Dolphins looking to trade up from 18th into top 10. Should Cowboys answer?

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2021 NFL Draft Rumors: Dolphins looking to trade up for second top-ten pick?

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The Miami Dolphins have already been busy in the 2021 NFL Draft, trading out of the third position, back to the 12th spot, then back up to the sixth-overall pick. Rumors over the past few days have the Dolphins considering another trade, with the common though that Miami could trade back to add additional picks either this year or in 2022. Now, however, there is some speculation that Miami could be looking to trade up, but not from the sixth spot, but rather from their second first-round pick, the 18th-overall selection.

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Dolphins currently own the (1st round) 6th, 18th and (2nd round) 50th overall picks (in RED) within the first 2 rounds.

The Cowboys own the (1st round) 10th and (2nd round) 44th overall picks (in GREEN) within the first 2 rounds.

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If the Cowboys and Dolphins agreed to make a trade:

Dolphins move up from the 18th pick and get the Cowboys 10th overall pick, the Cowboys would move down 8 spots and get the Dolphins 18th overall pick while also getting the Dolphins 50th overall pick. Those 2 picks (18th & 50th) would equal the trade value (700 points difference) to trade away the 10th overall pick to the Dolphins. That would move the Cowboys down 8 spots in the 1st round, but it would also give the Cowboys another mid-2nd round pick, thus giving them 2 picks in every round (2nd, 3rd & 4th rounds) while still having a pick in the teens in the 1st round (Cowboys have snatched up great players in the teens spot in the 1st round in the past).

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Would you rather stay put and only have 1 pick to use in each first 2 rounds, or would you make the trade down while still getting a 1st round pick in the teens while grabbing an extra mid-2nd round pick, thus securing 2 picks in each round (2nd, 3rd & 4th rounds)?


Lots of holes to fill on this team, especially Defense.

What say you? Should the Cowboys trade down a few picks in the 1st round while gaining an extra mid-2nd round pick or stay pat?

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plymkr

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I say yes, the more defensive players the better. The more picks the better. If we can come out of this draft with 4-5 quality starters on defense then we are going to drastically improve. There's better chances of getting quality starters in rounds 1,2, and 3. Having a collection of 5 draft picks in the first 3 rounds gives us a better chance. I'd be happy with 7 picks in 4 rounds. 7 picks in 4 rounds ups our chances of grabbing 3 good players.

I say go for it.
 

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If I’m going down 8 spots in rd 1 I’m losing out in most players with a rd 1 grade

if they’re coming up 8 spots it is for a premium player

therefore I’ll want a rd 2 and rd 3 pick in addition to 18. They have a lot of picks

but yes, I’d love to do it
 

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I say yes, the more defensive players the better. The more picks the better. If we can come out of this draft with 4-5 quality starters on defense then we are going to drastically improve. There's better chances of getting quality starters in rounds 1,2, and 3. Having a collection of 5 draft picks in the first 3 rounds gives us a better chance. I'd be happy with 7 picks in 4 rounds. 7 picks in 4 rounds ups our chances of grabbing 3 good players.

I say go for it.

I'm totally with you (in principle). Ive written this response without reading the thread and I can predict the number of "game-changer with no 10 pick" comments.

You're right, our defense is such a mess we need quantity as well as quality and if we can get a similar player at 18 that we could at 10, then an addition no. 50 pick is just gravy.

But I would hold out for 18, 50 and something from 2022.
 
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This is one of those occasions where I’d like Miami to get a higher pick before we make a deal for 10. If they could get 12-14 that’s the trade down I’d feel comfortable with.
 

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If Surtain, Pitts, Sewell are all off the board come time we go on the clock then I’d probably do it.
Otherwise no, I want one of those three likely probowlers
 

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What about Dallas 10, 44 for Miami's 18, 36 and 50?

Didnt realize they still had no. 36. Yep that with do: 18, 36 and 50 will do. lol

But seriously, if they want to trade up, presumably to get Sewell/Slater at 6 and then a WR at 10, they'll have to pay, especially as Giants (11) and Eagles (12) will possibly take Smith/Waddle/Bateman before Miami get to pick at 18.

We may have to give something back to Miami later on, but we'd potentially be in a strong trading position.

This is the whole basis of trading back....there just isnt the value at 10 for players we need (outside of poss Surtain/Horn).
 

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I say NO. Most of the "bluechippers" are at the top of the draft. We have 10 picks. use the extra 3rd and 4th picks and your 2nd to move up to the bottom of the 1st round to get a 2nd player with a 5th year option. We don't have a recent history of "coaching" up later round draft picks anyway.
 

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I want #10, not the leftovers.

OK, you go pick your BPA at 10 and end up with a QB or WR.

If you want to compete in the next couple of seasons then we're going to have to obtain multiple upgrades on defense, we are a lot of players away from getting this defense to be a middling unit.

If you're one player away you go for that one player , but we need players in certain positions where additional picks in rounds 2 /3/4 could well improve the team over what we've got.
 

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No. Zip, zero, nada.
They want 2 top ten picks because they want quality. They get silver dollars and we get a pocket full of pennies.
Thanks but no thanks. I want that #10 pick.

Now, think about this, though.... Do you trust the Cowboys scouting department? The ones who picked Diggs, Gallimore in rounds 2 and 3 last year. Wouldn't you want them to get another shot at players in those round 2 and round 3 talent levels?

At 18, Dallas could get Farley, or JOK, or Newsome, each tremendous picks. I'd go with filling the CB spot there, with such a talent drop after that.

Then they could also use the ammo to trade up to the top of the second to get one of the 2 best remaining linebackers, Collins or Bolton. LB Talent dropoff after that is a sheer cliff!

Then, with the other pick in the 2nd, address safety position with Richie Grant, or if we got JOK, take the DT with Marvin Wilson, then hope for ArDarius Washington later in round 3.

All in all, some really good players in the 2nd round, and some left in the 3rd as well. It's a good good thing to trust the Cowboys scouting department. ESPECIALLY in a year where the combine was not centrally located. Lots of inflated times out there without standardization, so your scouts work is all the more important. Jerry needs to be at the yacht again.
 
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