Why Micah Parsons is different

beware_d-ware · Apr 11, 2021

Lack of experience in coverage is a good way to put it. Parsons rarely got used in anything but short zones and blitzes on passing downs, so in terms of his ability to handle difficult man or deep-zone calls, we just haven't seen it. But he was very capable in the assignments he was given, and has the all-world athleticism to handle more.

Devin White wasn't a great cover backer at LSU, and didn't recognize run plays as fast as Parsons does. But he got drafted top 5 anyway on a combo of outlier athleticism and attitude hitting, and Parsons is better than he was coming out. He's not getting the love he deserves IMO, partially because he has some very concerning off the field incidents, but mostly because he sat out for a season and we forgot how damn good he was.

cnuball21 · Apr 11, 2021

CalPolyTechnique said:
Parsons reading the underneath route and breaking on it for the pass breakup (have we every actually seen Jaylon do that?)

Here's Parson's showing instincts and anticipation breaking on a shallow slant for another pass breakup.

Again, this is a guy that came out of high school playing DE. He's two years into the position switch and is already displaying the awareness of a more seasoned/experienced linebacker. People fall into the trap of think whatever a prospect shows in college is the player he will continue to be, as if they magically stop evolving the second their name is called on draft day. Parsons will continue to develop as a player; his ceiling and floor IMO are high (character concerns notwithstanding).

But haven't you heard?...he can't cover

beware_d-ware said:
Lack of experience in coverage is a good way to put it. Parsons rarely got used in anything but short zones and blitzes on passing downs, so in terms of his ability to handle difficult man or deep-zone calls, we just haven't seen it. But he was very capable in the assignments he was given, and has the all-world athleticism to handle more.

Devin White wasn't a great cover backer at LSU, and didn't recognize run plays as fast as Parsons does. But he got drafted top 5 anyway on a combo of outlier athleticism and attitude hitting, and Parsons is better than he was coming out. He's not getting the love he deserves IMO, partially because he has some very concerning off the field incidents, but mostly because he sat out for a season and we forgot how damn good he was.

Agreed, it also doesn’t help that Covid hit.

He’s a special dude IMO.

DC Cowboy · Apr 11, 2021

Bowdown27 said:
I’d be very happy him making it to us but I doubt he makes it past Broncos

i would agree and get best available CB with 2nd pick

HungryLion · Apr 11, 2021

CalPolyTechnique said:
Parsons reading the underneath route and breaking on it for the pass breakup (have we every actually seen Jaylon do that?)

Here's Parson's showing instincts and anticipation breaking on a shallow slant for another pass breakup.

Again, this is a guy that came out of high school playing DE. He's two years into the position switch and is already displaying the awareness of a more seasoned/experienced linebacker. People fall into the trap of think whatever a prospect shows in college is the player he will continue to be, as if they magically stop evolving the second their name is called on draft day. Parsons will continue to develop as a player; his ceiling and floor IMO are high (character concerns notwithstanding).

Nailed it.

Parsons is just still kind of raw. He has played great for a guy with 2 years experience at the position.

He has the athleticism to be just fine in coverage. And has covered well at times.

I mean people need to watch the guy play. Look at him run and move. People are telling me he can’t continue to develop his ability to stick with a TE or RB? Or drop back into a zone and break on a pass?

I mean come on.

Plus. He used to be a DE and has elite athleticism. If I was his DC. I would be blitzing him often on passing plays also.

kskboys · Apr 11, 2021

Cowboyny said:
It not just about his speed, it's his spacing and route recognizition,

"Isn't asked to drop into coverage much, but shows comfort and ease of movement when doing so, generating excellent depth on his drops and bounding out of his breaks while keeping track of the ball."

The negative talk about Parsons' coverage ability is grossly overblown.

JBond · Apr 11, 2021

I want Parsons. Fight me! Lol.

We need some speed and a kid that sheds blocks well. Jaylon gets stoned at the line way too many times. Good DB's will be there in the 3rd.

DanA · Apr 11, 2021

JBond said:
I want Parsons. Fight me! Lol.

We need some speed and a kid that sheds blocks well. Jaylon gets stoned at the line way too many times. Good DB's will be there in the 3rd.

I think CB's might dry up late 2nd round but safety could stretch to the 3rd even though there aren't a hell of a lot of them. But if we didn't have a CB after pick 44 I think I'd be looking to trade up and get one rather than sit a 77.

AsthmaField · Apr 12, 2021

kskboys said:
"Isn't asked to drop into coverage much, but shows comfort and ease of movement when doing so, generating excellent depth on his drops and bounding out of his breaks while keeping track of the ball."

The negative talk about Parsons' coverage ability is grossly overblown.

Yeah, I really think it is. Almost like a groupthink that has become accepted as fact. Like Surtain being Slow and unathletic.

Those are gross exaggerations.

It’s kind of weird.

Cowboyny · Apr 12, 2021

kskboys said:
"Isn't asked to drop into coverage much, but shows comfort and ease of movement when doing so, generating excellent depth on his drops and bounding out of his breaks while keeping track of the ball."

The negative talk about Parsons' coverage ability is grossly overblown.

Several insiders have said the same thing, it's more of a projection as they have seen him much in coverage.

kskboys · Apr 12, 2021

Cowboyny said:
Several insiders have said the same thing, it's more of a projection as they have seen him much in coverage.

Having to learn coverage and being bad at it are two entirely different subject matters.

Parsons is a freak. His floor is a competent LB. Almost zero bust potential.

cnuball21 · Apr 12, 2021

kskboys said:
"Isn't asked to drop into coverage much, but shows comfort and ease of movement when doing so, generating excellent depth on his drops and bounding out of his breaks while keeping track of the ball."

The negative talk about Parsons' coverage ability is grossly overblown.

100%...

kskboys · Apr 12, 2021

AsthmaField said:
Yeah, I really think it is. Almost like a groupthink that has become accepted as fact. Like Surtain being Slow and unathletic.

Those are gross exaggerations.

It’s kind of weird.

Especially when it comes to the draft. For some odd reason, even the experts fall for it. Mo would be the obvious case. The guy simply did not possess the skillset to be as highly regarded as he became. But, it appears as if some experts started saying it, and the idea spread like wildfire that he was the next Deion Sanders, even though there was no evidence that it was even close to being the case. And in the end, he played almost exactly as his skillset said he would. He was OK, w/ limitations that were never going to go away. I'm still befuddled as to how the scouts all ignored those limitations. The only thing that really stood out w/ him was his high INT numbers, and stats are one of the poorest ways to evaluate prospects.

kskboys · Apr 12, 2021

beware_d-ware said:
Lack of experience in coverage is a good way to put it. Parsons rarely got used in anything but short zones and blitzes on passing downs, so in terms of his ability to handle difficult man or deep-zone calls, we just haven't seen it. But he was very capable in the assignments he was given, and has the all-world athleticism to handle more.

Devin White wasn't a great cover backer at LSU, and didn't recognize run plays as fast as Parsons does. But he got drafted top 5 anyway on a combo of outlier athleticism and attitude hitting, and Parsons is better than he was coming out. He's not getting the love he deserves IMO, partially because he has some very concerning off the field incidents, but mostly because he sat out for a season and we forgot how damn good he was.

He is an absolute steal at 10, and he'd improve our team more than any other player in this draft not named Trevor Lawrence.

Shake_Tiller · Apr 12, 2021

I have a feeling the team that drafts Parsons -- maybe Dallas -- will maximize opportunities to use him as a pass rusher, though any LB must be competent in coverage. I could imagine he might even get some snaps at LEO in that type of 4-3. But I mainly see him blitzing from the inside. We shall see.

Cowboyny · Apr 12, 2021

kskboys said:
Having to learn coverage and being bad at it are two entirely different subject matters.

Parsons is a freak. His floor is a competent LB. Almost zero bust potential.

I highly disagree there is zero bust potential. He is an upside pick and far from a finished prospect. He should of played last season due to his lack of experience at the position.

Mr_437 · Apr 12, 2021

Sounds like y'all want Parsons now. Defense or OT is cool over here.

Bowdown27 · Apr 12, 2021

Shake_Tiller said:
I have a feeling the team that drafts Parsons -- maybe Dallas -- will maximize opportunities to use him as a pass rusher, though any LB must be competent in coverage. I could imagine he might even get some snaps at LEO in that type of 4-3. But I mainly see him blitzing from the inside. We shall see.

I agree. He can be something else if a team uses him correctly. I hope it’s not the giants or eagles.

HungryLion · Apr 12, 2021

Dane Brugler and Bucky Brooks like Parsons
And would be fine with him at 10.
I agree with them.

CalPolyTechnique · Apr 12, 2021

DakPresgoat said:
Dane Brugler and Bucky Brooks like Parsons
And would be fine with him at 10.
I agree with them.

I think I would be too.

It is interesting though that we didn’t hear about any Cowboys FO/scouting personnel at the Penn State Pro Day.

CATCH17 · Apr 12, 2021

DakPresgoat said:
Nailed it.

Parsons is just still kind of raw. He has played great for a guy with 2 years experience at the position.

He has the athleticism to be just fine in coverage. And has covered well at times.

I mean people need to watch the guy play. Look at him run and move. People are telling me he can’t continue to develop his ability to stick with a TE or RB? Or drop back into a zone and break on a pass?

I mean come on.

Plus. He used to be a DE and has elite athleticism. If I was his DC. I would be blitzing him often on passing plays also.

A lot of corners have the athleticism to cover and can’t do it.

If you spend a 1 on this guy and he can’t cover you just got ripped off.. It’s not 1995.

The NFL spreads out defenses and finds their weakness. If you have a linebacker on the field that can’t cover they will find that guy and expose that guy.

So drafting Parsons is a huge risk.. It could pan out but if he can’t cover then that should get a GM fired because that GM will have assumed he can cover based on athleticism and no proof of the skill.

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