News: Mickey: How about drafting the best defensive dude

Whyjerry said:

You are so right. Mickey’s real problem is he is a nasty old guy.

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A common meme, constantly going around the echo chamber of the CZ but I’ve yet to see anyone actually post anything that comes near rising to the level of “nasty” or “miserable human being” as has been said here

He’s difficult to work with? Sheesh, get in line with a half dozen people at my job and yours and most other folks. Being difficult to work with or having “short man syndrome”, hardly rises to the level of hate Mickey gets

I’m not a fan but I’m not a detractor either. He’s just another person with an opinion.

Kwyn said:

A common meme, constantly going around the echo chamber of the CZ but I’ve yet to see anyone actually post anything that comes near rising to the level of “nasty” or “miserable human being” as has been said here

He’s difficult to work with? Sheesh, get in line with a half dozen people at my job and yours and most other folks. Being difficult to work with or having “short man syndrome”, hardly rises to the level of hate Mickey gets

I’m not a fan but I’m not a detractor either. He’s just another person with an opinion.

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You listen to the podcasts? For years he has been rude, dismissive, arrogant, and condescending to callers. The guy is a jerk. Get off your high horse.

Whyjerry said:

You listen to the podcasts? For years he has been rude, dismissive, arrogant, and condescending to callers. The guy is a jerk. Get off your high horse.

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So he is kind of like some or many posters on here then?

What was that Mickey? Better take Jerrys wang out of your mouth before you talk.

I am of the mindset of 11 picks would be a waste if you use all 11 on players. I would not mind getting 4-5 upper tier prospects in the first 3-4 rounds and then picking development or highly rated players rounds 5-7. It hinges on trade partners but use some of the lower round picks to move up.

jazzcat22 said:

So he is kind of like some or many posters on here then?

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True but this is posting not talking to people. Certainly not in the “expert” position he is in relative to fans. It’s not the same at all. Mickey is paid to be an “expert” on the team. You should be respectful to the fans.

That said I know there are posters here that hate me. They are of course wrong but they do. I could not care less.

jrumann59 said:

I am of the mindset of 11 picks would be a waste if you use all 11 on players. I would not mind getting 4-5 upper tier prospects in the first 3-4 rounds and then picking development or highly rated players rounds 5-7. It hinges on trade partners but use some of the lower round picks to move up.

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Yes trade up and get quality, as this year quantity is not in the mix. Actually we have 10 picks, not 11. But still, only half will make the roster, the rest will be PS players. Which is nothing wrong with that, if that is the way the draft falls. And can't work the trades.

We have holes to fill, but need quality to get a few starters, and 3 or 4 future starters. We do not have 10 holes to fill.

As to trading down, IMO it will come down to who is available at #10. We can all say that this person will not fall or that person but none of us have a clue as to what SF or Atlanta are going to do first. The chips will start to fall in place then. Any of us can make a case for who we believe will fall and we all can take them apart. Here is what I see which undoubtedly will be different from others. I see the 5 QBs going in the top nine, just to much talk about all of them to not believe teams like Denver, Chicago, WFT, NE, and even Pittsburgh will to go up and get one of them especially if Atlanta shocks everyone and takes a QB instead of trading down.

IMO, Burrows wants Chase, his college WR and believe Cincy will go that way. Same goes for Miami and Smith with Tua being fall more comfortable with Smith than taking Pitts at 6. Detroit could go a number of ways including trading down. Pitts makes sense there but they have a great TE already but have no WR, definitely a dilemma. Carolina could trade down and IMO I would not be the least surprised to see them trade with the LAC to Sewell who protected Herbert in college and would most likely highly overpay to get him. Then Denver is a team that could definitely take the last QB on the board if there or go a number of directions. Slater would make sense so would Parsons from need standpoints but they could easily trade down also and with Philly needs defense and having extra picks, I could see Philly trading up 3 spots and taking Surtain which probably would cause more hatred of Philly in Dallas.

Then Dallas, with possibly Pitts and Horn and Slater and Parsons on the board, you can bet everyone is going to say Pitts but I'm not so sure. What if a team like say the Jets or Jaguars offer their other 1st round pick (23 for Jets, 25 for Jags) plus their 2nd (33 for Jags, 34 for Jets) plus a couple of high picks for the right to take Pitts. Would Dallas even think about it? What would be possible at 23 or 25? Good chance Farley would still be there or Barmore or Moehrig or Phillips. Would they really pass on Pitts?

Pitts appears to be a generational guy but just how many times is he going to touch the ball in a game, 5 maybe 6 or 7. Could be a difference maker but he would have to be. Trading down makes the most sense in that situation IMO. Farley was consider either the top CB or tied for the top with Horn and Surtain before the back surgery but he has been completely cleared. So I would be for the possibility of Farley and possibly getting Barmore at 33 or 34 along with say Jabrill Cox LB at 44 before taking Pitts. Those three should make the defense at least middle of the league or better with giving the offense the ball more often. JMO and one of many ways things could happen on the 29th.

jazzcat22 said:

Yes trade up and get quality, as this year quantity is not in the mix. Actually we have 10 picks, not 11. But still, only half will make the roster, the rest will be PS players. Which is nothing wrong with that, if that is the way the draft falls. And can't work the trades.

We have holes to fill, but need quality to get a few starters, and 3 or 4 future starters. We do not have 10 holes to fill.

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throw in the fact the team is pretty good with UDFA also. Going 10 players in the draft and the slew of UDFA they will most likely sign you will be lucky like you said if more than 5 really make the team and the rest maybe getting put on the PS.

Parson has to be on any short list at 10
A stud player worthy of the 10 pick

conner01 said:

Parson has to be on any short list at 10
A stud player worthy of the 10 pick

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See. You get it.

Mickey was on the blitz raving about him

Bowdown27 said:

See. You get it.

Mickey was on the blitz raving about him

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I love the player
I don’t think both parson and surtain will be there though anything is possible
Surtain really improves the secondary
Parson allows you to move on from jaylon next year or not using 5th year option on LVE
I think he’s better suited for mike than either of them
My 10 wish list is parson or surtain
My only problem would be if both were there and that would be a great problem to have
But if both were there I’d probably go Parson because not only is he a great prospect but allows to options with LVE and Jaylon

jazzcat22 said:

https://www.dallascowboys.com/news/spagnola-how-about-drafting-best-defensive-dude

Mickey's latest, on drafting the BPA on defense and not gearing it toward a CB.
Makes some good points on 3 different LB's. And that depth in the 1st 2 rounds at CB & LB gives the Cowboys some options.

However I think they could trade down from 10 an still grab one of the 3 LB's, as well as CB's.

Nothing rah rah here for you haters to whine about, just some good info.

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With Daks new deal eating into our cap going forward..I would maneuver to Draft and sign as many bodies as I could and get them playing to start winning. Unless we start winning b/w the lines..drafts and FA will not help us. We need wins now.the FO has clearly shown what is ahead.

Someone has probably mentioned it, but not going with CB because there are decent CBs in later rounds is how you get a Taco Charlton. Just draft the BPA for a spot in need. Don't over think it.

conner01 said:

I love the player
I don’t think both parson and surtain will be there though anything is possible
Surtain really improves the secondary
Parson allows you to move on from jaylon next year or not using 5th year option on LVE
I think he’s better suited for mike than either of them
My 10 wish list is parson or surtain
My only problem would be if both were there and that would be a great problem to have
But if both were there I’d probably go Parson because not only is he a great prospect but allows to options with LVE and Jaylon

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I agree totally. I understand our secondary isn’t good but if you can snag parsons then hop up to get Asante Samuel or Farley you’re winning this draft imo.

tunahelper said:

If Parsons is legit I would select him at 10. Now I like Surtain, however MLB with extreme range and instincts are rare. With talent available in th he 2nd round at CB this draft is shaping up to be a tough call.

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I hope Parsons is legit. I have never liked the ideal of using early first round picks in CBs. It takes a CB with some of the characteristics of Deion to make him worth a top ten pick IMO. Those CBS are few and far between. I have not really researched Parsons, but I have concerns about him being a little too much like Jaylon in some areas of his game from reading some of the scouting reports. I have also read that he is not on the same level as the other LBs that have been early to middle of the first round picks from previous years. As I said, I don’t honestly know, but I wish Dallas could draft an elite LB with the tenth pick. They certainly need a top LB to anchor the defense. I would like to know what Cowboy scouts think about him.

KingintheNorth said:

Ahhhh Mickey, he's been banished from most of the podcasts, which is a really good thing.

Now he's part of the tour package to "talk X's and O's with Mickey Spagnolia" as if there are human beings that exist that think Mickey Spagnolia can speak elaborately about football strategies?

Can't wait til he's no longer associated with this organization. Awful at his job and an even worse human being.

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Im with you on arrogant [ for no reason] Micky. What a dick

TequilaCowboy said:

I am all for drafting only the best defensive players this year. Ignore the offense, they paid Dak franchise money, and so he needs to perform like a franchise QB with what he has now. Which is not chopped liver. Focus on only defense this year and make it a top 10. If anything, 2021 is the year to bring the D back to Dallas.

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It is doubtful that drafting a defensive player with the 10th pick is going to offer much value. This is not a good draft for defensive players and they can use every pick on the defense this draft without seeing much improvement from the picks that was used. This draft is not going to have much of an impact on the 2021 defense anyway. Even elite defensive rookies struggle to have an impact during their rookie year and there is not elite defensive talent in this draft from all indications. This draft could provide a couple solid defensive starters if Jerry can find them. It really stinks for fans that want to build a great defense from this draft. On a positive note, the defense will probably really stink this season and Dallas could find themselves with a top ten pick next year. Hopefully, next years draft will have better defensive players.

Lol nobody give two pieces of crap about Mickey. Who listens to this clown? He's already been ousted from seemingly every podcast and isn't even invited to talk on the Fan because Broaddus and the guys can't stand him.

Pretty telling when all of Mickey's colleagues appear frequently all over Dallas Cowboys media and then there's this loser alone in the corner attempting to convince himself and others that he can talk authoritatively about football. I fantasize about a day where I won't have to hear his and Bayless's name ever again.

BoysfanfromCanada said:

Someone has probably mentioned it, but not going with CB because there are decent CBs in later rounds is how you get a Taco Charlton. Just draft the BPA for a spot in need. Don't over think it.

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That's backwards. Taco was BPA for a spot in need.