The Argument For Drafting a QB With the 10 Pick

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Playing devil's advocate, okay?

Please no insults and no references to my intelligence or lack thereof.....Nah, never mind!...Asking for mercy is just pouring gasoline on a fire.

Three times in the past 11 seasons the starting QB went down early in the season and it was all over, crash and burn. It would have been four seasons but a fourth round draft choice miraculously had one of the best rookie seasons in history, who expected that?

The Cowboys rolled out a slew of backups, mostly average quarterbacks when they were in their prime. Sometimes they were on one year contracts meaning that, even if they had a good showing, they were gone the following season.

Why not kill two birds with one stone? Draft a top tier QB, if the starter goes down, the rookie gets experience. He could be a legitimate starter the following season in which case the Cowboys trade one of them. Furthermore, when a player gets paid they seem to have the tendency to play soft that season. A legitimate talent backing him up could put a little fire to Dak's backside.

The rookie salary cap allows the Cowboys to draft a QB in the top ten, I think.

You could draft a productive non-QB player in the top ten but what difference would that make if Dak is injured again or if he performs poorly? Look at the value of good young quarterbacks these days. If the Cowboys cultivate a young QB while he serves as a quality backup, the Cowboys could end up with a trade reaping great value for their future.

Look at the history of the Cowboys successful seasons. Where there not two legitimate starters?....Lebaron/Meredith...Staubach/Morton....Staubach/White....Even Roger Staubach once revealed that a reason for his success was how hard he competed with Danny White, knowing how good his competition was. Jimmy Johnson drafted two QB's #1 overall in his first season, giving up the #1 overall pick in 1990 for taking Steve Walsh in the supplemental draft. Jimmy valued competition.

Ok....let 'er rip!
No guarantees that a top 10
Qb will
Playing devil's advocate, okay?

Please no insults and no references to my intelligence or lack thereof.....Nah, never mind!...Asking for mercy is just pouring gasoline on a fire.

Three times in the past 11 seasons the starting QB went down early in the season and it was all over, crash and burn. It would have been four seasons but a fourth round draft choice miraculously had one of the best rookie seasons in history, who expected that?

The Cowboys rolled out a slew of backups, mostly average quarterbacks when they were in their prime. Sometimes they were on one year contracts meaning that, even if they had a good showing, they were gone the following season.

Why not kill two birds with one stone? Draft a top tier QB, if the starter goes down, the rookie gets experience. He could be a legitimate starter the following season in which case the Cowboys trade one of them. Furthermore, when a player gets paid they seem to have the tendency to play soft that season. A legitimate talent backing him up could put a little fire to Dak's backside.

The rookie salary cap allows the Cowboys to draft a QB in the top ten, I think.

You could draft a productive non-QB player in the top ten but what difference would that make if Dak is injured again or if he performs poorly? Look at the value of good young quarterbacks these days. If the Cowboys cultivate a young QB while he serves as a quality backup, the Cowboys could end up with a trade reaping great value for their future.

Look at the history of the Cowboys successful seasons. Where there not two legitimate starters?....Lebaron/Meredith...Staubach/Morton....Staubach/White....Even Roger Staubach once revealed that a reason for his success was how hard he competed with Danny White, knowing how good his competition was. Jimmy Johnson drafted two QB's #1 overall in his first season, giving up the #1 overall pick in 1990 for taking Steve Walsh in the supplemental draft. Jimmy valued competition.

Ok....let 'er rip!
No guarantees that a top 10 qb would be any good.
Hard pass
 

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What are you people doing? There IS NO argument for drafting a QB at #10. Don’t show your ignorance in arguing that there is.
 

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My question is in the seasons that our starting QB didn't get hurt how did we do?
 

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Dallas is stuck with Dak for at least 3 seasons.

Dak can’t be tagged, so the 4th would be his last with us.

https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/dallas-cowboys/dak-prescott-19089/
Dak can ask for a trade if he loses his starting job.

Look, I'm a huge Dak fan. However, I'm an even bigger Cowboy fan. If we get a better QB then we have to go with him.

Can't happen? I'm 98% with you on that. However, if this was the same time of the year in 2016 and I said, "Draft Dak! His rookie year is going to be so awesome that the Cowboys will keep Romo on the bench even after he comes back from an injury!", I would probably be banned as a security precaution. And yet.....
 

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Playing devil's advocate, okay?

Please no insults and no references to my intelligence or lack thereof.....Nah, never mind!...Asking for mercy is just pouring gasoline on a fire.

Three times in the past 11 seasons the starting QB went down early in the season and it was all over, crash and burn. It would have been four seasons but a fourth round draft choice miraculously had one of the best rookie seasons in history, who expected that?

The Cowboys rolled out a slew of backups, mostly average quarterbacks when they were in their prime. Sometimes they were on one year contracts meaning that, even if they had a good showing, they were gone the following season.

Why not kill two birds with one stone? Draft a top tier QB, if the starter goes down, the rookie gets experience. He could be a legitimate starter the following season in which case the Cowboys trade one of them. Furthermore, when a player gets paid they seem to have the tendency to play soft that season. A legitimate talent backing him up could put a little fire to Dak's backside.

The rookie salary cap allows the Cowboys to draft a QB in the top ten, I think.

You could draft a productive non-QB player in the top ten but what difference would that make if Dak is injured again or if he performs poorly? Look at the value of good young quarterbacks these days. If the Cowboys cultivate a young QB while he serves as a quality backup, the Cowboys could end up with a trade reaping great value for their future.

Look at the history of the Cowboys successful seasons. Where there not two legitimate starters?....Lebaron/Meredith...Staubach/Morton....Staubach/White....Even Roger Staubach once revealed that a reason for his success was how hard he competed with Danny White, knowing how good his competition was. Jimmy Johnson drafted two QB's #1 overall in his first season, giving up the #1 overall pick in 1990 for taking Steve Walsh in the supplemental draft. Jimmy valued competition.

Ok....let 'er rip!
:lmao::lmao::lmao:There is no argument! :lmao2::lmao2::lmao2:
 

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So here's the thing about QBs. They get picked way up high at the top of the draft not because they really rank out that way (although obviously some do), but because teams are universally so desperate for starting QBs that they have to overdraft them or they won't get them at all. Five QBs may go in the first ten picks not because they are five of the top ten talents, but because of the nature of the position.

If you're sitting at ten and not in need of a starting QB, you should do a straight ranking of the talent on the board; you shouldn't be bumping QBs up the way teams that need them do. Using top-tier draft capital to pick the 5th best QB in a class, and expecting him to be able to step in as a rookie and provide high-level play if your starter goes down, does not seem like a great strategy. If you want to get the trade value out of a young QB, get the value during the draft itself in a trade down; let other teams take the risk that he's a bust, rather than have him sit on the bench for a year or two and then try to trade him.
I absolutely get that. Then again, if they had a redo on the 2016 draft, where would they put Dak? Was he overvalued?

If a QB drops down to 10 then his inflated value has become somewhat deflated, wouldn't you agree?
 

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I would never question someone’s intelligence, but that’s the most idiotic, stupid, dumb, bird brained, absurd, asinine, crackpot, crazy, nutty, silly, hair brained, foolish, and wacky idea I have ever heard. :D
I have an even worse one:

Now that we've drafted a QB #1 overall, let's take another QB in the 1st round of the supplemental draft, even though it looks as though that pick will cost us a top 5 overall in next year's draft.

That "idiotic, stupid, dumb, bird brained, absurd, asinine, crackpot, crazy, nutty, silly, hair brained, foolish, and wacky" idea contributed to three Super Bowls for the Cowboys in the 90's.
 

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But let me ask again....if the Cowboys are up and a QB remains with Surtain and Pitts gone and the phones ringing off the wall, what does Jerry do?
 

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But let me ask again....if the Cowboys are up and a QB remains with Surtain and Pitts gone and the phones ringing off the wall, what does Jerry do?

Get the QB, the most important position on a team...let him wait for Dak to get injured, hopefully not. It might seem like a slight to Dak, but he's already got his big ol bag of cash and the competition is good for the mind, Dak will either get better or worse.
 

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If Dak lost the starting job, I'm sure he would consent to a trade.
 

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I love QBs that can stop the run on defense....

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What about Zeke haters, or Gregory haters..
We should have sub forums for all conversations.
Dak just received an NFL record new contract. He is not going anywhere anytime soon. To start a thread wishing Dak be traded is beyond ignorant. It's intentionally trolling. Let's get real now.
 

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Not handing out a high dollar contract and using the first round draft pick on the same position. Would have been OK with letting Dak go and using #1 pick on QB but not both.
 

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Playing devil's advocate, okay?

Please no insults and no references to my intelligence or lack thereof.....Nah, never mind!...Asking for mercy is just pouring gasoline on a fire.

Three times in the past 11 seasons the starting QB went down early in the season and it was all over, crash and burn. It would have been four seasons but a fourth round draft choice miraculously had one of the best rookie seasons in history, who expected that?

The Cowboys rolled out a slew of backups, mostly average quarterbacks when they were in their prime. Sometimes they were on one year contracts meaning that, even if they had a good showing, they were gone the following season.

Why not kill two birds with one stone? Draft a top tier QB, if the starter goes down, the rookie gets experience. He could be a legitimate starter the following season in which case the Cowboys trade one of them. Furthermore, when a player gets paid they seem to have the tendency to play soft that season. A legitimate talent backing him up could put a little fire to Dak's backside.

The rookie salary cap allows the Cowboys to draft a QB in the top ten, I think.

You could draft a productive non-QB player in the top ten but what difference would that make if Dak is injured again or if he performs poorly? Look at the value of good young quarterbacks these days. If the Cowboys cultivate a young QB while he serves as a quality backup, the Cowboys could end up with a trade reaping great value for their future.

Look at the history of the Cowboys successful seasons. Where there not two legitimate starters?....Lebaron/Meredith...Staubach/Morton....Staubach/White....Even Roger Staubach once revealed that a reason for his success was how hard he competed with Danny White, knowing how good his competition was. Jimmy Johnson drafted two QB's #1 overall in his first season, giving up the #1 overall pick in 1990 for taking Steve Walsh in the supplemental draft. Jimmy valued competition.

Ok....let 'er rip!
Given that we just signed Dak to a multi-year mega deal, if we find ourselves in a position to draft a truely franchise worthy QB I would rather we trade down to a QB hungry team and get a stock pile of premium picks.
 

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Playing devil's advocate, okay?

Please no insults and no references to my intelligence or lack thereof.....Nah, never mind!...Asking for mercy is just pouring gasoline on a fire.

Three times in the past 11 seasons the starting QB went down early in the season and it was all over, crash and burn. It would have been four seasons but a fourth round draft choice miraculously had one of the best rookie seasons in history, who expected that?

The Cowboys rolled out a slew of backups, mostly average quarterbacks when they were in their prime. Sometimes they were on one year contracts meaning that, even if they had a good showing, they were gone the following season.

Why not kill two birds with one stone? Draft a top tier QB, if the starter goes down, the rookie gets experience. He could be a legitimate starter the following season in which case the Cowboys trade one of them. Furthermore, when a player gets paid they seem to have the tendency to play soft that season. A legitimate talent backing him up could put a little fire to Dak's backside.

The rookie salary cap allows the Cowboys to draft a QB in the top ten, I think.

You could draft a productive non-QB player in the top ten but what difference would that make if Dak is injured again or if he performs poorly? Look at the value of good young quarterbacks these days. If the Cowboys cultivate a young QB while he serves as a quality backup, the Cowboys could end up with a trade reaping great value for their future.

Look at the history of the Cowboys successful seasons. Where there not two legitimate starters?....Lebaron/Meredith...Staubach/Morton....Staubach/White....Even Roger Staubach once revealed that a reason for his success was how hard he competed with Danny White, knowing how good his competition was. Jimmy Johnson drafted two QB's #1 overall in his first season, giving up the #1 overall pick in 1990 for taking Steve Walsh in the supplemental draft. Jimmy valued competition.

Ok....let 'er rip!
Great Post:hammer:
This makes a lot of sense!

If one of the top 4 QBs drops to 10th then IF the trade down is not possible then Cowboys have to take the QB draftee IF he has the highest draft grade. The QB value can hedge our bet for injury which is a 100%

Dak won't be the least bothered by the rookie. We've witnessed Dak's professional character as Romo's backup and pursuing an extension through injury.
 
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