Offensive team malfunction

JoeKing · Apr 12, 2021

The team just needs to get its starters back on the field. It's hard to check all the checkmarks a good offense is supposed to do when you don't have your best guys on the field. The OP ignores this.

Point-of-the-Star · Apr 12, 2021

dsturgeon said:
He would help them be consistent, maybe unstopable.

Just imagine how good zeke and pollard would be with Pitts on the field, and the oline healthy

Just for the record no offense is unstoppable. With our defense though that was much more true.

I'm going to keep hammering this fact. Offense sells tickets and defense win championships. The latest example being TB's championship run this year. No team is perfect. If our OL is OK then this team's offense is good enough. The D is light years away from good enough.

SteveTheCowboy · Apr 12, 2021

dsturgeon said:
Still weeks away from the draft. Going to be a long time for you

And he'll be angry the whole time.

SteveTheCowboy · Apr 12, 2021

JoeKing said:
The team just needs to get its starters back on the field. It's hard to check all the checkmarks a good offense is supposed to do when you don't have your best guys on the field. The OP ignores this.

But but ...zeke.

Vtwin · Apr 12, 2021

The 2013 defense was the worst in team history, until last year.

The 2014 team had a great season, with essentially the same defense. The offense controlled the game, and protected the defense.

The 2016 team won the same way.

Since then, the offense has far too often, hung the defense out to dry. Stinking up the joint, early on, and forcing a weak defense to cover up for the very expensive, offense.

In the end though, the best case scenario for this team, as constructed, is the same as it was in 2014 and 2016. Very nice regular season and an early out against the playoff teams.

Vtwin · Apr 12, 2021

The 2013 defense was the worst in team history, until last year.

The 2014 team had a great season, with essentially the same defense. The offense controlled the game, and protected the defense.

The 2016 team won the same way.

Since then, the offense has far too often, hung the defense out to dry. Stinking up the joint, early on, and forcing a weak defense to cover up for the very expensive, offense.

In the end though, the best case scenario for this team, as constructed, is the same as it was in 2014 and 2016. Very nice regular season and an early out against the playoff teams.

CowboysFaninHouston · Apr 12, 2021

Vtwin said:
The 2013 defense was the worst in team history, until last year.

The 2014 team had a great season, with essentially the same defense. The offense controlled the game, and protected the defense.

The 2016 team won the same way.

Since then, the offense has far too often, hung the defense out to dry. Stinking up the joint, early on, and forcing a weak defense to cover up for the very expensive, offense.

In the end though, the best case scenario for this team, as constructed, is the same as it was in 2014 and 2016. Very nice regular season and an early out against the playoff teams.

so the defense giving up 300 yards rushing is the offense hanging them to dry. ooookkkk then

charron · Apr 12, 2021

This is a power running team without the power. Want double digit wins? Get back to dominating the run game. The less our defense is on the field the better.

CATCH17 · Apr 12, 2021

charron said:
This is a power running team without the power. Want double digit wins? Get back to dominating the run game. The less our defense is on the field the better.

100%

The more Dak throws the worse this team gets.

ondaedg · Apr 12, 2021

CowboysFaninHouston said:
so the defense giving up 300 yards rushing is the offense hanging them to dry. ooookkkk then

The logic is confusing isn't it? Offense has to be perfect and defense has to put 11 guys on the field.

:huh:

Mr_437 · Apr 12, 2021

Let 1 starting OT go down with an injury and the folds like a trapper keeper. Last year, they were generous fumbling all over the field weekly at the beginning. Offense was to blame also even with Dak.

Nothing has changed, but ppl trying to talk themselves into the defense being ok because they want to draft a TE.

Redball Express · Apr 12, 2021

Hawkeye19 said:
The D is atrocious and the glaring, alarm-raising, panic-inducing unit that gets all the hate and attention. Deservedly so.

But the OP raises a good point. That the offense has plenty of flaws that need to be fixed as well:

1. Slow starts
2. Inconsistent performance
3. Too many turnovers
4. Underachieving production from key players
5. Playing from behind nearly every week
6. Poor execution vs teams with winning records
7. Questionable play-calling/coaching

Add it up, and we have a LOT of problems to address— and yet the biggest problem remains the FO and the culture of entitlement, arrogance, and incompetence that permeates the franchise.

This has all happened before. After we won our 3rd SB in the 90s..we had enormous problems with entitlement and just thinking we were superior to any team we faced. A few injuries nd retirements started the downward spiral. We are going thru it again. It happens to all teams..they peak they win based on reputation and slowly it changes until house gets cleaned out.

Patience is our biggest need from top to bottom of the organization to its most minor fan. Stop comparing every twist and turn to teams in the past. That is dead and gone. Can we do that? Good question huh?

Jake · Apr 15, 2021

Vtwin said:
The 2013 defense was the worst in team history, until last year.

The 2014 team had a great season, with essentially the same defense. The offense controlled the game, and protected the defense.

The 2016 team won the same way.

Both teams lost in the divisional round to the Packers, who scored 60 points in those games. Dallas scored 52 points and lost both games.

The last time Dallas held an opponent under 20 in a playoff game was in 2010 when they beat the Eagles. Since then the Cowboys are 2-4 in playoff games. Opponents have averaged 31 points in those playoff losses.

The Dallas Cowboys have NEVER won a playoff game when the opponent scores 30+, yet we're constantly looking at trying to win in spite of the defense. That hasn't worked and it won't work.

foofighters · Apr 15, 2021

dsturgeon said:
The cowboys do need to improve the defense with the scheme and players, but the reason they fail is on the offense.

If you are an offensive based team

1. You need to play the majority of games with a lead
2. Put up points all 4 quarters
3. Win the field position battle

-The cowboys have rarely played with a lead the last few years. They make comebacks in the 2nd half.
-Dak has a problem putting points up in the first half of games and going into the half with a lead.
- Although special teams did improve last year, the cowboys do not do well with field position.

These 3 things should be happening on an offensive based team, and would improve the defense

Complaining about the gm, coaching, and the lack of drafting defensive players does have merit, but if you are built for offense, you have to dominate at these things.

With the way the team is built, this is why the cowboys fail in my opinion. Injuries hurt them too.

I think the roster is built well.

Didn't the Romo years also involve low scoring in the first half and then Romo pulling off miracles at the end of the game?

dsturgeon · Apr 15, 2021

foofighters said:
Didn't the Romo years also involve low scoring in the first half and then Romo pulling off miracles at the end of the game?

My original post was just looking at how the team is currently built, and why i think they are failing

They have a top WR core, RB core, Oline, top QB, and a bad defense.

If that is the makeup of the team, you need to be consistent and dominate in all 4 quarters, drive the field so that you don't give the opposing offense the ball on your side of the field, go into half with a lead, and do better on time of possession.

If they do these things, it will change the play style of the game, and make the defense better. Improving on defense is good too, but with the makeup of the team, this is how they win.

Dak and the offense need to come out of the gate scoring all 4 quarters, and let the defense play with a lead.

foofighters · Apr 15, 2021

dsturgeon said:
My original post was just looking at how the team is currently built, and why i think they are failing

They have a top WR core, RB core, Oline, top QB, and a bad defense.

If that is the makeup of the team, you need to be consistent and dominate in all 4 quarters, drive the field so that you don't give the opposing offense the ball on your side of the field, go into half with a lead, and do better on time of possession.

If they do these things, it will change the play style of the game, and make the defense better. Improving on defense is good too, but with the makeup of the team, this is how they win.

Dak and the offense need to come out of the gate scoring all 4 quarters, and let the defense play with a lead.

My point is that this thinking is flawed since we've been doing it forever with little to no success. We need a GM and to build a defense. This offensive scoring machine isn't working for us. Good coaching can exploit our weakness and Garrett wasn't a game time coach and MM is making me nervous too.

dsturgeon · Apr 15, 2021

foofighters said:
My point is that this thinking is flawed since we've been doing it forever with little to no success. We need a GM and to build a defense. This offensive scoring machine isn't working for us. Good coaching can exploit our weakness and Garrett wasn't a game time coach and MM is making me nervous too.

Ok, if you draft and build a defense over the next 2-3 years, you will have to pay them. Then your dominant offensive positions will not be able to be paid. and you will have a subpar offense with what is hopefully a dominant defense, and the balance shifts.

Having an average defense and an average offense, will not win anything.

The cowboys currently have a dominant offense, they need to keep that, and hit on cheap free agents and draft picks on defense. (and the offense helps the defense to look better)

They put the money into dak, and I dont think dak with subpar weapons, and a good defense wins.

jnday · Apr 15, 2021

dsturgeon said:
The cowboys do need to improve the defense with the scheme and players, but the reason they fail is on the offense.

If you are an offensive based team

1. You need to play the majority of games with a lead
2. Put up points all 4 quarters
3. Win the field position battle

-The cowboys have rarely played with a lead the last few years. They make comebacks in the 2nd half.
-Dak has a problem putting points up in the first half of games and going into the half with a lead.
- Although special teams did improve last year, the cowboys do not do well with field position.

These 3 things should be happening on an offensive based team, and would improve the defense

Complaining about the gm, coaching, and the lack of drafting defensive players does have merit, but if you are built for offense, you have to dominate at these things.

With the way the team is built, this is why the cowboys fail in my opinion. Injuries hurt them too.

I think the roster is built well.

You bring up a good point, but the point has been brought up numerous times and the Dak-lovers refuse to acknowledge Dak’s problems with putting together any kind of positive offense in the first half. The game is usually out of reach by the time Dak starts to play. Even then, it is questionable if Dak is trying to lead a comeback or if the opposing defense has let up and are just sitting on a big lead. I think the reality will set in soon when the offense is still ineffective, even with a $40 million QB playing. It seems like reality of all of these late game comebacks that always fall short would open some eyes that they are not comebacks at all, but are just the result of defenses letting up.

jnday · Apr 15, 2021

Vinnie2u said:
Subconscious Pitts thread alert!!

Drafting a great talent like Pitts would allow the release of some of the offensive cap hits .

Captain-Crash · Apr 15, 2021

I think that was Dak's strategy. Get behind really far and put up some stats for the contract. Winning doesn't matter to him.

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