segment quite well already and proceeds accordingly.

MarcusRock said:

And this is what I mean about your average fan not understanding the rule in place at the time. The number of steps Dez took was irrelevant back then. He could have pirouetted, waved at his mama, or done a 360 horizontally and it wouldn't have mattered. Once you were deemed going to the ground in the act of catching a pass, you had to not let the ball touch the ground and come loose. Is that what happened or no? Replay did its job there. Not liking the result doesn't change that. They changed the rule but the way you're advocating, they shouldn't have. Lol.

Fans believe human judgement should rule until a play that goes against them has replay show was the wrong judgement. Then it'll be "use the technology at your disposal." That's why the league should do what they believe is best and ignore the common fan just like players should. People will huff and puff about leaving but never will and just complain the whole way. The NFL knows its drama queen segment quite well already and proceeds accordingly.

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Wow you must be fun to hang out with...

Listen you can pretend to know what the "average" fan will do because then you free yourself the burden of proving it. That's ok with me because personally couldnt care less what any other fan does as nothing you said changes the truth for me.
Have a good day

The 4th and 15 rule sounds good in theory until teams figure out they can just throw it deep and have a better chance of getting a PI call than actually converting. I like change but the NFL continually makes rules to favor the offense. And I think it's out of fear of the new generation of fans calling a 14-10 game in the 4th quarter too boring.

BrassCowboy said:

Wow you must be fun to hang out with...

Listen you can pretend to know what the "average" fan will do because then you free yourself the burden of proving it. That's ok with me because personally couldnt care less what any other fan does as nothing you said changes the truth for me.
Have a good day

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Hey, don't get in a tizzy. You point blank just proved my point in critiquing a rule you clearly didn't understand like most did and continue to do, and yell CONSPIRACY! to cover up the ignorance (willful or real).

And I don't pretend to know anything about what fans will do. Mine is an opinion based on human nature tendencies so it's simply more informed than "because I'm not enjoying the game as much, it means everyone else isn't either and will leave because I'm threatening to."

MarcusRock said:

Hey, don't get in a tizzy. You point blank just proved my point in critiquing a rule you clearly didn't understand like most did and continue to do, and yell CONSPIRACY! to cover up the ignorance (willful or real).

And I don't pretend to know anything about what fans will do. Mine is an opinion based on human nature tendencies so it's simply more informed than "because I'm not enjoying the game as much, it means everyone else isn't either and will leave because I'm threatening to."

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Sooooo what you are saying is I am wrong about the Dez call and I have an opinion difference than yours?
Ok I can live with that.

NFL needs to stop watering down the game with new rules

gjkoeppen said:

I sit corrected. I do think the catch change was good, but that's one in how many rule changes?
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Yeah .... Pretty much where I am at on this wagon.

I'm hereby proposing that we only change that rule about the catches!
Too many rules are what's making pro football a pain in the ***!

The only proposed change I would be okay with would be the elimination of overtime in preseason games. It's just preseason, so I don't care if there are some ties.